As the thread suggests it’s a opinion that others don’t agree with. I know from talking to most people who rate him world class I’m in the minority but I still don’t see it. Great player but nowhere near as high as he is rated
Player’s You Don’t Rate As Highly As Others
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There's more appropriate threads for the Bruno chat.
Thiago has never convinced me. Not now, not during his time at Bayern or with the Spanish team.
From the past, Djalminha was very showy, but he was a "TV player". Very good against Madrid but not very efficient against smaller teams.
Other very good players that maybe I would downgrade a little bit:
Morientes (clumsy), Hierro (when he got excited used to forget about his back), Puyol (a bit deified for his passion/to be a good captain, but no so good with the ball),
From the past, Djalminha was very showy, but he was a "TV player". Very good against Madrid but not very efficient against smaller teams.
Other very good players that maybe I would downgrade a little bit:
Morientes (clumsy), Hierro (when he got excited used to forget about his back), Puyol (a bit deified for his passion/to be a good captain, but no so good with the ball),
Remember we didn’t sign him in the summer and the talk was we didn’t like the way he gave away the ball so much ? I can see where people are coming from he is vital for us but feel he wouldn’t stand out at say City that much where keeping the ball is more the priority.
My cousin hit the nail on the head when having a good game he will make 3/10 through balls and end up with a assist or 2 and a goal. But when he is off them through balls will be 1/10 and he will stand out as the worst on the pitch
Yeah, I was thinking of Lampard as well.
He mainly played as a goalscoring #10, as his best asset was getting in and around the box to shoot at goal but he lacked the pace to do that effectively from CM so played further forward but more as a goalscorer than a creator in open play and was pretty selfish for a midfielder and attempted loads of shots (he delivered good set pieces for assists).
In the 'Gerrard and Lampard can't play together conundrum', Gerrard was a more complete midfielder and a team player so was more capable of playing as the more defensive minded one, or filling in out wide. While Lampard was a more one dimensional player who could only really play that one role as a goalscoring #10 looking to get endless shots at goal.
Robertson. Definitely a player that Klopps system makes look a lot better than he is.
Jadon Sancho
Fabregas. Never understood the hype.
Mental. Terry had top tier partnerships with Gallas, Carvalho, Alex and even Gary Cahill so the idea that he was being carried by others is bit convenient. He consistently boasted great defensive records across multiple different CB partners and managers for a decade, winning league titles and consistently reaching the latter stages of the champions league.
Terrible myth persists on here that if you ever make a block or a tackle then you must have made a mistake first.
Bruno
Peter Crouch. People fecking love to praise him cause he 'had good touch for a big man', scored some amazing goals and is a funny bloke but he was barely Premier League standard.
De Bruyne
Gerrard. Good player but never one of the top midfielders in the world.
Neymar, Fabregas, De Bruyne, Eto'o... Christ, to think these are the same people that watch Fred and McTominay ball every week.
What Bruno chat?
Although this is semi off topic (but has some sort of relevance as this thread is about overrated but still good) I do shake my head a bit when it's widely thought Terry/Carvalho was our top partnership of that era. I mean don't get me wrong they were ace but the Terry/Gallas partnership was insane, if my memory serves me correct they conceded just once in 21 games as a CB partnership at one point.
No idea if that's true but I feel the need to add your defensive stats in those days were massively flattered by Cech being about as good as any keeper has ever been in this league.
Blasphemy. I’m on the opposite side think he is the best no10 in the PL over the years. His weight of pass is just second to none
The reason Terry/Carvalho is so high is they conceded 15 goals in 38 PL games. This is a record that will never get near being touched. Doesn’t mean they were better just that record alone makes it so highly rated
David Silva was a better player than him in my opinion.
Gerrard.
Messi, Maradonna, the two Brazillian Ronaldos, the Portugese one and Zidane.
One of these is correct.
You meant this for “greatest players of all time” thread but we will let you away with it
Agree.
Who did Jesus Christ play for? Must have been before my time
Harsh on Zidane but i agree
David Silva was one of the greatest I’ve seen but still think DeByurne is higher and will be considered when all said and done. Though it is close
You head in from a couple of corners and all of a sudden you're a GOAT contender.
Rivaldo
Crikey
As a ten or an advanced attacking midfielder Gerrard was a real force and genuinely world class but I never thought he was a great central midfielder. Just seemed to lack the discipline for the metronome role or the awareness.
I know I've seen Terry have some amazing games where I thought he was impeccable over 90minutes, but I can't name any of them.
Yea but what does that mean though? You may as well add Paul Scholes to this thread on the basis that he lacked qualities to play on the left. If you agree that Gerrard was a ‘real force and genuinely world class’ in his main role, then he probably doesn’t belong.
Honestly, I was thrilled when I googled and that came up.
When we went on the run without conceding (was the record before United broke it a few years later) it was Terry and Gallas playing most of it, likewise the start of the following season when we didn't concede till like matchday 7.
Ronaldinho. Great couple of years, didn't have anywhere close to the longevity that I want in my all-time players yet many feel completely comfortable putting him in the top 5 of all-time.
Basically, we can list some of the greats of football in this thread, Eto’o, Terry, Gerrard, Bergkamp etc but not Bruno.