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Pochettino | Agrees to be US National Team Coach
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Genuinely admitting his level. Fair play.
Didn’t they also want Klopp at first?
He surely won’t have this role forever and will come back once a top job is free.
He surely won’t have this role forever and will come back once a top job is free.
If he gets another top job he's clearly got some dirt on some powerful people in football.
My guess is it will be the Saudi national side next for him.
That’s a surprise.
Would be a huge get if true. Besides the obvious pipe dream of klopp couldn't really think of a much bigger name. Seems like would be a good fit for the usmnt player pool
I don’t see why this would be the case. He’d be able to get a PL job whenever he chose to outside of the top maybe 4-5 teams (and even then I’m sure he’d be considered). He’s just joining the roundabout of good but not elite managers that’s always existed and why people like Redknap, McLaren, Moyes, big Sam, Ranieri etc. constantly got good jobs. Now it will be guys like Poch, Nuno, Silva etc.
Also the lure of coaching USA at the World Cup which they’re hosting. The first ever 46 team World Cup. It’s an attractive proposition and I can confirm that as I’ve been planning on a football manager USA save.
Managing PSG and Chelsea back to back wont look too bad on your resume, but it will break your spirit.
Seems like he has issues with authority so taking this job makes sense. He left Tottenham bc of levy, correct? And he obviously had major issues with the Chelsea management. The lower down the table he goes as far as club management, the less transfer power//spending he’s gonna get. So maybe he’s just tired of that side of the game.
Here, he gets to do whatever. The US soccer federation are a bunch of goons but they’ll 100% stay out of his way.
I’m happy. Probably the best manager we could realistically get and he’s know for working well with young players. Hopefully it works out
Here, he gets to do whatever. The US soccer federation are a bunch of goons but they’ll 100% stay out of his way.
I’m happy. Probably the best manager we could realistically get and he’s know for working well with young players. Hopefully it works out
Right, that means the USA are definitely not winning the world cup.
Somewhere in MEN HQ Luckhurst is crying now.
US coach with the World Cup there will be good for him
That 3rd place finish, and not winning trophies (because they don’t help the club) seems a lifetime away at this point. Glad we dodged this bullet over the years, no where near good enough to manage at an elite level.
Apparently Amadeus has already found a house in Chicago.
He'll just manage up to the World Cup and then go back into club management afterwards. This to me is similar to Gus Hiddink having a few club failures and agreeing to manage South Korea in 2000. That run to the World Cup SF didn't do him any harm with club sides.
Poch reputation took a knock but I think this is a good move as US squad is stacked with young talent and I've said for years they need a top European coach to get more out of them that the American options can't.
Looking forward to how he does, QFs should be a realistic target.
My sources say the swamps of Louisiana.
What a ridiculous assertion that is repeated too often on here.
Champions League final and multiple top 2 finishes with Tottenham and Levy (may never be achieved again for that club under Daniel Levy), League title with PSG (same as other so called "elite" managers who have managed that club), Building some of Espanyol and Southampton's best ever teams but apparently he's nowhere near good enough to manage at an elite level. Yeah Pochettino is not good enough to steer Manchester United to the lofty heights of 6th and 8th (plus dead last in an easy Champions League group) in two of the last 3 seasons. Such elite levels.
Also took that shitshow of a Chelsea side to 6th last year, above the elite and mighty Manchester United, with no control over his squad.
Yeah, but he's proven that he's a nearly man and isn't the man to win you things.
Both Chelsea coaches from last season have fecked off to America 
About the level that feels right for him. No idea why he was ever viewed as a special coach by some.
This is about right for him, right now. High profile job, but without the day-to-day intrusions of a domestic league. I think he was doing a v decent, albeit impossible job at Chelsea and was treated terribly there, but that's Chelsea under Boehly. However, there will be a level of expectation, with the WC in US/Can/Mex and an influential USWNT, he will not be able to rest easily.
I always think his best work was at Southampton, bringing through Van Dyck, Mane' and getting a small club with decent players, to play really good stuff.
I always think his best work was at Southampton, bringing through Van Dyck, Mane' and getting a small club with decent players, to play really good stuff.
Imagine Amadeus simping everything the US does.
Very good post.
As with any top level manager, give him the squad and resources to win you titles and he will win the titles. He has proven repeatedly that he can build teams that perform well above the sum of their parts on big stages, the ultimate determinant of what an elite manager is.
Nobody judges Ancelotti by what he did at Everton.
He also managed to not win the league with PSG.
False. He won the league with PSG. Yet another falsehood peddled on the Caf.
Wow. How very impressive.
Using Ancelotti as a comparative makes your argument fall down instantly because he's managed to do things that no other manager has achieved in terms of his trophy assemblage and he's won multiple things at multiple clubs in Europe.
Poch has won stuff at a club everyone wins stuff at and even then he showed his loser mentality at times. He's a good manager but to be elite you need to win things consistently and not be a nearly man.
Whether its impressive or not is besides the point. If we were judging managers by how "impressive" their trophies were, little of what Pep has done at City would be considered impressive.
He also managed to not win it in his first season there. Yes came in halfway, but a point behind the league leaders. Finished a point behind Lille in the end.
Winning the league every season with PSG is really par for the course.
No it doesn't. Every club Ancelotti has won trophies at were a powerhouse with the talent and resources to win those titles. Real Madrid, AC Milan, Bayern, PSG, Chelsea.
Didn't win the league at Juve, Didn't win at Everton, Didn't win at Napoli.
And yet he is about 16 times the manager Poch is.
It's an utterly daft comparison you're making to Poch. Think about what you're doing. A man that's won every top league in Europe and a 5x CL winner.
When presented with facts, resort to name calling.
I haven't called you any names. I said the comparison you're making is daft. You can't even get that right.
That didn’t happen.
The comment about Ancelotti makes sense; he coached smaller clubs and did not stand out there.
Good move for Poch: a bit of an adventure and it is a team that is developing. He did well at Chelsea, his sacking was surprising.
Good move for Poch: a bit of an adventure and it is a team that is developing. He did well at Chelsea, his sacking was surprising.
Always interesting to me how it seems like it was always close, but never materialised (Poch to United).
In 2016 we went for Mourinho while Fergie reportedly wanted Poch
January-April 2019 linked with Pochettino but in the end made Ole permanent manager
January 2020 - again Poch linked with United
October-November 2020 - same but comeback at Everton saved Ole's job
December 2021-April 2022 - he was one of 2 candidates but club went with ten Hag
May-June 2024 - he was a candidate yet again but club decided to keep ten Hag
Now Pochettino taking US job basically means we won't go for him when/if ten Hag gets sacked and think most people on here will be happy with that. Still think he did a solid job at Chelsea last season and it was surprising when they decided to sack him.
In 2016 we went for Mourinho while Fergie reportedly wanted Poch
January-April 2019 linked with Pochettino but in the end made Ole permanent manager
January 2020 - again Poch linked with United
October-November 2020 - same but comeback at Everton saved Ole's job
December 2021-April 2022 - he was one of 2 candidates but club went with ten Hag
May-June 2024 - he was a candidate yet again but club decided to keep ten Hag
Now Pochettino taking US job basically means we won't go for him when/if ten Hag gets sacked and think most people on here will be happy with that. Still think he did a solid job at Chelsea last season and it was surprising when they decided to sack him.