Both could be available for transfers at roughly the same price at the summer. Both would be a risk imo, but a risk I'd be willing to take. Cisse is slightly younger. So given the choice, who would you sign ?
POLL: Ronaldo or Cisse ?
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Cisse. Ronny is 25 and will always be an injury worry, irrespective of whether or not he regains his form. 4 years is a long time to be out of the loop.
True. Considering Cisse is younger and would cost 6/7m less, I would say Cisse too.
Take Ronaldo on loan for next season, then make the decision on which players is worth 20-30m next summer.
Ronaldo because he has a proven track record and is more experienced. I think Cisse is suited to a club like Liverpool or Arsenal.
Originally posted by Gazza:
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The way he plays, it suits teams like Liverpool and Arsenal IMO. I think he also stated that he would love to play for Liverpool so that is another factor that would persuade him to join them. I have seen him on Eurosport and I admit he scores some wonderful goals but I just have a feeling that he won't join us.
Originally posted by $ukhjit:
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The way he plays, it suits teams like Liverpool and Arsenal IMO. I think he also stated that he would love to play for Liverpool so that is another factor that would persuade him to join them. I have seen him on Eurosport and I admit he scores some wonderful goals but I just have a feeling that he won't join us.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But Arsenal and Liverpool have completely different styles of play.
Yes Gazza without a doubt. Cisse!!! He will be perfect alongside RVN. He is the ideal forward to match RVN's style of play. He is another Henry in the making.
Ronaldo is far better than him. Has he ever played for France on national level? I believe he is overated. Only World Cup will tell the full story.
I beleive the 7million pond rated Aghahowa is far better than him in all aspects of
the game. If the Arse get him we should be worried more than the Scouse getting Cisse!
I beleive the 7million pond rated Aghahowa is far better than him in all aspects of
the game. If the Arse get him we should be worried more than the Scouse getting Cisse!
Cisse (and his ilk) was made for this club. Great service from all angles, direct attacking football. With his pace he'd destroy teams. Its like Henry for Arsenal, he gives them another option and is devastating at times.
But Ronaldo is up there with the greatest strikers Brazil have ever had, and Brazil are probably the greatest footballing nation in the world. No matter how much younger Cisse is - he is no genius, just a great player ala Henry. No matter how many left wingers we'll see, we'll never see George Best again. Thats why I'd choose Ronaldo.
But it all depends on how the world cup goes.
But Ronaldo is up there with the greatest strikers Brazil have ever had, and Brazil are probably the greatest footballing nation in the world. No matter how much younger Cisse is - he is no genius, just a great player ala Henry. No matter how many left wingers we'll see, we'll never see George Best again. Thats why I'd choose Ronaldo.
But it all depends on how the world cup goes.
..thats why i like the idea of getting him on loan.. if he gets injured, then we'll send him back..however, if he proves to be the player he was before the injuries, then we'll have a great player in our team...
imagine...a fit Ronaldo and RVN spearheading our attack..
i'd love it, just love it!!!!
imagine...a fit Ronaldo and RVN spearheading our attack..
i'd love it, just love it!!!!
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>Ronaldo is far better than him. Has he ever played for France on national level? I believe he is overated. Only World Cup will tell the full story.
I beleive the 7million pond rated Aghahowa is far better than him in all aspects of
the game. If the Arse get him we should be worried more than the Scouse getting Cisse!
The only thing thats overrated is your ability to judge players. So who does HJ Butt play for again.
Originally posted by Raoul:
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The only thing thats overrated is your ability to judge players. So who does HJ Butt play for again.
Did he NOT know that's Bayer's GK??
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Ronaldo, he has electic pase and a proving record on the big stage, it will interesting to see how Cisse gets on next in the Champions league, but I would Ronaldo.
Forget about Cisse, you's won't be getting him.
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>Ronaldo is far better than him. Has he ever played for France on national level? I believe he is overated. Only World Cup will tell the full story.
I beleive the 7million pond rated Aghahowa is far better than him in all aspects of
the game. If the Arse get him we should be worried more than the Scouse getting Cisse!
Yes Aghahowa is a great player but he is rated at 16 million dollars.Cisse is not overrated and it is hard to put Henry or Trezeguet on the bench when you play for a club in France.
A fit Ronaldo is a phenomenon of football. He truly was a genius. If he is truly fit then he has to be the man. Cisse is younger - but even at his age - Ronaldo was head and shoulders above every other player on the planet. Rivaldo, Figo and Zidane were all in the shadow of him. We forget how good he truly was.
If a loan deal could be struck it has to be a "win - win" situation. Imagine the headaches it will pose for other teams. It would truly bring UTD to another plane. The creative choices are endless with Ronaldo, Beckham, Giggs, Veron playing. Not only that, it would inspire the others.
If a loan deal could be struck it has to be a "win - win" situation. Imagine the headaches it will pose for other teams. It would truly bring UTD to another plane. The creative choices are endless with Ronaldo, Beckham, Giggs, Veron playing. Not only that, it would inspire the others.
cisse , younger. this stuff about "proven" is bunk. if all MU went after was "proven" there would be - no becks , butt, or anyone else "unproven" from youth sides. youth will be served , at MU or at another club.
yep mu77 is right. But Ronaldo isnt just proven, he is genius.
its quite sad really, everyone has forgotten.
Cisse is labelled by some as the new Ronaldo at 20.
When Ronaldo was that age (21) people were saying Denilson was the new Ronaldo. He's held in the same regard as Maradona, EVERY new Brazilian striking talent is billed as the new Ronaldo. Even Shevchenko was billed the 'white-ronaldo'. You just dont get up there without being good. And at that age its just phenomenal.
its quite sad really, everyone has forgotten.
Cisse is labelled by some as the new Ronaldo at 20.
When Ronaldo was that age (21) people were saying Denilson was the new Ronaldo. He's held in the same regard as Maradona, EVERY new Brazilian striking talent is billed as the new Ronaldo. Even Shevchenko was billed the 'white-ronaldo'. You just dont get up there without being good. And at that age its just phenomenal.
I wonder how many people on here have actually seen Cisse play a full match, rather than just watching goals highlights.
People talk about Ronaldo like hes near 30. Hes not, he's 25 and was the best player in the world at the age of 21!
If Ronaldo was fit, Zidane would not be running away with the world player of the year awards so easily.
At the same time if Ronaldo was truly fit beyond doubt there is no way anyone would be considering letting him leave Inter, without 60 million quid going in the other direction.
The fact that people still arent sure about his fitness is our best chance of getting him in a red top at a discount price.
IMHO when he's on a pitch he's the best player in the world, so IF we do get the chance we should take it. Cisse at the minute is not even 75% of the player Ronaldo was, so its Ronaldo for me.
If you need convincing, get out the tapes and watch him in the last world cup before he broke down pre-final.
People talk about Ronaldo like hes near 30. Hes not, he's 25 and was the best player in the world at the age of 21!
If Ronaldo was fit, Zidane would not be running away with the world player of the year awards so easily.
At the same time if Ronaldo was truly fit beyond doubt there is no way anyone would be considering letting him leave Inter, without 60 million quid going in the other direction.
The fact that people still arent sure about his fitness is our best chance of getting him in a red top at a discount price.
IMHO when he's on a pitch he's the best player in the world, so IF we do get the chance we should take it. Cisse at the minute is not even 75% of the player Ronaldo was, so its Ronaldo for me.
If you need convincing, get out the tapes and watch him in the last world cup before he broke down pre-final.
Originally posted by Floyd:
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Did he NOT know that's Bayer's GK??
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Said he played for Dortmund.
sorry i didn't mean to make it sound like ron had no talent. and yes he's a great player who is the same age as rvn and pk from barca and has the game MU needs to break out of the 0-1 matchs lost this season (at home ).
but i've seen cisse play about 10 matchs starting at the u-21 champs last yr (mexes was there too). saw him score some wonder goals. i don't really care if he can tackle or cross , he can score from alot of differant points on the field ie. outside the 18. he's faster then any striker on MU's side now , he also just broke into a pretty good side in a team called FRANCE - hello , TH , DT , SW up top and him. nuff said.
).but i've seen cisse play about 10 matchs starting at the u-21 champs last yr (mexes was there too). saw him score some wonder goals. i don't really care if he can tackle or cross , he can score from alot of differant points on the field ie. outside the 18. he's faster then any striker on MU's side now , he also just broke into a pretty good
side in a team called FRANCE - hello , TH , DT , SW up top and him. nuff said.Originally posted by mu77:
<strong>sorry i didn't mean to make it sound like ron had no talent. and yes he's a great player who is the same age as rvn and pk from barca and has the game MU needs to break out of the 0-1 matchs lost this season (at home
but i've seen cisse play about 10 matchs starting at the u-21 champs last yr (mexes was there too). saw him score some wonder goals. i don't really care if he can tackle or cross , he can score from alot of differant points on the field ie. outside the 18. he's faster then any striker on MU's side now , he also just broke into a pretty good
If Ronaldo had been fully fit in the final of 98 its debatable whether France would be champions right now. I dont do France a disservice for they are a fantastic team, i just rate a fit Ronny that highly. When hes fit NO-ONE in the world can touch him as a player.
Originally posted by paulb:
<strong>Forget about Cisse, you's won't be getting him.
You won't either as you won't have any money left after getting that massive, 55k seater stadium. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
not sure that ron could have turned that match as the defence of brazil broke down in the end. and at this time ron's about 75% of what ron was. yikes that was a confusing
. but i think that if ronaldo's healthy and with the terms being that of a loan w/option on transfer , grab him by all means.
but i'd take cisse.
. but i think that if ronaldo's healthy and with the terms being that of a loan w/option on transfer , grab him by all means.but i'd take cisse.
Ronaldo now and Cisse later
good one tomo, cisse has stated that he'll stay another season but.......
Ronaldo any day of the week, cisse will never even come close to him, Ronlado's shit up the opposing teams to man marking him with two players factor alone make the decision easy for me.
check out the following site (http://digilander.iol.it/Ronaldinho9/) and see his skills/goals u will be converted too.
if we even have half a chance of him recovering we should buy him now on the cheap.
check out the following site (http://digilander.iol.it/Ronaldinho9/) and see his skills/goals u will be converted too.
if we even have half a chance of him recovering we should buy him now on the cheap.
If there is any chance at all of getting Ronaldo on loan then we should bloody well jump on it!
Ronaldo, injuries or not, is potentially the best footballer since Maradona and Van Basten and he's someone who can win tournaments on his own.
United is exactly the high-profile club he needs in order to put his career back on track and Ronaldo is exactly the high-profile player we need in order to mount a great challenge in the league and in Europe next season, though one does wonder how the very physical PL will affect him.
It's a risk worth taking tho, as Ronaldo at full flow is just something else.
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With players like Ole, Seba, Nicky, etc also in contention that's a bloody good team.
Ronaldo, injuries or not, is potentially the best footballer since Maradona and Van Basten and he's someone who can win tournaments on his own.
United is exactly the high-profile club he needs in order to put his career back on track and Ronaldo is exactly the high-profile player we need in order to mount a great challenge in the league and in Europe next season, though one does wonder how the very physical PL will affect him.
It's a risk worth taking tho, as Ronaldo at full flow is just something else.
Barthez-Micky-Thuram-Blanc-Gaz-Keano-Scholesy-Beckham-Giggsy-Ronaldo-Ruud
With players like Ole, Seba, Nicky, etc also in contention that's a bloody good team.
This Ronaldo thing is pure fantasy - cop on.
Many seem to prefer Ronaldo, though the Premiership is a hard league, possible the most demanding Ronaldo will have faced in his career, and it may be too soon after his injury. That said, Ruud came back after a career-threatening injury and look what he's done. Next question: what would become of Solskjaer ?
He would fight for his place like every other player should do.
RVN and Ronaldo wont be playing every game anyway.
Man that just sounds scary when you say it together, RVN and Ronaldo.
RVN and Ronaldo wont be playing every game anyway.
Man that just sounds scary when you say it together, RVN and Ronaldo.
Ronaldo would do what Veron was unable to do, which is to unlock defences. Bring him on. As for this Cisse guy, I never saw him play, however, Forlan was scoring wonderfull goals as well 'til he came here...
Originally posted by Nistelrooy10:
<strong>Ronaldo would do what Veron was unable to do, which is to unlock defences. Bring him on. As for this Cisse guy, I never saw him play, however, Forlan was scoring wonderfull goals as well 'til he came here...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I knew we couldn't go a whole thread without mentioning Seba.
1. Diego will come through next year.
2. People tend to think of Ronaldo as the player he once was and will never be again - his name, his reputation, the hype. It's all in the past. Cisse is the complete package who is better today than Thierry Henry was when he saw limited action at France 98.
2. People tend to think of Ronaldo as the player he once was and will never be again - his name, his reputation, the hype. It's all in the past. Cisse is the complete package who is better today than Thierry Henry was when he saw limited action at France 98.