Pogba Future

[KristianMackle]

I was hoping he could be our Yaya Toure but he's just too much about himself. Showing off what he can do. Yaya Toure in his prime was an amazing passer, used his strength very well, had an incredibly high football IQ. No fancy stuff. I would watch him play for City with such envy! That's what we need.

Pogba is a great footballer but he's better off in a team that's already at the top. Not a team grinding it's way back up.

I know Ole will try to keep him by telling him all the things he wants to hear because there is a class player in there but he needs to face the reality, grasp our current situation, sell Pogba and get the players in willing to put everything on the line to get us back to where we were.

 

[Jericholyte2]

Going from Duncan Castles, they've offered us 3 different deals (bale+cash,Courtois+cash and Ceballos+cash)

The figure of money I've used is what i'd expect to take, not what they'd offered.

I'd take Ceballos and a bunch o' money tomorrow!

 

[Eric's Seagull]

Funny how his best season in Italy was with a Marchisio who was injuried every 4 games, Khedira, Lemina, Hernanes or Sturaro in a midfielder 2 with Pogba further forward

15 assists and 10 goals in 49 games at 22-23 years old, Serie A assists leader and in the team of the season btw. Those stats are great for an AM but even more in a defensive league like Serie A.

The player that helped him the most was Bonucci who was a poor defender but the best ball playing CB in the world at that time. With him, Pogba didn't need to drop deep and was free to do what he does the best (causing havoc in the opponent half ) and with 2 DMs doing the dirty work behind him.

Too bad he came here and he became a DM What an awful career choice.

Funny enough, in his 3 seasons here, he only played 1 month and half in a formation close to the Juventus 2015-2016 with Herrera/Matic behind him and a CB trying to build from the back ( Lindelof ) allowing Pogba to focus on what he does the best : causing havoc in the last 30m...and Pogba was starting to destroy the PL and was arguably the best player in the league and one of the 5 best player in the world like he did in Italy but for some reason, Ole decided to push Pogba deeper and the end of the season was terrible

Agree that he had very good stats out there for a supposed defensive league. From what i read he had 8 goals and 12 assists in the league in 15/16 are you talking about in all competitions. I agree he should have been played naturally further forward and that by using him in a more defensive role hampers the offensive side of his game which I believe he was bought for. I mentioned previously in a different thread that we should have had 2 defensive midfielders behind him and used him as a sort of 8/10 hybrid sort of like Lampard at Chelsea where he would be free to cause havoc in the oppositions half like you said and making surging drives runs to the edge of the box where he can be very dangerous for opposing players.

 

[Canagel]

He hasn't ever excelled though. He's been a player who's contributed, sure; but to say he's excelled is silly when you consider how many goals and assists he's contributed throughout his career.

Last season was undisputedly his best ever season, but I was still left feeling underwhelmed by him. About 80% of his numbers, don't forget, came in a two month burst. Where was he in the latter part of the season, when we really needed him? Where was he when we lost to Brighton and drew at Southampton? Jose undeniably shares a lot of the blame for causing our season to end before it ever really began, but Pogba did himself no favours with some of his displays this season just gone and in the big games he was almost unanimously next to useless.

He was absolutely our best player, but he coasted for most of the season and there's no defending that.

Goals and assist are his last problem. 24 goals and 23 assists in 95 games for this average United team is very impressive and unmatched I believe by any players in his position. Especially when half of then has been in a midfield two.
Regarding this season specifically he kept Mourinho in the job (along with Martial) for longer than he deserved and I will dread to think where we would've been without him. Maybe in the bottom half.. In the latter's part of the season his position was not the same but he still create enough chaNces for our strikers to score. Too bad none of them could shoot properly for 2 months.

And that's why the other players decide to vote him in the team of the year.

 

[Jib]

The irony of you talking about the World Cup is that he was a glorified water carrier for about three quarters of France's run to the final. He scored a lovely goal and provided a peach of a pass in the build-up during the game against Croatia, but what else? A goal which was a rebound against Australia? A pass for Mbappe against Argentina? And then I'm struggling. That's about 3 moments in a 7 game run. Hardly a significant contribution.

He wasn't any more outstanding than Kante was. He performed his role well, and that was about it.

He was the leader in the dressing room. It's what Didier Deschamps, and the french players said..and the documentary showed it too.

On the pitch, he was the guy doing the transition. Deschamps style is basic as feck. It's was Pogba lauching Mbappé. France won because of them...

He was involved in the 2 goals against Australia ( his pass forced the defender to give away the pen and he scored the winning goal ), he also created the winning goal against Peru after he won back a ball and made a fantastic pass to Giroud who would have scored if Mbappé wasn't an opportunist, he didn't play against Denmark because he had a yellow and Deschamps didn't want to risk to miss his leader and playmaker against Argentina. Without him, the french NT was awful against Denmark because they can't create anything without the best playermaker of the world cup

Against Argentina and Uruguay he worked hard while still spraying passes like prime Pirlo
:




Against Belgium he bullied Mousa Dembele, KDB and Fellaini while still spraying passes. A masterclass proving that he's the best midfielder in the world in the biggest stage


Against Croatia he was the unofficial MOTM and scored the most important goal, closing the game and the passe to Mbappe before his goal was the pass of the tournament.



Pogba world cup was flawless. Stop hating, it's pathetic.

 

[Jib]

Agree that he had very good stats out there for a supposed defensive league. From what i read he had 8 goals and 12 assists in the league in 15/16 are you talking about in all competitions. I agree he should have been played naturally further forward and that by using him in a more defensive role hampers the offensive side of his game which I believe he was bought for. I mentioned previously in a different thread that we should have had 2 defensive midfielders behind him and used him as a sort of 8/10 hybrid sort of like Lampard at Chelsea where he would be free to cause havoc in the oppositions half like you said and making surging drives runs to the edge of the box where he can be very dangerous for opposing players.

12 goals and 8 assists in the league ( he played something like 36 games )

 

[Drifter]

Pogba still as the same Agent .Says everything about the player, if he's going ,good riddance

 

[Enigma_87]

The irony of you talking about the World Cup is that he was a glorified water carrier for about three quarters of France's run to the final. He scored a lovely goal and provided a peach of a pass in the build-up during the game against Croatia, but what else? A goal which was a rebound against Australia? A pass for Mbappe against Argentina? And then I'm struggling. That's about 3 moments in a 7 game run. Hardly a significant contribution.

He wasn't any more outstanding than Kante was. He performed his role well, and that was about it.

I said significant contribution, not that he was France best player Let's not try to put him down just for the sake of it. If you don't consider that a significant contribution considering the tournament itself is several games I don't know what is.

He produced the pass for the peno against Australia as well and as you said was key to their midfield, although not the shiny one some might have expected.

He is not the type of player that will revitalize a poor team so at the end we might as well cash up on him and try to invest anywhere, but in a good team IMO he would be a good addition no doubt.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I reckon he will stay this season. For all the noise and everything, I reckon he will stay and a possible contract extension.

 

[Eric's Seagull]

12 goals and 8 assists in the league ( he played something like 36 games )

My mistake thank you for correcting me

 

[Jib]

I said significant contribution, not that he was France best player Let's not try to put him down just for the sake of it. If you don't consider that a significant contribution considering the tournament itself is several games I don't know what is.

He produced the pass for the peno against Australia as well and as you said was key to their midfield, although not the shiny one some might have expected.

He is not the type of player that will revitalize a poor team so at the end we might as well cash up on him and try to invest anywhere, but in a good team IMO he would be a good addition no doubt.

You don't have to be afraid. He was France most important and best player during the world cup.

 

[Enigma_87]

You don't have to be afraid. He was France most important and best player during the world cup.

Well one might argue Mbappe was, Kante and Griezmann also put important shift. He certainly shouldn't be marginalized because of the sake of it!

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Three years at the club and I can only think of a handful of really great performances, would we really miss him all that much?

 

[Jib]

Well one might argue Mbappe was, Kante and Griezmann also put important shift. He certainly shouldn't be marginalized because of the sake of it!

Griezmann was poor in the first 4 games. He started to be good in the last 3 games. Kante was the most consistant player with Pogba/Varane/Mbappé during the world cup. Too bad he was awful in the biggest game, Deschamps subbed him for Nzonzi because he was terrible.

Mbappé was really important, Didier Deschamps gameplan was built around him and Pogba. But I still give the edge to Pogba and think that Varane was also better than him.

It was :

1. Pogba
2. Varane
3. Mbappe
4. Kante
5. Griezmann
...
11. Pavard the fraud

 

[el3mel]

He's the only world class players I have seen that people gave too many excuses about him needing so many conditions to perform. Apparently in order for Pogba to perform consistently, he needs to play in midfield trio on the left side only, with attack that move in a specific way, and 2 other midfielders who defend all the time to cover for his defensive sides, and a manager who plays specific style. If you put him in midfield 2, he got an excuse for underperforming. If the attackers are average, he got an excuse, if the midfielders aren't very defensive, he got an excuse for his lack of defense and if we don't like the manager style, he got an extra excuse.

So much very lame excuses for inconsistency I haven't seen before. Who the feck got an excuse for being inconsistent because he's playing in double pivot instead of the left of midfield 3 ? So he needs the entire team aligned in a specific way, play in a very specific position (and no other position in midfield) for him to perform consistently and people seriously believe this ?

So we need to spend an extra 500m on the entire team for Pogba to perform consistently ? If we spend 500m wisely on all positions we'll build a great team with or without Pogba anyway so what's the point ?

 

[Member 55443]

Fcuk him off already

 

[sunama]

The problems are with United, not him. He will be incredible for Real Madrid, I don’t know if it’s just wishful thinking from United fans that he’ll flop and get booed over there, but is certainly wouldn’t count on it.

Pogba will be incredible for Madrid.

Remember, at Madrid, he'll be working with genuine world class talent and this will allow him to do what he wants on the pitch (basically, he'll get a bit more freedom). At MUFC, because most of our players are junk, if he gives the ball away and does not chase it after doing so, it'll probably be a shot on our goal (we saw this many times last season). At Madrid, if he loses the ball, he can be confident that one of his team-mates will get the back back and then pass it back to him.

 

[sunama]

So we need to spend an extra 500m on the entire team for Pogba to perform consistently ? If we spend 500m wisely on all positions we'll build a great team with or without Pogba anyway so what's the point ?

If Woodward were given £500M, I am confident that he'll feck it up and produce a squad which is dire and itself, needs replacing. I have no confidence in Woodward's ability to perform his duties as DoF.

 

[Ooohlala!!!]

He's the only world class players I have seen that people gave too many excuses about him needing so many conditions to perform. Apparently in order for Pogba to perform consistently, he needs to play in midfield trio on the left side only, with attack that move in a specific way, and 2 other midfielders who defend all the time to cover for his defensive sides, and a manager who plays specific style. If you put him in midfield 2, he got an excuse for underperforming. If the attackers are average, he got an excuse, if the midfielders aren't very defensive, he got an excuse for his lack of defense and if we don't like the manager style, he got an extra excuse.

So much very lame excuses for inconsistency I haven't seen before. Who the feck got an excuse for being inconsistent because he's playing in double pivot instead of the left of midfield 3 ? So he needs the entire team aligned in a specific way, play in a very specific position (and no other position in midfield) for him to perform consistently and people seriously believe this ?

So we need to spend an extra 500m on the entire team for Pogba to perform consistently ? If we spend 500m wisely on all positions we'll build a great team with or without Pogba anyway so what's the point ?

This. I don't even think Pogba wanted to return to United but when Madrid turned him down he didn't have much choice and that attitude he's shown since almost day one is a reflection of that.
I've seen comparisons being made between Yaya and Pogba. In their playing style maybe but what separates them by a million miles is mentality. Yaya never wanted to leave Barca (and always wanted to return) but that never stopped him becoming a legend for City. Pogba is the opposite. He's really just a coward and his heart has never been in wearing a United shirt.
Like you said. Spend all the money you want in trying to get the best out of Pogba but if he's weak mentally then it makes no difference.
I really can't wait to see him wear the shirt of Madrid. Paying that sort of money for him he has to hit the ground running but once a few things start going against him he's going to get eaten alive.
I've never felt that way about any player that's left us, not even Ronaldo but for me Pogba is a despicable person and I for one never want to see him in a United shirt ever again.

 

[Deleted 112447]

Pogba will be incredible for Madrid.

Remember, at Madrid, he'll be working with genuine world class talent and this will allow him to do what he wants on the pitch (basically, he'll get a bit more freedom). At MUFC, because most of our players are junk, if he gives the ball away and does not chase it after doing so, it'll probably be a shot on our goal (we saw this many times last season). At Madrid, if he loses the ball, he can be confident that one of his team-mates will get the back back and then pass it back to him.

Exactly.

I hope we don't sell him but if we do, i don't want any of Madrids rejects. We want to build a team to compete with the likes of them in 1-2 years, not take their scraps while selling our best player.

 

[doriandun]

Funny how his best season in Italy was with a Marchisio who was injuried every 4 games, Khedira, Lemina, Hernanes or Sturaro in a midfielder 2 with Pogba further forward

15 assists and 10 goals in 49 games at 22-23 years old, Serie A assists leader and in the team of the season btw. Those stats are great for an AM but even more in a defensive league like Serie A.

The player that helped him the most was Bonucci who was a poor defender but the best ball playing CB in the world at that time. With him, Pogba didn't need to drop deep and was free to do what he does the best (causing havoc in the opponent half ) and with 2 DMs doing the dirty work behind him.

Too bad he came here and he became a DM What an awful career choice.

Funny enough, in his 3 seasons here, he only played 1 month and half in a formation close to the Juventus 2015-2016 with Herrera/Matic behind him and a CB trying to build from the back ( Lindelof ) allowing Pogba to focus on what he does the best : causing havoc in the last 30m...and Pogba was starting to destroy the PL and was arguably the best player in the league and one of the 5 best player in the world like he did in Italy but for some reason, Ole decided to push Pogba deeper like the portuguese cancer did in the first 2 years and half... the end of the season was terrible thanks to this stupid choice

His stats are being misconstruded, as most of his goals where penalties, and only 5 or 6 from open play, happened in the honeymoon period, where we were playing the likes of cardiff and Huddersfield

Pogba had 13 goals and 9 assist in the league - from 35 matches - 7 of the goals where penalties.
Pogba started 3 fa cup games 1 assist 1 goal and 9 champion league games 2 goals and 1 assist.

January

Spurs ---- 1 assist
Brighton ---- 1 goal
Burnley ---- 1 goal


Feburary

Leicester ---- 1 goal
Fulham ----x2 goals
Chelsea ---- a goal and an assist
Crystal Palace 1 assist

March
Nothing

April
West Ham --- 2 goals

Thats 8 out of the 13 goals from the turn of the year and 3 assist. Ole had to make the switch because we had injuries and Pogba was loosing the ball alot further up the field, thus putting pressure on the midfield and defence.

When he goes to Madrid, he will have similar problems as neither Kroos or Modric are players that sit and protect the back four, they have a balanced midfield, with Modric and Casemiro put in a shift, more often than not.

There's a reason why Deschamps plays him deep, France could easily deploy 3-5-2, as Allegri and Conte predominately used at Juventus, because with time and space Pogba's greatest asset is deadly, just like Beckhams ability to play pin point passes.

 

[MS4]

Why dont we get 2 more players that are at the same level like Pogba and we will be a competing club.
I can totally understand Pogba. When i am not all about money but also into winning and improving, i would also change club. I mean after 2 years and we will line up with young, mata, smalling, jones, lingard... Pogba apparently sees no interent in development

 

[Jim Beam]

He already wasted 3 years, they showed to the world that they don't want to build around him. Why it would change now ?? They are just buying time because they know that this squad is weak and they can't afford to lose Pogba this summer.

He was already fooled 3 years ago, he can't make the same error twice. He's 26 since march, time flies and a footballer career is short. It would be unwise to stay.

And I'm not even talking about the issues off the pitch.

Do you see any light from that dark place you positioned yourself some time ago?

 

[We'll See Out There!]

Three years at the club and I can only think of a handful of really great performances, would we really miss him all that much?

Great post. When he goes it'll be interesting to see how much we improve, and we will improve. I think we'll do a lot better in the games against the top 4, Pogba only plays when conditions are 100% perfect for him or if he decides he might fancy playing well that day, he's not a team player. He's like most of those birds on Love Island, smashing to look at but when you need them most they feck off, disappear, go AWOL. Oh on a side note, Fergie calling Mino Raiola a shi%&bag, so true but couldn't Pogba just tell him to shut his pie hole??

 

[DoomSlayer]

Do you see any light from that dark place you positioned yourself some time ago?

That poster has even been demoted. I guess even the mods are fed up of his ignorant and sometimes very insulting posts towards other fans.

 

[Gasolin]

Watch out, NYC is a big city, you might get lost. No need for that, we can have argument without splashing out internet rage.

Okay, my miss on Cantona. Pogba is though still better than anything we have right now, he is probably not a very loyal lad and does not work well in a situation like this (a shame). Has Pogba said that hes team mates are shit? You are saying that Pogba has not played well enough, and not acted like a 300k player to grant him the right to want out of this club. Well fair enough, in my books that is just a matter of opinion.

I agree with you that Pogba was brought to contribute massively to bring success but it would be stupid to think that he would do it all by himself, he is just one piece of the broken puzzle which is missing many very important pieces. There has not really been a possibility of success he could have even contributed. I am wondering if he feels betrayed by the club, by the sheer incompetence to bring good players in and build a decent side. And I am not saying that Pogba has been anywhere near perfection, just that he belongs to the better ones in this team no matter how high the expectations have been towards him. I would argue that if Madrid and Juve are prepared to pay 100+ million for him I think they see too that he is a pretty decent player. I would also happily sell him and replace him if possible(hard thing to do), as he wants out and his mind is not with United.

There was no sarcasm for Maradona.

My bad, obviously the get lost part was not for you but for Pogba if he is not keen on taking on the challenge we have given to him.

All good reasons that I do not deny but from Pogba's perspective, this is just noise. There is no excuse in not being able to make the team perform better when you think you are one of the best in the world. I rate highly Pogba when he is performing, I despise his feelings that he somehow deserves "better". He's the one who's supposed to make things go better.

Hopefully this all gets solved with a renewed commitment from Pogba to United and vice versa. I do agree that it's not all on the players, and the club has to invest properly in the squad to show ambitions.

 

[Member 109952]

If we get around £130m I'd take that and buy 3 £45m players. I do think Pogba is class but he'd fit in better at somewhere like Madrid that already has top players, we're in need of a rebuild ala Liverpool and I think the transfer would suit both us and Pogba well if we can get the extra signings in.

 

[RedDevilUnited369]

He was the leader in the dressing room. It's what Didier Deschamps, and the french players said..and the documentary showed it too.

On the pitch, he was the guy doing the transition. Deschamps style is basic as feck. It's was Pogba lauching Mbappé. France won because of them...

He was involved in the 2 goals against Australia ( his pass forced the defender to give away the pen and he scored the winning goal ), he also created the winning goal against Peru after he won back a ball and made a fantastic pass to Giroud who would have scored if Mbappé wasn't an opportunist, he didn't play against Denmark because he had a yellow and Deschamps didn't want to risk to miss his leader and playmaker against Argentina. Without him, the french NT was awful against Denmark because they can't create anything without the best playermaker of the world cup

Against Argentina and Uruguay he worked hard while still spraying passes like prime Pirlo
:




Against Belgium he bullied Mousa Dembele, KDB and Fellaini while still spraying passes. A masterclass proving that he's the best midfielder in the world in the biggest stage


Against Croatia he was the unofficial MOTM and scored the most important goal, closing the game and the passe to Mbappe before his goal was the pass of the tournament.



Pogba world cup was flawless. Stop hating, it's pathetic.

The narrative that Pogba wasn’t influential to winning the WC always amuses me. It’s like people didn’t actually watch the WC.

 

[clarkydaz]

this stuff about him being a leader and slamming his fist down on a table for France. Why then wasn't he doing this for United when he was given the armband?

 

[Rocknrolla69er]

Ok for all Pogbas creativity etc

How many goals do you think hes cost the team due to his poor tracking back, lapses of concentration especially at set pieces and his general walking around

I dont think he l be a great miss as long as an effective replacement is found

 

[UncleBob]

Ok for all Pogbas creativity etc

How any goals do you think hes cost the team due to his poor tracking back, lapses of concentration especially at set pieces and his general walking around

I dont think he l be a great miss as long as an effective replacement is found

I reckon it's cost us less goals than Matics poor tracking back, and Smalling/Jones/Youngs awful defending.

 

[Full bodied red]

That poster has even been demoted. I guess even the mods are fed up of his ignorant and sometimes very insulting posts towards other fans.

I just noticed that JIB rated Pogba 9.8 for 2018 > 2019 Season.

On that basis, I think it isn't unreasonable to take anything he / she says about Pogba with about 8 tons of salt.

 

[el3mel]

That poster has even been demoted. I guess even the mods are fed up of his ignorant and sometimes very insulting posts towards other fans.

I have the guy on the ignore so have to check after seeing your post. Haha incredible stuff. Once again I never regretted ignoring anyone on my ignore list so far.

 

[roonster09]

That poster has even been demoted. I guess even the mods are fed up of his ignorant and sometimes very insulting posts towards other fans.

I think he is banned.

 

[Shaidabdullah Hussain]

He already wasted 3 years, they showed to the world that they don't want to build around him. Why it would change now ?? They are just buying time because they know that this squad is weak and they can't afford to lose Pogba this summer.

He was already fooled 3 years ago, he can't make the same error twice. He's 26 since march, time flies and a footballer career is short. It would be unwise to stay.

And I'm not even talking about the issues off the pitch.

This comment has given me a taste for bleach.

I hate to use the word, but some (United?) posters in this thread are making some very cucky comments

 

[Toddler]

My bad, obviously the get lost part was not for you but for Pogba if he is not keen on taking on the challenge we have given to him.

All good reasons that I do not deny but from Pogba's perspective, this is just noise. There is no excuse in not being able to make the team perform better when you think you are one of the best in the world. I rate highly Pogba when he is performing, I despise his feelings that he somehow deserves "better". He's the one who's supposed to make things go better.

Hopefully this all gets solved with a renewed commitment from Pogba to United and vice versa. I do agree that it's not all on the players, and the club has to invest properly in the squad to show ambitions.

I see we are not very far away from each other in our opinions in the end. One can argue endlessly how bad or good he has been in reality, what his impact has been and so on. I just think that overall we ask too much of him when the whole setting is all screwed up. He knows he is wanted in other much more competitive teams, that is probably one of the things that makes him want to leave the most.

Yes, hopefully it will be resolved soon.

 

[jem]

The narrative that Pogba wasn’t influential to winning the WC always amuses me. It’s like people didn’t actually watch the WC.

True, but saying he was flawless is also hyberbole in the extreme. I somehow don't see Pogba 2018 coming up when people in the future discuss all-time great WC performances. He was a very good player on a very good team. He wasn't on the level of Zidane, Romario, Ronaldo, Maradona or even James Rodrigues (I can't talk about the likes of Cruyff as I didn't watch him.)

 

[We'll See Out There!]

He already wasted 3 years, they showed to the world that they don't want to build around him. Why it would change now ?? They are just buying time because they know that this squad is weak and they can't afford to lose Pogba this summer.

He was already fooled 3 years ago, he can't make the same error twice. He's 26 since march, time flies and a footballer career is short. It would be unwise to stay.

And I'm not even talking about the issues off the pitch.

Mate read this post back to yourself will you? Pogba fooled omg!! are you ok bud? Seriously. We are Manchester United the biggest club in the World, we offer the best environment to produce the best you can week in week out. Its Pogba who has fooled you all, he promised heart, desire and effort. I've not seen anywhere near enough from him to worry about him leaving that's for sure. He'll be remembered for a shit PK run-up. Pog-bitch!

 

[EireRed_GS]

He's the only world class players I have seen that people gave too many excuses about him needing so many conditions to perform. Apparently in order for Pogba to perform consistently, he needs to play in midfield trio on the left side only, with attack that move in a specific way, and 2 other midfielders who defend all the time to cover for his defensive sides, and a manager who plays specific style. If you put him in midfield 2, he got an excuse for underperforming. If the attackers are average, he got an excuse, if the midfielders aren't very defensive, he got an excuse for his lack of defense and if we don't like the manager style, he got an extra excuse.

So much very lame excuses for inconsistency I haven't seen before. Who the feck got an excuse for being inconsistent because he's playing in double pivot instead of the left of midfield 3 ? So he needs the entire team aligned in a specific way, play in a very specific position (and no other position in midfield) for him to perform consistently and people seriously believe this ?

So we need to spend an extra 500m on the entire team for Pogba to perform consistently ? If we spend 500m wisely on all positions we'll build a great team with or without Pogba anyway so what's the point ?

Amen to that

 

[Adam-Utd]

He's the only world class players I have seen that people gave too many excuses about him needing so many conditions to perform. Apparently in order for Pogba to perform consistently, he needs to play in midfield trio on the left side only, with attack that move in a specific way, and 2 other midfielders who defend all the time to cover for his defensive sides, and a manager who plays specific style. If you put him in midfield 2, he got an excuse for underperforming. If the attackers are average, he got an excuse, if the midfielders aren't very defensive, he got an excuse for his lack of defense and if we don't like the manager style, he got an extra excuse.

So much very lame excuses for inconsistency I haven't seen before. Who the feck got an excuse for being inconsistent because he's playing in double pivot instead of the left of midfield 3 ? So he needs the entire team aligned in a specific way, play in a very specific position (and no other position in midfield) for him to perform consistently and people seriously believe this ?

So we need to spend an extra 500m on the entire team for Pogba to perform consistently ? If we spend 500m wisely on all positions we'll build a great team with or without Pogba anyway so what's the point ?

The problem is NOBODY performed, this is what we keep trying to tell you.

If he was the odd one out it would be a fair criticism, but he was the best of a bad bunch.

Anyway, we shall see how we perform without him if we don't replace him adequately.