Players you don't want United to sign this Summer

breakout67 said:
Yep, talking about shades of grey then saying Dier is a sixth place standard player. If you think Dier is someone with no quality and just someone who will do a job then you are just the person i outlined in the bolded paragraph. Dier is a starter in a team that finished 2nd in the league, but he isnt a glamorous signing so he must be an average player. Im sure if we signed Fabinho youd be ecstatic since he's part of the team that is being hyped up to the moon.

We have 1 DM, who is 35 years old and has the mobility of a turtle. We are also looking for a CB to add to the team. Dier is a good DM and CB, and will probably be cheaper than an exotic name. If we sign Dier for the £40 million that is floating around then its a tidy purchase of a solid young player than can play in two positions. Fabinho is also a good option so long as the asking price isnt absurd.
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Well I didn't actually mention Fabinho myself but I certainly wouldn't argue there's any guarantees with him either.

Dier doubtlessly does the dirty work well while allowing the more talented players in the Spurs side to flourish. While that's not be readily dismissed are we not looking to be making somewhat of a statement of intent with our recruitment this summer? Bringing in the talent and quality required that would allow to compete for the domestic title? I'm just dubious as to whether Dier would make any real difference in that regard which is probably why I made my initial consolidation remark in the first place.
 
elnorte said:
Well I didn't actually mention Fabinho myself but I certainly wouldn't argue there's any guarantees with him either.

Dier doubtlessly does the dirty work well while allowing the more talented players in the Spurs side to flourish. While that's not be readily dismissed are we not looking to be making somewhat of a statement of intent with our recruitment this summer? Bringing in the talent and quality required that would allow to compete for the domestic title? I'm just dubious as to whether Dier would make any real difference in that regard which is probably why I made my initial consolidation remark in the first place.
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I'm not sure what you mean by statement of intent, but the purpose of the transfer window is to address deficiencies in the squad. When you have a good squad that works well together as a team then you have a good chance of winning the title.

Rojo is injured and Smalling/Jones are unreliable, so a CB would be good to buy. We only have two-full time midfielders who are both attack minded, so a DM would be good to buy, and we'll have Perieira/Tuanzebe/Fosu-Mensah as back up midfielders. We are in need of goalscoring threat so one or two goalscorers would be imprtant. Our left flank is weak, because Lingard and Martial are not meeting the required level and our LB options are not very attacking.

This would mean our window would be:
- Griezmann and/or no.9 (Griezmann is probably a done deal since he said on TV that the deal is 6/10 a few days before we won the Europa League)
- A left winger or left back to make our left side more balanced
- A defensive minded midfielder
- A centre back

Dier does the dirty work, but also reads the game well and has a decent pass on him. Getting him as a DM is a good option. He's no Sergio Busquets but hes solid and young.
 
Jaybomb said:
Hulk and Ramires would suit us more than Belotti or Morata would.
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You can't possibly genuinely believe that...

Hulk has shown time and time again in his career that the only thing that motivates him is money. He's had offers from the best clubs in the world, but has always opted for the cushy paycheck. I honestly can't think of many players in world football I'd be less interested in. As for Ramires, he was a good player in his day, but he's now 30, and clearly he doesn't think he's got it anymore because he also chose a cushy payday. I have no interest in any player who chose China over Europe, ever.

Belotti and Morata meanwhile are two of the best young strikers in Europe. Neither would be the star men here, but they'd both compliment Griezmann excellently, and for that reason alone they'd be perfect for us. They do tend to score a lot of goals too.
 
I don't fancy James Rodriguez as I just don't think he'd be a success here, he's obviously got alot of talent but south American attackers are very hit and miss in the prem and especially in the cruel North.

Someone I didn't fancy at first was Lukaku but now I think id be quite happy if we got a decent flat track bully like him to bang goals in against the minnows we always struggled against.
 
Mr Smith said:
You can't possibly genuinely believe that...

Hulk has shown time and time again in his career that the only thing that motivates him is money. He's had offers from the best clubs in the world, but has always opted for the cushy paycheck. I honestly can't think of many players in world football I'd be less interested in. As for Ramires, he was a good player in his day, but he's now 30, and clearly he doesn't think he's got it anymore because he also chose a cushy payday. I have no interest in any player who chose China over Europe, ever.

Belotti and Morata meanwhile are two of the best young strikers in Europe. Neither would be the star men here, but they'd both compliment Griezmann excellently, and for that reason alone they'd be perfect for us. They do tend to score a lot of goals too.
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Newsflash. Everyone plays for money. Chances are, he will want to play in England before his career ends and we're no strangers to signing mercenaries who are arguably past it. Look at Falcao and Schweinsteiger. Ibra is in that category too but he has shown his class at United unlike the other two and I think Hulk would easily do the same. He's made for the Premier League and will sell a ton of jerseys. He's that Ronaldo/Nani type winger we've been crying out for. Someone who can cut inside and blast one from 30 yards. I don't think it will happen but personally I would love to see him in a United shirt.

Ramires is younger than Matuidi, who we've been heavily linked with. Plus he's lightening quick and can drive the ball forward from one half to another.

I think you're stereotyping them and writing them off purely cause they chose to join an exciting new league. They would clearly still get into a lot of European clubs. As would Oscar, Jackson Martinez, Tevez and Paulinho.
 
Jaybomb said:
Newsflash. Everyone plays for money. Chances are, he will want to play in England before his career ends and we're no strangers to signing mercenaries who are arguably past it. Look at Falcao and Schweinsteiger. Ibra is in that category too but he has shown his class at United unlike the other two and I think Hulk would easily do the same. He's made for the Premier League and will sell a ton of jerseys. He's that Ronaldo/Nani type winger we've been crying out for. Someone who can cut inside and blast one from 30 yards. I don't think it will happen but personally I would love to see him in a United shirt.

Ramires is younger than Matuidi, who we've been heavily linked with. Plus he's lightening quick and can drive the ball forward from one half to another.

I think you're stereotyping them and writing them off purely cause they chose to join an exciting new league. They would clearly still get into a lot of European clubs. As would Oscar, Jackson Martinez, Tevez and Paulinho.
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:lol: I can't believe this is an opinion you actually hold. I'm kind of hoping you're a wum and you don't actually believe the rubbish you're spouting.

How you can think Hulk is the player we've been "crying out for" is beyond me. To compare him to Nani (who is still working hard and plying his trade in a serious league) let alone Ronaldo is a travesty. Any time Hulk has come up against serious opposition he's looked average (see Brazil 2014). Hulk is the definition of an average player who has been made to look better by playing in an average league. Of course all players play for money, but the paychecks Hulk has taken demonstrate beyond doubt that he is a player without ambition. By the way, pointing out that we're not beyond signing mercinaries who are arguably past it does not indicate that we should sign more; in fact, it indicates the opposite.

You don't seem to understand that playing at a higher level does make you better. The players you have mentioned look like world-beaters in China because they're playing against average players, and that will erode their own fitness and ability to play at a higher level over time. As for the likes of Jackson Martinez and Paulinho, they also sold out to China in the prime of their career, proving themselves players of weak mentality with no ambition. Jackson Martinez in particular had offers from the best in Europe. Do not want.
 
Mr Smith said:
:lol: I can't believe this is an opinion you actually hold. I'm kind of hoping you're a wum and you don't actually believe the rubbish you're spouting.

How you can think Hulk is the player we've been "crying out for" is beyond me. To compare him to Nani (who is still working hard and plying his trade in a serious league) let alone Ronaldo is a travesty. Any time Hulk has come up against serious opposition he's looked average (see Brazil 2014). Hulk is the definition of an average player who has been made to look better by playing in an average league. Of course all players play for money, but the paychecks Hulk has taken demonstrate beyond doubt that he is a player without ambition. By the way, pointing out that we're not beyond signing mercinaries who are arguably past it does not indicate that we should sign more; in fact, it indicates the opposite.

You don't seem to understand that playing at a higher level does make you better. The players you have mentioned look like world-beaters in China because they're playing against average players, and that will erode their own fitness and ability to play at a higher level over time. As for the likes of Jackson Martinez and Paulinho, they also sold out to China in the prime of their career, proving themselves players of weak mentality with no ambition. Jackson Martinez in particular had offers from the best in Europe. Do not want.
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You can't say Hulk only looks good against poor opposition when he was absolutely smashing it in the Champions League last season.
 
Eric Dier.

Sorry but I've watched Spurs plenty this year and he just screams average. Pochettino has got performances out of him but he is limited. Not a player I want to pay a big fee + English tax for.
 
Lindelof
James Rodriguez
Anyone Portuguese apart from Ronaldo
Perisic for any more than about £30m
 
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I trust Mourinho's judgement about players. What I am concerned about is the fee. Perisic for 20-30m makes sense. However it would be silly to spend 40m-50m on him. Same with Dier. I wouldn't mind if United bought him up for 30m-40m. Things get silly if we buy him up for 70m.
 
Micheal Keane. He is on the same level as most of our defenders bar Bailiy. The only positive he can bring is better fitness level it seems.

Belotti. I would love him here because he is a gladiator and a good poacher but not as first choice. Rather we look at lukaku first before we get Belotti. It would be hard to see Griezman and Belotti working together. Griezman needs a player with good link up play to get the best out of him.

Perisc. No point signing him unless we switched to a three in a back system or he plans to play backup to Martial. I believe as a wide left attack, we could do better for that price range. I rather we look at a left back first and give the left side attacking role to either Martial or Rashford to strengthen their development.

Mhkitaryan - Griezman - Martial/Rashford
Lukaku(Belotti)​
 
I can't get excited about the Micheal Keane rumours. I don't know where he fits since we have 4 perfectly good CBs

Yes we all get frustrated at Jones' injury problems and Smalling sometimes looks like a giraffe on roller skates but I am not convinces Keane is a better player than either

Bailly is the most promising CB in Europe imo and Rojo was an absolute beast last season

Plus, don't forget we have Blind, Tuanzabe and even Darmian and Fosu Mensah who can play CB so I don't want us signing purely to cover injuries
 
People actually say we shouldn't buy Aurier.

So, in a defence consisted of mediocre players*, we still trust Valencia over Aurier.
Even if Aurier is worse than Valencia, who had one good season after so many failures, people say we don't need Aurier. In a squad consisted of 2 right full backs (Valencia and the non-existent ghost called Darmian) people say we don't need Aurier. Cause you know, CHL and bullshit like this doesn't matter anymore. And, you know, if we buy an attacking minded full-back like Aurier who can actually cross the ball and add him to a squad which is dependent on Valencia's work-rate, that would be soooooo bad for Manchester United. Anyway, we win the lesser mid-table teams without needing any help from the defence... yeah... right.
Our defence is full of shit! Buy proper full backs ASAP!
 
Mr Smith said:
:lol: I can't believe this is an opinion you actually hold. I'm kind of hoping you're a wum and you don't actually believe the rubbish you're spouting.

How you can think Hulk is the player we've been "crying out for" is beyond me. To compare him to Nani (who is still working hard and plying his trade in a serious league) let alone Ronaldo is a travesty. Any time Hulk has come up against serious opposition he's looked average (see Brazil 2014). Hulk is the definition of an average player who has been made to look better by playing in an average league. Of course all players play for money, but the paychecks Hulk has taken demonstrate beyond doubt that he is a player without ambition. By the way, pointing out that we're not beyond signing mercinaries who are arguably past it does not indicate that we should sign more; in fact, it indicates the opposite.

You don't seem to understand that playing at a higher level does make you better. The players you have mentioned look like world-beaters in China because they're playing against average players, and that will erode their own fitness and ability to play at a higher level over time. As for the likes of Jackson Martinez and Paulinho, they also sold out to China in the prime of their career, proving themselves players of weak mentality with no ambition. Jackson Martinez in particular had offers from the best in Europe. Do not want.
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Spot on. Hulk is the sort of player City would have bought when Hughes was in charge after Sheikh Mansour bought them. He is a mercenary and 30 years old no less so he doesn't at all fit into our transfer philosophy.
 
For me, out of all the proper links, it's still just Keane. Would be Sanches too, but I don't think there's any actual, significant links to him.
 
Keane and Sanchez are a big no-no for me. Backwards signings

Could also include Lindelof in that aswell but If he's for a reasonable price then I wouldn't mind him as a squad player
 
Do not want for sure : Perisic, Matic
Maybe for the right price but probably not: James, Keane, Belotti
 
Peresic

He's probably a decent player but turning 29 this season for a winger who'll cost around 50m is terrible business.

I'd rather go for the younger and cheaper Douglas Costa.
 
Personally I liked Morata as an affordable foil to Griezmann. They would be a good forward line with a few years ahead of them, direct replacement and leg up on Zlatan and Rooney.

If we don't have a second striker of that calibre, and are even looking to add a genuine wide man in perisic, then I'm less sold on Morata would would prefer lukaku or belotti to try get on the end of crosses.

So Morata is probably in the 'dont want' column if we are going the direction appear to be going
 
Pepe.
Good defender, horrible person, worse than Costa.
nonononono!
 
Pretty much every player we have been linked with this Summer so far. Only really James I would be pretty happy with us signing, and even then that doesn't excite me so much as that means we will be playing with one striker again next season.

Just really hoping we are working on deals under the radar. Be no better feeling then seeing us announce the signing of a class player out of the blue.
 
Pepe on a free...If Mou brought him in I don't think I could handle it.

Pretty much most of who we are linked with. Perisic, Matic, Morata, Lindelof, Lukaku to some extent, and others

The only one that I was remotely excited about was Griezmann. Atletico had to go and get banned. So far not a lot of news to get excited about. Many of these that we are linked with either prefer other clubs or I prefer them to go to other clubs.
 
People who don't want Lukaku or Belotti are mental both absolute monsters in front of goal. Belotti scores so many headers for a small player his positioning is class.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
We're running out of players to not want.
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I've just reviewed the 9 pages of this thread which contain over 50 players we do not want to see!I would imagine they include Jose's 1st,2nd and 3rd choices for each position he is seeking so it will be interesting to see the outcome.
 
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