Funny?sorry but this is
Funny?sorry but this is
No chance. We can talk about ability all day, but big money transfers at world record, or close levels are heavily influenced by marketability as well.
De Bruyne is probably better at shooting and crossing as well. He’s great at everything you need for a CAM. I’d give Pogba strength and dribbling over KdB.The reason Pogba's passing is so underrated is because he's great at many other things unlike his adversaries and De Bruyne who are all about passing. Hell Fabregas wouldn't even be a footballer if he couldn't pass the ball very well.
divisive? You are allowed to compare things in life lad. If you can't handle that then I don't know what to tell ya. Whose the best Messi or Ronaldo? Barcelona of 2009-2014 or Real in late 90's to 2000's? Its just discussion.Hate that this thread exists because it’s divisive. Both are great players end of...
divisive? You are allowed to compare things in life lad. If you can't handle that then I don't know what to tell ya. Whose the best Messi or Ronaldo? Barcelona of 2009-2014 or Real in late 90's to 2000's? Its just discussion.
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the thing about De Bruyne that really made me notice him is the weight of his passing - reminded me of Scholes in that he's more intelligent and passes are exactly want them
Pogba is outrageous but a lot of what he does isn't always accurate - reminds me of Gerrard a bit in that he goes for the throat more
both fantastic in different ways
KDB only 1 assist in an away game this season (EPL)
Pogba 4 assist in away games this season (EPL, an in less games than KDB)
Courtesy Whoscored? (not de Bruyne)
What a pointless person and a pointless post.What a pointless statement .
Anyway,Pogba has more variety( his personality plays a part ),De Bruyne is better at passing in the final 3rd ,as someone stated,his timing is damn near perfect.
Both top notch
To each their own... personally I find ad hominem the biggest barrier to good debates on hereWhat a pointless person and a pointless post.
It is a tragedy you are not intelligent enough to realise that de Bruyne very likely plays with more restrictions when City are on the road, so he won't be the one supplying assists. Keeping in mind that City are away this weekend and playing United, it has relevance on how we can go about winning the game. I'm not going to spend my time debating with a kid on a football manager console, but dim-witted responses like yours spoil this forum for me.
Good post on the subject. The thing I find truly impressive with KDB, is like you said the "when and where" to pass but the weight of those passes ... It makes easier on the runner to take the ball into his stride.Based on this season its becoming more and more apparent what I said near the start, Not only is KDB the better passer but what completely separates them as players is the decision's about when and where to pass. Pogba maybe slightly more blessed with the natural ability but he doesn't have anywhere near the mental intelligence when it comes to passing that KDB does.
Good post on the subject. The thing I find truly impressive with KDB, is like you said the "when and where" to pass but the weight of those passes ... It makes easier on the runner to take the ball into his stride.
This also plays a big role, one gets to showcase more his classy passing than the other.There's no need to compare when the environments of the experiments are vastly different. City have runners and options. We don't. Until we have players that do some running off the ball or some sort of attacking structure drilled in them, Pogba will always look inferior.
There's no need to compare when the environments of the experiments are vastly different. City have runners and options. We don't. Until we have players that do some running off the ball or some sort of attacking structure drilled in them, Pogba will always look inferior.
A nice way of approaching a fairly pointless question.There's no need to compare when the environments of the experiments are vastly different. City have runners and options. We don't. Until we have players that do some running off the ball or some sort of attacking structure drilled in them, Pogba will always look inferior.
Yes it does seem this way to me.Based on this season its becoming more and more apparent what I said near the start, Not only is KDB the better passer but what completely separates them as players is the decision's about when and where to pass. Pogba maybe slightly more blessed with the natural ability but he doesn't have anywhere near the mental intelligence when it comes to passing that KDB does.
There's no need to compare when the environments of the experiments are vastly different. City have runners and options. We don't. Until we have players that do some running off the ball or some sort of attacking structure drilled in them, Pogba will always look inferior.
I was thinking of the exact same example as I read the first para. For all the cries of pogba getting no support that moment was typical of him in these tight games. Putting it behind Sanchez killed the momentum.I know but I'm not the one who created this thread.
I suppose as a creative mid Martial, Lukaku, Rashford & Sanchez is not the worst movement in front of you if I'm being honest. Just like fabregas in front of him at Chelsea you do have runners but obviously not the standard of movement city are at. De bruyne's decision making is quite simply levels above pogba regardless of the team they are in.
Yesterday is a completely random example and not to jump on him because he had a bad game (He is a good player) but if de bruyne had the ball when sanchez was free and overlapping that goes straight into his path and hes through 1 on 1.
There's no need to compare when the environments of the experiments are vastly different. City have runners and options. We don't. Until we have players that do some running off the ball or some sort of attacking structure drilled in them, Pogba will always look inferior.
At what point does a pass become “long”?They’re both completely different players.
I’d imagine Pogba is the better long passer. De Bruyne is the better “creator”
i disagree with this. Pogba is fantastic at long range passing switching play with both feet, stuff Rooney tried emulate but failed. KDB cuts defences and splits defenders open with forward passes along the floor, much more difficultI think Pogba is capable of all the passes KDB is, but KDB is just so much more consistent and clever in his passing and that's the difference. He spots passes that Pogba never would. It's a no contest, because of footballing intelligence, not ability.
Easier to be more consistent when you have a ssytem for atacking. The players all know where they need to run and move into automatically. Pogba essentially has to improvise a lot more. Pogba under Pep would be a monster as well. KDB won't be anywhere near as good under Mou.I think Pogba is capable of all the passes KDB is, but KDB is just so much more consistent and clever in his passing and that's the difference. He spots passes that Pogba never would. It's a no contest, because of footballing intelligence, not ability.
KDB is a different class to Pogba at the moment, lets stop kidding ourselves.
Of course but he benefits heavily from having Pep as a coach. Who here would have thought last year we would be saying KdB is a better cm than Pogba?
Pogba would be monstrous under Pep. Talent wise I think Pogba is ahead of him.
Thats based on nothing more than bias though, all we can go off is which has done more for their respective clubs - not even a contest.
KdB and every City player benefits heavily having Pep as a coach. Would you say Delph is a better LB than Shaw? Pogba has to improvise a lot more. There is no patter to our attacks.