Where are people putting their consoles if they're the star feature of the room? Do you hang it from the ceiling?
It goes under the telly.
Gaming PlayStation 5
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It goes under the telly.
I'm hoping ps4 remasters or ports of older games from the ps1/ps2 era will play ok. I've built a nice little digital collection of FF and RE games that I'll be pissed if they can't play on PS5.
We were talking about the multiplayer experience on console being rubbish in comparison to PC specifically, not the advantages of peripherals, iirc. So, I am still confused as to how you reach the conclusion that the console MP experience is worse, when servers are more populated - which translates into shorter wait times and more accurate skill matching - and cheating is much less of an issue.
For context, I own both a console and a mid-high end PC and have done for close to 20 years. I play more games on PC these days than console. I genuinely find it confusing how you come to the conclusion that you have, however.
Comparison of skill level between PC and console is pretty much futile these days, as you can use KB/M on console and many PC gamers use a controller. An argument can be made for frame rates giving a slight advantage, but that really only implies that console gamers have to be more skilled to keep up in a cross-play environment....but that's a different subject.
I don’t generally take my audio/video equipment out in public. A neutral design in a home theatre is usually preferable.
The first part makes no sense at all
Framerates aren't just a slight advantage. Just like autoaim/aimbot isn't.
But yeah it's a different subject really and rather a tedious one as most take sides and can't be objective about the strengths/weaknesses of the relevent parts.
As someone who plays both console/PC with whatever is the best peripheral to use per game, I couldn't give a shit about whether people think it takes more or less skill to use a controller or MKB. Both are very different and have very different skill sets.
I could never really get into PC gaming, I’m just not that good with a keyboard and mouse. That said I used to love Unreal Tournament 3 back in the day, was one of my first ever online games.
As I mentioned in my original post, Sony have fumbled the messaging. What Cerny said in keynote didn't align with what was written in the blog post. Also, take a look at this, they issued an update on BC which you didn't quote.
'Boosted frequency' means running at PS5 clocks aka Enhanced BC. PS4 Pro also has an in-built boost mode function, you can turn it on to run PS4 titles at Pro clocks. Not every game is able to take advantage of it, hence, many devs offer a Pro patch. But, even in absence of either, games still run like they do on PS4. PS5 is working on the same lines, some codes will able to function on PS5 clocks, some won't. Hence them evaluating it title-by-title, but that's beyond the regular BC, they have a SoC in place which can mimic the logic of preceding consoles. We've known since early Gonzalo leaks from 2018 that Sony were going with baked in BC on the die itself. The clocks from PS4 and Pro were found in that, which is consistent with every PS5 SoC leak later on in Ariel and Oberon.
I highly suggest you to take a look at their March keynote again, you don't praise AMD for keeping certain features while transitioning to a new architecture or shower praises of your BC, if Top 100 games are all you get to function, and require dedicated investment to get them running. That would be a horrific waste of time and money, which also has a bearing on the very hardware you're designing. Cerny and his team stuck with 18WGPs (36CUs, same as PS4 Pro) as it would be easier to get logic timing right. There is a slide in the presentation which shows two legacy PS4 modes, pay attention to what is being said in there, and later on.
Sony have bungled the messaging on many instances so far on PS5, just yesterday you had the whole fiasco of Spider-Man game being a 'remaster' etc. The confusion around BC is another one, I expect them to clarify it one of the future events. As for me spreading disinformation, this topic has been beaten to death on PS5 architecture thread on Era. Go through it.
https://www.shopto.net/en/playstation5/
Preorder your preorder slot basically.Once pricing announced they’d get back to you asking which model you want.
Once you click on register your interest on the PS5 console, it gives you an option on which one you want. Either the standard or digital version.
Completely agree. I couldn't ever imagine playing CS, Overwatch or ARMA with a controller and being as effective but then games like Destiny and The Division - whilst benefiting from the more accurate aim via mouse - really don't feel as slick using a keyboard to control movement and so I would always pick a controller.
And yeah, "slight" was probably an understatement if we're talking a quality rig Vs a console running 30 FPS.
Nice one. Just registered for the standard one with an extra controller, charging dock and the headphones.
Would always prefer a gaming laptop, unless you love games which are exclusive on PS.
Laptop? Are you are touchpad Chad or do you use a mouse?
I have a Logitech gamepad for some games and I use the mouse for some games.
The Xbox looks terrible.
Sony have bungled the messaging alright, but I think deliberately. They know that Backwards Compatability wont be complete by launch, so they are keeping the message vague.
You accused others, including myself, of spreading misinformation but then the above.
This contradicts what is written on the Playstation Blog
And this is the misinformation you accused me of spreading:
Literally everything I've written there is correct.
Anyway, this is the last I'll say on the subject
Sony have bungled the messaging alright, but I think deliberately. They know that Backwards Compatability wont be complete by launch, so they are keeping the message vague.
You accused others, including myself, of spreading misinformation but then the above.
This contradicts what is written on the Playstation Blog
And this is the misinformation you accused me of spreading:
Literally everything I've written there is correct.
Anyway, this is the last I'll say on the subject
I feel like we’re going in circles mate, and the screen which you posted is exactly what I meant when I wrote they bungled the messaging. The words in there are in complete contradiction to what was said by PS5 lead architect as I explained it above. I just tried to explain the technicality behind it to add more weight to the argument I was making. Anyways, the screen which you posted, it got updated later with an added para which I quoted in my last post.
Maybe you’re indeed right, Sony have completely messed up the BC but given what we’ve known since 2018 and developments since then, it’s hard for me to buy into that. We shall see soon hopefully, if it’s a messaging problem, or a hardware problem. I’m leaning towards former but if you don’t, let’s agree to disagree.
P.S. I never accused you of spreading mis-information. That’s down to major outlets and Sony themselves. Sony did a very poor job with blogpost after keynote and majority of big gaming sites never bothered to research the tech themselves and just ran with the Top 100 narrative.
For the record, @Kush is right on this one wrt BC... It will become clear soon enough so no point arguing over it.
No worries mate.. dunno why I argue with people on the internet about video consoles
That's what the internet is for isn't it?No worries mate.. dunno why I argue with people on the internet about video consoles
I wonder how Sony as a company feel about their design. There are countless number of memes and jokes going around about it.
One thing the PS5 reveal has told me is that console warriors still exist. Try reading comments under an IGN tweet or something. It's pathetic
There was about the PS4 Pro and even their competitors like the Series X (which Greenberg embraced by having the 'Series X fridge' in the background of the Inside Xbox event). Ultimately don't think they'll be bothered and the publicity is good.
Do you really think somebody at their offices hasn't already made the 'router' or 'Alienware' joke. They've consciously chosen that design, I'm sure they probably privately focus tested it too. In a years time literally nobody will care...
I am sure they feel just fine and why wouldn't they. Nice modern design. People just try to be funny and "creative" doing all these router jokes but Sony couldn't care less I am sure.
Won't give a shit, it's designed that way for performance reasons regarding airflow.
I think it looks good, to be honest. I really like the colour scheme too, though the console has been associated with jet black since PS2.
Only thing I’m concerned about is that barely any of the games shown even look worth buying it over. I’m sure Horizon, and maybe one or two others will look amazing, but beyond that? It felt very Indie central.
Only thing I’m concerned about is that barely any of the games shown even look worth buying it over. I’m sure Horizon, and maybe one or two others will look amazing, but beyond that? It felt very Indie central.
Memes mean nothing.
Xbox picked the safest, non-offensive design possible and still got "Haha, looks like a fridge." memes.
Xbox picked the safest, non-offensive design possible and still got "Haha, looks like a fridge." memes.
I like the design partly because ive got a white/black PC tower but it looks fecking huge
The design has a grown on me, I think it’ll look a lot better than in the pictures aswell. The Xbox design is just hideous, just a big block.
As an aside, Sony had a terrible start with their PS3 launch and Microsoft with their silly DRM issues ensured the Xbox One received a lot of bad press and a huge backlash from gamers. Seems like this generation neither has made any significant errors so far?
As an aside, Sony had a terrible start with their PS3 launch and Microsoft with their silly DRM issues ensured the Xbox One received a lot of bad press and a huge backlash from gamers. Seems like this generation neither has made any significant errors so far?
Deathloop confirmed to be 4k/60fps (released holiday 2020)
https://bethesda.net/en/article/7u3...etails?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Community
https://bethesda.net/en/article/7u3...etails?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Community
Lot of weirdness in this thread. Buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want. It's a consumer choice not a life choice.
All my friends are playstation and I'm looking forward to the ssd load times for my existing library. That's why I'll be buying day one.
If you hate the design, want to wait, want an X box.... great. Not a political choice either. fecking xbox nazi's
All my friends are playstation and I'm looking forward to the ssd load times for my existing library. That's why I'll be buying day one.
If you hate the design, want to wait, want an X box.... great. Not a political choice either. fecking xbox nazi's
Lot of weirdness in this thread. Buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want. It's a consumer choice not a life choice.
All my friends are playstation and I'm looking forward to the ssd load times for my existing library. That's why I'll be buying day one.
If you hate the design, want to wait, want an X box.... great. Not a political choice either. fecking xbox nazi's
Eh...?
Lot of weirdness in this thread. Buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want. It's a consumer choice not a life choice.
All my friends are playstation and I'm looking forward to the ssd load times for my existing library. That's why I'll be buying day one.
If you hate the design, want to wait, want an X box.... great. Not a political choice either. fecking xbox nazi's
Not for us that don't have a life.
If you have no life then there's, by default, no life choice.
Gaming is my main hobby other than football, so I'm buying this thing even if it's 600 quid, though I suspect 400-450 is more likely. I've got friends who drop more than that a year on fishing gear or golfing.
Jaysus, so much chatter about the design of the box. It's fine, little weird looking but the rest of my house isn't an architectural and design marvel either. I'm sure it'll look fairly good when I buy it. Which I'm pretty sure I will given Sony has been delivering now every generation. I'm not bothered about design or even backward compatibility. The PS5 games library is what matters really. Although I do plan to buy it only once the second year kicks in and there are enough games.