Gaming PlayStation 5

There will definitely be a slim version for both consoles. I expect that to be the black version.
 
I love platformers, Crash and Spyro among my favoruite games and both PS4 remasters were fantastic. This looks right up my street and its also the sort of game my Mrs would have a go at (she unexpectedly got quite into Fall Guys last month)



Its just a shame its a full price release. If this launched at the same price as the Crash/Spyro remasters it would have been a day 1 purchase for me. I will wait until it goes on sale.
 
I love platformers, Crash and Spyro among my favoruite games and both PS4 remasters were fantastic. This looks right up my street and its also the sort of game my Mrs would have a go at (she unexpectedly got quite into Fall Guys last month)



Its just a shame its a full price release. If this launched at the same price as the Crash/Spyro remasters it would have been a day 1 purchase for me. I will wait until it goes on sale.

Yeah it looks like it could be a really fun game but I can’t justify £69.99. One for the sales as you say.
 
Yeah it looks like it could be a really fun game but I can’t justify £69.99. One for the sales as you say.

You can get it for around £50 in some stores. But that's still a long way above the £30 Spyro cost at at launch.

I have no issue paying full price for huge Last Of Us 2 style styles, but there should defiantly be a middle ground for shorter experiences. Crash PS4 dominated the sales charts for weeks when it launched and was super successful, but it would have sold a lot less as a full priced release.
 
I am getting Miles Morales and Cyberpunk on PS5 launch day. And I have never played God Of War (I have no idea how I missed that, I have never played any God Of War game but I know the PS4 one is meant to be one of the best games ever made) and Days Gone from the PS+ collection, so I don't see myself picking up many games between launch and Christmas unless the much rumoured Mass Effect game does suddenly get released.
 
I am getting Miles Morales and Cyberpunk on PS5 launch day. And I have never played God Of War (I have no idea how I missed that, I have never played any God Of War game but I know the PS4 one is meant to be one of the best games ever made) and Days Gone from the PS+ collection, so I don't see myself picking up many games between launch and Christmas unless the much rumoured Mass Effect game does suddenly get released.
I never played a God of War game before the one on PS4 and I loved it. Players of the older games told me they had trouble adjusting to the new button layout and combat system but it felt very intuitive to me.
 
I am getting Miles Morales and Cyberpunk on PS5 launch day. And I have never played God Of War (I have no idea how I missed that, I have never played any God Of War game but I know the PS4 one is meant to be one of the best games ever made) and Days Gone from the PS+ collection, so I don't see myself picking up many games between launch and Christmas unless the much rumoured Mass Effect game does suddenly get released.

Personally couldn't stand GOW PS4. The mechanics play like an RPG (which was a shock given the visuals), had excellent cinematic elements but the combat was very robotic. I played probably 3 hours worth and traded it in.

Spiderman PS4 was an incredible experience fluid combat, intriguing story line and good base of character development I expect the Miles Morales installment to be just as thrilling. It's the only reason I'm considering pre ordering the console.
 
Personally couldn't stand GOW PS4. The mechanics play like an RPG (which was a shock given the visuals), had excellent cinematic elements but the combat was very robotic. I played probably 3 hours worth and traded it in.

Spiderman PS4 was an incredible experience fluid combat, intriguing story line and good base of character development I expect the Miles Morales installment to be just as thrilling. It's the only reason I'm considering pre ordering the console.
Guessing you're more of a gameplay kinda player rather then a story player. Like spiderman, amazing gameplay but a good story.
 



Looks like it’s only gonna run at 1440p 60 or 4K 30. That’s a little disappointing IMO.
 
Why?

It looks incredible and people need to give up this 4k 60fps dream for next gen only games.
Guess I’ve just got on the marketing hype that both this and the X are aiming for 4K 60 in most titles - they are both even being advertised as 8k capable!
look I am still gonna enjoy the crap out of this game and ultimately I won’t care BUT if they’re saying we are gonna get something and right out of the gate it’s not possible, then I think we’re right to be a bit disappointed.

Makes me think the Series S is gonna actually deliver 1080p at best
 
Honestly, I'm not overly fussed about 4k 60fps as most other people. I find that stylistically that kind of frame rate detracts from the cinematic quality of certain games, but then again I play mostly story-driven games and not online where these kind of advantages are desired. Have you ever watched a cinematic movie but changed it from 25-30 fps to 60? it looks weird, less impressive even. That's how some games look to me in 60fps+
 
Honestly, I'm not overly fussed about 4k 60fps as most other people. I find that stylistically that kind of frame rate detracts from the cinematic quality of certain games, but then again I play mostly story-driven games and not online where these kind of advantages are desired. Have you ever watched a cinematic movie but changed it from 25-30 fps to 60? it looks weird, less impressive even. That's how some games look to me in 60fps+

That's two different mediums that work in entirely different ways.

I mean to suggest framerate actually looks worse in games is one of the oddest takes I've ever read. I get people who haven't ever played games at faster framerates not really understanding or caring about the difference, but suggesting 30fps is actually better? Each to their own on that one!
 
I know many people getting very worked up over 30 v 60 fps. But honestly? I have never noticed all that much of a difference. My PC runs many games at 120 fps, but I don't notice a huge difference when I play say Destiny on PS4 instead at a much lower fps.
 
I know many people getting very worked up over 30 v 60 fps. But honestly? I have never noticed all that much of a difference. My PC runs many games at 120 fps, but I don't notice a huge difference when I play say Destiny on PS4 instead at a much lower fps.

For a start, is your monitor over 60hz?

In any case, it's like the people who claim not to be able to tell the difference between standard and HD, some people just don't know what they are looking at, other's just don't care. It's all fair enough, but whatever your preference higher fps/hz is better in every single way and not just with the smoothness on screen. Controls, collisions, physics, animations, etc...it's all affected.. That doesn't mean people have to care of course.
 
For a start, is your monitor over 60hz?

In any case, it's like the people who claim not to be able to tell the difference between standard and HD, some people just don't know what they are looking at, other's just don't care. It's all fair enough, but whatever your preference higher fps/hz is better in every single way and not just with the smoothness on screen. Controls, collisions, physics, animations, etc...it's all affected.. That doesn't mean people have to care of course.

I guess I just don't care. New fancy water effects etc do nothing for me. Im not at all excited to jump to PS5 for better graphics as games already look fantastic, but new game tech like we have seen in Ratchet and Clank, faster loading times, an end to hours of copying etc all sound great.
 
That's two different mediums that work in entirely different ways.

I mean to suggest framerate actually looks worse in games is one of the oddest takes I've ever read. I get people who haven't ever played games at faster framerates not really understanding or caring about the difference, but suggesting 30fps is actually better? Each to their own on that one!
Yeah I don't think I've ever played a game at 60fps? Unless there were some running on that on the PS4 Pro which I missed. Probably why I’m not over fully fussed about 60fps or 4k - improve ai this gen and I’ll be happy!
 
I guess I just don't care. New fancy water effects etc do nothing for me. Im not at all excited to jump to PS5 for better graphics as games already look fantastic, but new game tech like we have seen in Ratchet and Clank, faster loading times, an end to hours of copying etc all sound great.

Anything that affects gameplay is king for me. Fps is way up there as one of the leading factors outside of design.

I'm not overly fussed about 4K or "fancy water effects" (:lol:)


Yeah I don't think I've ever played a game at 60fps? Unless there were some running on that on the PS4 Pro which I missed. Probably why I’m not over fully fussed about 60fps or 4k - improve ai this gen and I’ll be happy!

Some pro games come close to stable, but not really enough. It is a big deal, and a huge difference whether or not you are looking for it. And yes, even A.I is affected.
 



Looks like it’s only gonna run at 1440p 60 or 4K 30. That’s a little disappointing IMO.

1440p with great Anti Aliasing is what I expect performance mode will be for a lot of games. Looks absolutely gorgeous. There is a fan made HDR demo that looks even better

 
Did everyone get sorted with the new wave of preorders last week? Or are some still searching?
 
My Argos one got confirmed so I will need to cancel that. I'm still suspicious of how easy it was to order one from Amazon :lol:
 
Some pro games come close to stable, but not really enough. It is a big deal, and a huge difference whether or not you are looking for it. And yes, even A.I is affected.

Seems a bit weird to me that some aren't arsed about 4K/FPS this gen, in that case they might as well stick to current gen consoles. It's like back when the PS3 launched and you said you weren't arsed about 1080/720p and continued to game on a analog signal TV.
 
Seems a bit weird to me that some aren't arsed about 4K/FPS this gen, in that case they might as well stick to current gen consoles. It's like back when the PS3 launched and you said you weren't arsed about 1080/720p and continued to game on a analog signal TV.

Yeah Elvis, stick to your PS2.
 
Seems a bit weird to me that some aren't arsed about 4K/FPS this gen, in that case they might as well stick to current gen consoles. It's like back when the PS3 launched and you said you weren't arsed about 1080/720p and continued to game on a analog signal TV.

New games aren't going to be released for older consoles :rolleyes: It might surprise you to learn that visuals aren't the most important thing about gaming for some people. For me the order of importance goes Story, Gameplay, Music, Visuals.
 
New games aren't going to be released for older consoles :rolleyes: It might surprise you to learn that visuals aren't the most important thing about gaming for some people. For me the order of importance goes Story, Gameplay, Music, Visuals.

Fair points, although I'd say the PS4 will still support newly released games for a good while yet. By the way I'm not saying it's perfectly not fine to continue to game at 1080p on next gen consoles just pointing out it may be a waste in terms of what the machine can do. I mean you can be not arsed about 4K but it's a pretty big jump in resolution.
 
Seems a bit weird to me that some aren't arsed about 4K/FPS this gen, in that case they might as well stick to current gen consoles. It's like back when the PS3 launched and you said you weren't arsed about 1080/720p and continued to game on a analog signal TV.

The switch was underpowered compared to even PS4 at launch, but was a huge success. It's the quality of games that matters
 
Do we know whether the additional storage option is a replacement for the NVMe that’s already in there or you can add a separate one? If it’s a replacement, that’s a real negative as to get more storage I’d have to purchase a 2Tb drive to replace the existing amount and add a further 1Tb. That would make the Microsoft alternative, even at £219, seem cheap!
 
My Argos one got confirmed so I will need to cancel that. I'm still suspicious of how easy it was to order one from Amazon :lol:

I cancelled my Argos order & am relying on Amazon to not let me down. I think if there was going to be an issue, they would’ve said something by now.

Was a pain having to call Argos up rather than being able to do it online but managed to sort it all out. Hopefully people who genuinely want the console can get it not the idiots hoarding consoles to sell on eBay for profits.
 
The switch was underpowered compared to even PS4 at launch, but was a huge success. It's the quality of games that matters

The switch isn't capable of 4K though, it's a 720/1080p machine. PS5/Xbox series X are 4K machines that support lower resolutions, you're paying extra money for that.
 
Do we know whether the additional storage option is a replacement for the NVMe that’s already in there or you can add a separate one? If it’s a replacement, that’s a real negative as to get more storage I’d have to purchase a 2Tb drive to replace the existing amount and add a further 1Tb. That would make the Microsoft alternative, even at £219, seem cheap!

You add extra drives, you don't replace the existing one
 
Do we know whether the additional storage option is a replacement for the NVMe that’s already in there or you can add a separate one? If it’s a replacement, that’s a real negative as to get more storage I’d have to purchase a 2Tb drive to replace the existing amount and add a further 1Tb. That would make the Microsoft alternative, even at £219, seem cheap!

Replace the existing drive? I got bad news for you because external storage on PS5 is going to cost similar or more at the start. It will drop down after a few years.
 
You add extra drives, you don't replace the existing one
Is that confirmed because I couldn’t find that anywhere

*edit - I did find it, had to go to the Cerny presentation to get a definitive answer. There’s an expansion port
 
Last edited:
Exactly. And the lack of 4k has never bothered me once, the Switch has amazing games.

But if the switch was capable of 4K gaming you'd be paying a lot more for it, that's my point. I wouldn't pay for a PS5 until I can switch to 4K but that's just me, you'd save money gaming on the PS4 Pro for the time being, as I'm sure most games will be supported on that also for a good while. Although the PS5 does have that awesome SSD
 
Replace the existing drive? I got bad news for you because external storage on PS5 is going to cost similar or more at the start. It will drop down after a few years.
That’s exactly what I’m saying - it’ll be more expensive. If there’s no additional NVMe slot (because we know there’s no proprietary bit on the back) and you HAVE to replace the 825gb one with say, a 2Tb one, that’s gonna be a huge investment.
*Edit - there’s an expansion port. So yes equally expensive to start with, cheaper down the road.
 
Last edited:
But if the switch was capable of 4K gaming you'd be paying a lot more for it, that's my point. I wouldn't pay for a PS5 until I can switch to 4K but that's just me, you'd save money gaming on the PS4 Pro for the time being, as I'm sure most games will be supported on that also for a good while. Although the PS5 does have that awesome SSD

I bought a pro before I had a 4k tv because it made an online game I play a lot run better. I have a 4k TV, but I'm buying into PS5 for exclusive and better running games, not because of marginally better graphics.

Sticking to my PS4 won't let me play the new ratchet and clank for example. And once we get beyond the launch window less and less games will appear on both systems. This is also why I don't give a stuff that on paper the Xbox CPU is marginally faster than the PS5 one. It's all about the games, but that's just me.

If I really cared about FPS or 4k I would play more games on my PC and not buy either console - but I prefer sitting on my recliner sofa than at my desk