Pogba's social media post was a scheduled event - Neville and .Rossi take note!

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Neville doesn't think Mourinho failed.

His opinion is worthless as far as I'm concerned if he thinks that.

Neville, like all of the CO92 brigade, absolutely despise Woodward. You can bet your bottom dollar that, privately, Neville does believe Mourinho has been a monumental failure (look at how far we’ve regressed, ffs!) but he won’t say it because a) he loves to tow this holier-than-thou ‘Back the manager’ claptrap, despite all evidence suggesting the manager has been backed enough and it’s time to go, and b) he’s pointedly sticking the knife into Woodward/Glazers by suggesting the manager has been undermined by the higher-ups at the club (hell, even undermined by players too judging by his meltdown today involving Pogba).

Neville, unfortunately, is incredibly transparent in his motivations and opinions these days. It’s beyond tiresome at this stage.
 
Fecking Neville. Give it a rest lad you ain't the authority on everything.
 
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Any word from Gary on McTominay’s instagram like or Shaw’s Twitter like?

Just a problem with Pogba it seems. It’s fecking odd.
 
Incredible that someone with his experience thinks social media/Marketing doesn't exist. Does he just not care or is he so badly out of touch with how seriously modern football clubs take social media now?
 
Shreeves - “Would you want a role at the club?”

Neville says no. He’s not fit for purpose. So why are you throwing shite about like it’s fact.
 
The state of people in here ranting about Neville.

He speaks more sense than anyone, yet you shoot him down and excuse the clown that is Pogba, claiming it was a coincidence. Sure pigs were seen flying over Old Trafford this morning too!
 
Shreeves - “Would you want a role at the club?”

Neville says no. He’s not fit for purpose. So why are you throwing shite about like it’s fact.

I think he's burnt his bridges long ago anyway. Which is actually great. I was worried nepotism might land him a position at the club, thankfully I can't see that ever being the case now.
 
What posts did those two like?

Can’t find the McTominay one at the moment, I’ll try and have a look again.



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Or did G Nev spit his dummy out when Rio posted this when Moyes got binned?

 
Whole interview is a car crash against logic and reality.

About as interesting as a random bloke down the pub.
 
Why do folks engage those people that firmly wanted Mourinho to continue to torture us ? And Gary Neville, really? why is his opinion relevant? Is clear as day he is just someone who talks alot and puts little though into his utterances.
Save your breath and wait to see where we go from here. Pogba was never a reason why Mourinho is gone.
 
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He's only saying all that rubbish for the attention...right? ...Right?
 
Save your breath and wait to see where we go from here. Pogba was never a reason why Mourinho is gone.

Yep. Neville's right there are bigger problems at the club than solely the manager but Mourinho was a dark cloud at the club. Only an idiot would have said he should stay on.
 
Neville, like all of the CO92 brigade, absolutely despise Woodward. You can bet your bottom dollar that, privately, Neville does believe Mourinho has been a monumental failure (look at how far we’ve regressed, ffs!) but he won’t say it because a) he loves to tow this holier-than-thou ‘Back the manager’ claptrap, despite all evidence suggesting the manager has been backed enough and it’s time to go, and b) he’s pointedly sticking the knife into Woodward/Glazers by suggesting the manager has been undermined by the higher-ups at the club (hell, even undermined by players too judging by his meltdown today involving Pogba).

Neville, unfortunately, is incredibly transparent in his motivations and opinions these days. It’s beyond tiresome at this stage.

He's from a different era, where the word of the Manager was law, and you just shut the feck up and did your job.

Things have changed, and I think clearly for the worse, but, whatever I may think on the subject, or whatever Neville might, times HAVE changed, and things are not going to roll back. Athletes now have to be handled with kids gloves, because like it or not, the athletes ultimately have all the power. Either collectively, as in enough to sabotage results, or individually with superstars.

A 33 year old SAF walking into this team, right now, would get fired within a couple of seasons. Why? He practically wrote the book on hard nosed, no-nonsense managing. Pogba would throw a fit the first time SAF told him to do something he didn't want to do, and boom, he would start losing the team, and then what? Management is left with firing the manager, or firing half of the team.

The truth is, the culture of Manchester United is compromised by the players, and enabled by upper management. Maybe Mourinho wasn't the right fit, I have no problem with failure, when the reasons for the failure are understood, when the players give it their all day in and day out, and live and die by the managers call. That isn't what happened was it? If Mourinho failed and had that support, that's an honest failure, and we can go about honestly appraising what the issue really is, and how to address it. That isn't what happened though, that isn't what has happened for 3 consecutive managers now. The team has been a combination of a) Not good enough and b) rebelling against the Manager. So what is the real issue? Do we know? Is it upper management not being willing to dump the problem players? Is it spoiled players? Is it terrible managers? Is it players half assing it?

I don't know, neither does anyone else but maybe some insiders.

At the end of the day, however, no matter how much I think the older school mentality that was still around in the 90's is the better way to do it, that way is gone and teams need to grapple with this change. United was sheltered from this, because of SAF. SAF was able to do it old school right up until he retired, because he was beyond reproach. He was an institution and even though the culture around United had changed, United was inside a SAF bubble that his career had created.

Now we're living in the real world, where the inmates run the asylum, and you need to find that balance between managerial authority and respect for that authority, and not pushing the players too far that they go on de-facto strike.
 
The state of people in here ranting about Neville.

He speaks more sense than anyone, yet you shoot him down and excuse the clown that is Pogba, claiming it was a coincidence. Sure pigs were seen flying over Old Trafford this morning too!
Carrick took training this morning so I'm bit confused how could Pogba put out tweet during training? Adidas have come out with statement confirming it was scheduled so is he questioning the integrity of global organization? The post was then quickly removed once it could be seen as disrespectful to Mourinho. Why is it a big deal then?
 
fecking hell! 20 pages over an adidas promotion that Pogba most likely had no fecking input about when it would be released.

I have never known a single player who played for our club to get the shit that Pogba has, Not even Di Maria when we knew he didn't want to come here.
 
He's from a different era, where the word of the Manager was law, and you just shut the feck up and did your job.

Things have changed, and I think clearly for the worse, but, whatever I may think on the subject, or whatever Neville might, times HAVE changed, and things are not going to roll back. Athletes now have to be handled with kids gloves, because like it or not, the athletes ultimately have all the power. Either collectively, as in enough to sabotage results, or individually with superstars.

A 33 year old SAF walking into this team, right now, would get fired within a couple of seasons. Why? He practically wrote the book on hard nosed, no-nonsense managing. Pogba would throw a fit the first time SAF told him to do something he didn't want to do, and boom, he would start losing the team, and then what? Management is left with firing the manager, or firing half of the team.

The truth is, the culture of Manchester United is compromised by the players, and enabled by upper management. Maybe Mourinho wasn't the right fit, I have no problem with failure, when the reasons for the failure are understood, when the players give it their all day in and day out, and live and die by the managers call. That isn't what happened was it? If Mourinho failed and had that support, that's an honest failure, and we can go about honestly appraising what the issue really is, and how to address it. That isn't what happened though, that isn't what has happened for 3 consecutive managers now. The team has been a combination of a) Not good enough and b) rebelling against the Manager. So what is the real issue? Do we know? Is it upper management not being willing to dump the problem players? Is it spoiled players? Is it terrible managers? Is it players half assing it?

I don't know, neither does anyone else but maybe some insiders.

At the end of the day, however, no matter how much I think the older school mentality that was still around in the 90's is the better way to do it, that way is gone and teams need to grapple with this change. United was sheltered from this, because of SAF. SAF was able to do it old school right up until he retired, because he was beyond reproach. He was an institution and even though the culture around United had changed, United was inside a SAF bubble that his career had created.

Now we're living in the real world, where the inmates run the asylum, and you need to find that balance between managerial authority and respect for that authority, and not pushing the players too far that they go on de-facto strike.

And yet other clubs still manage to win trophies...

Man City have the biggest group of mercenaries on the planet and they broke 4 or 5 league records last season...

How does that fit into your narrative?
 
I like Neville, but cant stand his dialect. His deliver of words is so fecking school teacher, it drives me mad.
 
Bloody hell Gary Neville - he messed up with your "Do one" tweet and now so trying to keep the discussion going so he doesn't look like an even bigger idiot.
 
And yet other clubs still manage to win trophies...

Man City have the biggest group of mercenaries on the planet and they broke 4 or 5 league records last season...

How does that fit into your narrative?

It fits my narrative completely. We're in the real world that City, and Liverpool, and Chelsea and all these other clubs have been living in and dealing with and adapting to since this shift happened. We haven't. We had SAF where nobody dared pull this Pogba type shit because it was SAF. The respect SAF's career had earned, meant that United did not have to deal with these inter personnel issues where the manager has to treat the players with kids gloves. Now SAF is gone, and guess what? Nobody else in the sport has that kind of respect. Not even Mourinho, who over the last 15 years has been undoubtedly the most successful manager in the game.

So yes, it matches this "narrative" perfectly. Thank you for expanding the explanation, by giving evidence to support it.
 
It fits my narrative completely. We're in the real world that City, and Liverpool, and Chelsea and all these other clubs have been living in and dealing with and adapting to since this shift happened. We haven't. We had SAF where nobody dared pull this Pogba type shit because it was SAF. The respect SAF's career had earned, meant that United did not have to deal with these inter personnel issues where the manager has to treat the players with kids gloves. Now SAF is gone, and guess what? Nobody else in the sport has that kind of respect. Not even Mourinho, who over the last 15 years has been undoubtedly the most successful manager in the game.

So yes, it matches this "narrative" perfectly. Thank you for expanding the explanation, by giving evidence to support it.

Touche. (I'm tired)
 
Touche. (I'm tired)

Haha, I just think, these other clubs have institutionally figured out how to navigate these waters. We haven't. It's a learning process. I think there are also systemic problems with the club atm, but we can say those are part of the learning curve of figuring out how to survive in this post "shut up and do what I say" sporting world.
 
Has his insight ever had any weight?
Last season Neville called Arsenal fans 'idiots' when they were calling Wenger to be sacked now he's completely changed the tone and praise Emery every week.

He sounds like someone who just loves masturbating to his voice
 
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The state of people in here ranting about Neville.

He speaks more sense than anyone, yet you shoot him down and excuse the clown that is Pogba, claiming it was a coincidence. Sure pigs were seen flying over Old Trafford this morning too!

Completely agree. Cant lie, was delighted when we resigned him, there is no doubting he has a lot of talent and when he made his debut second tie around alongside Ibrahimovic I was excited, he was superb.....but for me, he is too inconsistant, he is really sloppy at times, his world cup performances were over rated, his career has been over rated. The whole time he has been with us and the 20 or so Juventus games I have seen I could probably count on my fingers the number of games he has been superb, Fergie was right about is agent....unlike Beckham the media circus off field isnt worth the bother.

If we could get £100m for him and I was the next United manager I would take it in a heartbeat. YOu could sign the likes of Ndombele AND Ascacibar and have lots of change from that fee. A talented individual is at the end of the day just that
 
He really hasn't got a clue how big companies use social media.
 
Yeah yeah yeah scheduled tweet blah blah blah. What a coincidence. Nobody should be taken in by this.
 
does he take no blame for anything. scheduled event my arse

:lol: Get a grip, Gary.

About social media and all that, what did you make of Jose embarrassing Pogba in front of his team mates and then going straight to press with line for line quotes?

@Ranchero Just seeing your post, perhaps you have some thoughts?
 
Neville's really been having a mare today with the meltdown ever since Jose got sacked,he can be such an overdramatic and sensationalist cnut sometimes. I don't doubt the love he has for the club but he's been misguided more often than not in the hills he's chosen to die on ever since Fergie retired.

He's backed 3 failed regimes right until the end and has used every excuse in the book and has used any and everyone at the club as scapegoats for their failed tenures. He's been as off the mark in his punditry as he was with his tactics at Valencia.

When rival players and legends begin speaking more sense regarding the club than him it's time to tone it down a notch...
 
Do people genuinely believe coincidences don't happen? It's not even much of a coincidence. It's a tweet that literally has Adidas football tagged in. One man was struck by lightning twice. Weirder things happen every day.
 
:lol: Get a grip, Gary.

About social media and all that, what did you make of Jose embarrassing Pogba in front of his team mates and then going straight to press with line for line quotes?

@Ranchero Just seeing your post, perhaps you have some thoughts?
That happened?
 
I found this similar to the other day. He posted a picture of him with Paulo Dybala. Just seemed coincidental timing that he posted that picture after being benched for the full game @ Anfield.

Just seemed so wrong and ridiculously immature.
 
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