Post-match: Southampton Home

The Neviller said:
You. You just said it was going to cost them the title.
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If nothing is done about it then yes. But its my hope and assumption that they will do something about it.

If they have to play their remaining matches on that ploughed field then they will drop points and it will cost them the league.
It's up to United (and some better weather maybe) to avoid that.
 
For the first time ever I'm going to agree with RAWK... how the feck did such a poor performance get us 3 points?

Sometimes you have to call it what it is and that second half especially was a disgrace to the expectations of the club. Southampton put us under a little bit of pressure when we had the ball and our cultured response was to either hoof it up the pitch straight back to them or we ran into a dead end and got tackled.

The manager will probably end the bollocking around midnight and I hope he gives it to the lot of them in fecking spades.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Spot on.
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Not spot on at all.

What do you expect from the matchday thread? Emotions are running high at the time, and people make some irrational comments, of course, there will always be those who take it to the extreme, but so what?

Nothing like RAWK at all.
 
Worst performance of the season for me... hands down. It was an incredibly lazy performance from us.

A win is a win though.
 
I'm not condoning that second half performance..bit reading this thread really feels like we lost the game! Thank goodness we didn't..otherwise the Caf would have gone into meltdown!!
 
FortBoyard said:
Although I do find the criticisms a little silly, it's not like we are going to play that poorly every game, it just happens sometimes and we got three points still.

It's like some people think that we are going to now perform like that forever, just accept it was a bad day at the office and move on!
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This happened against Bilbao.....TWICE! but yep, bad day at the office. Thank goodness we won though.
 
The Neviller said:
It's not all the matters, but it's the most important thing. Performance always comes secondary to results. Always.
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Of course it is, but you can't always say "three points is all that matters", because it's not.
 
Liverpool, Spurs, City, Arsenal and Chelsea all dropped points. So very crucial three points really.
 
Amar__ said:
No, I am not, but three points aren't ALL that matters.



So you are happy with us parking the bus in second half and defending like we are playing against Barcelona?
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I'm happy with 3 points and a 7 point lead over the top.I'm convinced City would have taken a shit performance with a win.....like I said get the feck over it and move on.

We play Fulham next and we'll play better cos they will try and redress that embarrassing defeat.If we play great football but lose what will you post then? "Ah well we played some great stuff, that's all that matters"....:rolleyes:
 
Platato said:
This happened against Bilbao.....TWICE! but yep, bad day at the office. Thank goodness we won though.
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Who the feck cared for that tournament.

We played some shit games in the beginning of this season but we have improved. Anyway, there are every year the type of the game who looks 'secure win games' but we have a lot of difficulties.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
I'm happy with 3 points and a 7 point lead over the top.I'm convinced City would have taken a shit performance with a win.....like I said get the feck over it and move on.

We play Fulham next and we'll play better cos they will try and redress that embarrassing defeat.If we play great football but lose what will you post then? "Ah well we played some great stuff, that's all that matters"....:rolleyes:
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Southampton can take some encouragement from their own performance despite their loss. THink about it that way. Of course it's not all that matters but they're not mutually exclusive either. Until an issue is rectified, it will continue to be exploited. Thankfully we didnt drop points today but we were pretty close.

So no, it's all that matters but it definitely plays a part. Especially throughout the course of a season.
 
One of the worst halves I can remember.

I have a bad memory though.
 
Bit of a strange one, but was anyone else disappointed with Van Persie?

We've been a bit spoilt in recent years with strikers that contribute energy and effort too (yes, except Berbs) but tonight I thought RVP really needed to do more for the team. Whether it's actually contesting aerial duels, closing down their defenders or running the channels....he just felt a bit static.

Obviously the quality is there but I'm worried he's looking a bit less energetic already.
 
Revan said:
Who the feck cared for that tournament.

We played some shit games in the beginning of this season but we have improved. Anyway, there are every year the type of the game who looks 'secure win games' but we have a lot of difficulties.
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This one was pretty bad mate. No need to gloss over it. Or do you not want to admit we have an issue here. My main point is when we are put under pressure, we have trouble dealing with it.

If you don't fix these issues, you will get found against the better teams not so?
 
Platato said:
This one was pretty bad mate. No need to gloss over it. Or do you not want to admit we have an issue here. My main point is when we are put under pressure, we have trouble dealing with it.

If you don't fix these issues, you will get found against the better teams not so?
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I see what you are saying, but we have had the same problems all season. Care to remind me of our results against the "better teams"?
 
Platato said:
This one was pretty bad mate. No need to gloss over it. Or do you not want to admit we have an issue here. My main point is when we are put under pressure, we have trouble dealing with it.

If you don't fix these issues, you will get found against the better teams not so?
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Well we haven't so far.
 
Platato said:
This one was pretty bad mate. No need to gloss over it. Or do you not want to admit we have an issue here. My main point is when we are put under pressure, we have trouble dealing with it.

If you don't fix these issues, you will get found against the better teams not so?
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Yeah, the second half was embarrassing, no doubt about it (as bad as the first half vs Spurs and Liverpool in the beginning of the season). But I don't think that it is that much for concern because it's not that we are playing every week that bad (unlike in the first half of the season when we were playing consistently bad).
 
Platato said:
This one was pretty bad mate. No need to gloss over it. Or do you not want to admit we have an issue here. My main point is when we are put under pressure, we have trouble dealing with it.

If you don't fix these issues, you will get found against the better teams not so?
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Don't disagree with that. If we play like that against real, well...I reckon we will have embarrassing score line against us. However, we do seem to up our game tremdendously against good opposition
 
Phil said:
One of the worst halves I can remember.

I have a bad memory though.
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Almost as bad as vs Birmingham 1 Jan 2008 at OT. United win with 1-0 after a Tevez goal but Carrick's performance that game is the worst I have seen from a United player ever. Then we went on to win PL and CL:D
 
Redlambs said:
I see what you are saying, but we have had the same problems all season. Care to remind me of our results against the "better teams"?
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Win, Win, Win, Draw. However today was the worst display in terms of dealing with pressure so do those previous results really count? I'm not talking about the past, but the future.

Again this problem was most pronounced today. It's even more confusing based on the players we had out there.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
I'm happy with 3 points and a 7 point lead over the top.I'm convinced City would have taken a shit performance with a win.....like I said get the feck over it and move on.

We play Fulham next and we'll play better cos they will try and redress that embarrassing defeat.If we play great football but lose what will you post then? "Ah well we played some great stuff, that's all that matters"....:rolleyes:
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I never said performance is all that matters, what are you on about?

Redlambs said:
Isn't that what he said in the post you quoted?

You seem angry. Go look at the league table and smile my friend, we were shit but shit that won.
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I agreed with him, but also added that performance matters too, where did he said that?

I am not angry, where do I look angry. Maybe bit dissapointed though.
 
I will say what I said in the other thread, because it's United, I expect we will buck it up against Real. I have never really had much of an issue with our performances in the big games this season. Overall, they've been good. However there seems to be an underlying problem when we face a team which is not so good. It's like we were surprised Southampton were putting us under pressure.

It's hard for me to say that was a bad day at the office. We were fine in the first half. In the second, we just lost it somehow
 
Platato said:
Win, Win, Win, Draw. However today was the worst display in terms of dealing with pressure so do those previous results really count? I'm not talking about the past, but the future.

Again this problem was most pronounced today. It's even more confusing based on the players we had out there.
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We don't know the future, we only know the past.

We have played like today for most of the season, granted not as bad as tonight, but with the same glaring problems. So that suggests we play better against the better teams and as such surely the correct theory would be we will do better against the better teams we face in the future?


We better had ;)
 
Amar__ said:
I agreed with him, but also added that performance matters too, where did he said that?
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You used quotes to suggest he said what you quoted. That's where the confusion is.


I am not angry, where do I look angry. Maybe bit dissapointed though.
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Must just be your posting style.


But yes, we were very disappointing, I agree.
 
Redlambs said:
You used quotes to suggest he said what you quoted. That's where the confusion is.




Must just be your posting style.


But yes, we were very disappointing, I agree.
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Okay then. :p
 
Robbie Boy said:
Not spot on at all.

What do you expect from the matchday thread? Emotions are running high at the time, and people make some irrational comments, of course, there will always be those who take it to the extreme, but so what?

Nothing like RAWK at all.
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Of course people are going to be tense whilst the game is going on and will make stupid posts which are extreme, but its been happening more this season than i have seen before on this site.

We were abysmal tonight in the 2nd half, so its to be expected that fans would be unhappy with the performance and would moan about the performance. But its just the people who criticize virtually every single thing that Redlamb mentioned in his post that annoy him and others such as myself.

This season i have seen extreme posts such as user/s calling Fergie senile, calling for Giggs and Scholes to retire and having a go at them when they played poor and were made scapegoats at times, calling for Fergie to retire, etc. Looking at some of these kind of posts, you would be shocked to realize we are 7 points clear at the top of the table.

In my opinion, this site at times can be as bad as RAWk with all the negativity.
 
Castia said:
Why do we always drop so deep and invite the pressure towards the end of games? its so annoying to see Rooney and Welbeck camped in our own box looking to hoof it clear, its happening in the majority of games these days.
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Well said. To answer your question is quite simple, tactically we are struggling and most of all we consistently have players playing out of position. We do lack some physicality jn the midfield too which means we are often bullied in games.

A win is a win but will that show see fergie dip into the Market tomorrow?
 
yamo123x said:
Well said. To answer your question is quite simple, tactically we are struggling and most of all we consistently have players playing out of position. We do lack some physicality jn the midfield too which means we are often bullied in games.

A win is a win but will that show see fergie dip into the Market tomorrow?
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No
 
Redlambs said:
We don't know the future, we only know the past.

We have played like today for most of the season, granted not as bad as tonight, but with the same glaring problems. So that suggests we play better against the better teams and as such surely the correct theory would be we will do better against the better teams we face in the future?


We better had ;)
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Potentially. As I said in the other thread, I'm sure we'll play better. However, if Real apply a lot of pressure, I doubt we will come through it well. It doesn't matter who we have played, we have not done well when put under pressure. This is what Madrid like to do. Hence my concern.
 
SER19 said:
it wasnt a disgrace and with any luck we'll look back on it as another step and another game chalked off in a bigger picture. but is anyone else worried that it was so similar to many performances from last season, we got away with so many but they caught up with us in the end and we just imploded in the big one against city.

playing well and winning well is the key to the title,to build momentum at this time of year is invaluable. it wont happen if the team as a whole doubts itself as they seemed to tonight.
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Yep. The fragile self-confidence implicit in the performance is worrying.
 
I just got home, and I never, ever want to think about that football match ever again.
 
Jesus that was an awful backpass.
 
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