Play Diego tonight

Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>You're contradicting yourself Murt. You said he should have a run of starts behind RVN.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I said it would be nice to see him have a run in the first team, cause i believe if he did it could work well. I never said he should be played at Olles expense.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>And yet you are advocating that we should buy a striker no matter what the circumstances are be it cuptied etc
So much for panic buying</strong><hr></blockquote>

My problem with you is that your constantly harping on about players you want to replace current players yet if we were to sign Eidur and it didnt work out after 5 starts and a few 10 minute runs would you start slagging him and want the latest young startlet instead.
Diego had a great record before Utd, as good as any of your heroes. If he had flopped in your eyeys whats to say that no other will?
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>

I've always advocated we needed at least one more striker. I never advocated we needed an entirely new defence though. Shall we unearth some of your threads from last year...Panic Buyer ? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah always that digging out of old quotes just out of spite eh? what does this thread have to do with the defence anyway? admit it, you don't like criticisms levelled at the team because you can't take your blinkered specs off
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

Ah always that digging out of old quotes just out of spite eh? what does this thread have to do with the defence anyway? admit it, you don't like criticisms levelled at the team because you can't take your blinkered specs off</strong><hr></blockquote>

Are you saying that the quotes you've made in the past are less relevant today because they've been exposed to be full of shit since you made them ? Nice.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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I said it would be nice to see him have a run in the first team, cause i believe if he did it could work well. I never said he should be played at Olles expense.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Not just Ole. Scholes as well. Both of whom are more important to the squad than Diego - at this moment.

I agree that it would be nice for him to have a run. And if he can prove himself, there should be no problem with that.

But first off he needs to hit the back of the net a few times - preferably by coming on when we're comfortably ahead, thereby having no pressure. Until he can do that, I wouldn't feel happy relying on him to win us points.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Are you saying that the quotes you've made in the past are less relevant today because they've been exposed to be full of shit since you made them ? Nice.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's also "nice" of you to pick out topics which have no relation whatsoever to do with this thread.

If you are looking for a fight, go find someone else bozo.
 
Originally posted by Jason F:
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I think he is a bit overrated myself, we already have OGS and RVN who are similar to Eidur, i would like to see a blazingly fast striker and a link up man like Teddy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed..

we need someone with pace and dribbling skills.. Eidur doesn't have any of those abilities.. he;s a good player..but way of overrated.. Ole's a better player.IMO.

i'd rather see someone like, Cisse, Ronaldhino or Aimar.. upfront.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

It's also "nice" of you to pick out topics which have no relation whatsoever to do with this thread.

If you are looking for a fight, go find someone else bozo.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Milan did not play CHEV at all, do you read anything into it guys? ;)
 
I think Diego’s going to get a nice little run of games the next couple of weeks with the 2 European matches and the Worthington Cup coming up. Counting yesterday’s match, that’s 4 games. I think we’ll have a better idea of what he’s capable of in a couple weeks time.

My concern with Diego, besides the fact that he’s having a hard time scoring, is that he doesn’t seem to have that striker’s instinct in the box. Last night early on, he could have tried for a shot on goal. Instead, he laid it off for someone else and I’ve noticed that he seems to have a tendency to do that. (Could never see Ole/Ruud doing the same thing in the same situation). Great strikers are normally selfish…but in a good way. They’ll always take the chance themselves if they’ve got a half decent chance because they believe they’re going to score. I don’t know if it’s simply a lack of confidence with Diego right now or not. Hopefully, that’s the case.

I think that Diego does do some things very well though. He links up play well, he made a beautiful back heel pass to Scholes last night and with his pace can always trouble defenders. If he doesn’t work out as a striker, I still think he’d be a good squad player as a backup for Beckham and Giggs.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Nice grammar. Are you friends with George W ? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


Now it's nitpicking about grammar, are you a grouchy old granny?
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by ALGred:
<strong>Milan did not play CHEV at all, do you read anything into it guys? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Because he's injured.

The question is was chev registered for Milan's CL squad?

If he is, then he's cup-tied.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>

My problem with you is that your constantly harping on about players you want to replace current players yet if we were to sign Eidur and it didnt work out after 5 starts and a few 10 minute runs would you start slagging him and want the latest young startlet instead.
Diego had a great record before Utd, as good as any of your heroes. If he had flopped in your eyeys whats to say that no other will?</strong><hr></blockquote>

So you are saying that diego is as good as EG?

Shows how much football you have watched, I rest my case.... <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Because he's injured.

The question is was chev registered for Milan's CL squad?

If he is, then he's cup-tied.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes he was registered for Milan's CL squad. And no he isn't cup tied as he hasn't played yet.
 
Originally posted by osterdal:
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Yes he was registered for Milan's CL squad. And no he isn't cup tied as he hasn't played yet.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think the rules state that as long as the player is registered, he's already cup-tied - can anyone verify this?
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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I think the rules state that as long as the player is registered, he's already cup-tied - can anyone verify this?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I can verify that you're wrong:

<a href="http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf</a>

Paragraph 15.10 says this:

In the course of a season, a player is eligble to play only for one single club in the UEFA club competitions (excluding the first three rounds of the UEFA Intertoto Cup). Exceptionally, if a player fulfils the two following conditions he may play for another club which is also taking part in that season's UEFA club competitions.

a) The player has not been fielded för any UEFA club competition matches by the first club in question (The fact that his name may have appeared on a Match Sheet does not mean that he actually played. Only his registration by the referee as having been fielded counts in this respect.)

b) The player concerned is eligble to play for the other club by the deadlines set in paragraph 15.02, and he is registred with UEFA in accordance with the aforementioned procedure.
 
Originally posted by osterdal:
<strong>

I can verify that you're wrong:

<a href="http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf</a>

Paragraph 15.10 says this:

In the course of a season, a player is eligble to play only for one single club in the UEFA club competitions (excluding the first three rounds of the UEFA Intertoto Cup). Exceptionally, if a player fulfils the two following conditions he may play for another club which is also taking part in that season's UEFA club competitions.

a) The player has not been fielded för any UEFA club competition matches by the first club in question (The fact that his name may have appeared on a Match Sheet does not mean that he actually played. Only his registration by the referee as having been fielded counts in this respect.)

b) The player concerned is eligble to play for the other club by the deadlines set in paragraph 15.02, and he is registred with UEFA in accordance with the aforementioned procedure.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well thanks mate!
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>So you are saying that diego is as good as EG?
Shows how much football you have watched, I rest my case.... <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Diego has a pre Man utd goals record of 1 in 3, EG has a pre Utd record of 1 in 3! Im saying that had we not signed Diego you would have been on here whinging like a two yr old "Diego Forlan is argentinas top scorerm, where are our scouts, Martin Ferguson is useless, sack fergie who has no vision".
Answer my question , if EG signed for Utd in January and started 5 games and and few sub appearances without scoring a goal would you turn on him too?
Fuchin sunshine supporters <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
Originally posted by osterdal:
<strong>I can verify that you're wrong:</strong><hr></blockquote>

another case of itchy talking out of his arse <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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Diego has a pre Man utd goals record of 1 in 3, EG has a pre Utd record of 1 in 3! Im saying that had we not signed Diego you would have been on here whinging like a two yr old "Diego Forlan is argentinas top scorerm, where are our scouts, Martin Ferguson is useless, sack fergie who has no vision".
Answer my question , if EG signed for Utd in January and started 5 games and and few sub appearances without scoring a goal would you turn on him too?
Fuchin sunshine supporters <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

If you have cared to look at the details, EG has proven himself in the Premiership and at international level.

So scoring a few goals in an inferior league = EG's scoring record for Chelsea?

You're probably the only one around here who thinks forlan is the equal of Eidur!

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>

another case of itchy talking out of his arse <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Anything for a swipe at me eh?

Pathetic.

If you have cared to look at the conversation between me and osterdal, I merely asked him if he could verify a certain uefa ruling on cup-tied players - there was no animosity between him and me.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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If you have cared to look at the conversation between me and osterdal, I merely asked him if he could verify a certain uefa ruling on cup-tied players - there was no animosity between him and me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You never asked him shit, you said something and he showed you were wrong.
See the picture below, thats you that is
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
42_journalistik.jpg
 
<a href="http://www.redcafe.info/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001419&p=2" target="_blank">http://www.redcafe.info/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001419&p=2</a>

Follow the "conversation", blinkered turd.

You're really one to stick a knife into me any chance you got eh murtle?

Pathetic amoeba that you are :rolleyes:
 
EG was in the same PSV side as ronaldo but got badly injured and really has shown a great amount of skill and ability to recover. He has shown he is a good player at chelsea but not sure whether he has proven any more than forlan. Forlan isnt a forward either so you cant really compare
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>

If you have cared to look at the details, EG has proven himself in the Premiership and at international level.
So scoring a few goals in an inferior league = EG's scoring record for Chelsea?
You're probably the only one around here who thinks forlan is the equal of Eidur!
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Listen tosspot <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
I am not commenting on the abilities of either player, ive asked you the following question roufhly 4 times and you keep tapdancing your way out of it.

Answer my question , if EG signed for Utd in January and started 5 games and and few sub appearances without scoring a goal would you turn on him too?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>

Listen tosspot <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
I am not commenting on the abilities of either player, ive asked you the following question roufhly 4 times and you keep tapdancing your way out of it.

Answer my question , if EG signed for Utd in January and started 5 games and and few sub appearances without scoring a goal would you turn on him too?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who cares about your question? You haven't answered mine anyway in previous postings.

So I'll just keep dangling you on.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

By the way, EG is a better striker than Forlan, thought you might like to know that ;)
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Who cares about your question? You haven't answered mine anyway in previous postings.
So I'll just keep dangling you on.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
By the way, EG is a better striker than Forlan, thought you might like to know that ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ive never said eidur wasnt better striker that Diego. Im just saying that if he signed for us things would not be guaranteed to go well for him and am wondering how you would react to that.
Youd answer the question if you wernt embaressed of your answer.
Its an embaresment to the majority of us that you claim to be a utd fan, you really tarnish the name of Utd fans.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>

Youd answer the question if you wernt embaressed of your answer.
Its an embaresment to the majority of us that you claim to be a utd fan, you really tarnish the name of Utd fans.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I see.

So if a fan claims that players like forlan are the best things since sliced bread, that makes
him or her a true fan in your eyes?

seriously murt I really am not interested in a quarrel with you, why not just accept the fact that people can have differing opinions?
 
lchk and Murt attack each other viciously with handbags as per.....
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>if a fan claims that players like forlan are the best things since sliced bread, that makes
him or her a true fan in your eyes?</strong>

No, ive never claimed him to be brilliant for starters. My problem with you and Forlan is that you had basically given up on him over the summer after he had started just 3 games! You never gave him a fair go and you want him out and the next man in. Please answer my question, if Eidur had a similar start to Utd life how would you react? Your expectations are unrealistic and makes me believe that you havnt been a fan of football for very long.

seriously murt I really am not interested in a quarrel with you, why not just accept the fact that people can have differing opinions?<hr></blockquote>

Its not your opinion, its your attitude. Im not trying to make you think Diego is brilliant an Eidur shite. Diego has started just 5 games for Utd, if we signed Eidur he could very possibly do the same or even worse. we both know the answer to the above question and thats what annoys me about you.
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>lchk and Murt attack each other viciously with handbags as per.....</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think we are both acting foolishly so I might as well cut it out
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>I think we are both acting foolishly so I might as well cut it out</strong><hr></blockquote>
I dont think im acting foolishly so that leaves just you. Do the decent thing and answer the questions?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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I dont think im acting foolishly so that leaves just you. Do the decent thing and answer the questions?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You still want to continue this senseless argument?

Buzz off
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>You still want to continue this senseless argument?
Buzz off</strong><hr></blockquote>
Its not senseless, just answer the question ive put to you 5 or 6 times now.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>
Its not senseless, just answer the question ive put to you 5 or 6 times now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why should I?

You must be really desperate about it while ignoring the questions I posed to you earlier in this thread.

I'll just keep you waiting.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Why should I?

You must be really desperate about it while ignoring the questions I posed to you earlier in this thread.

I'll just keep you waiting.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

right, ask me one and afteri answer it you answer mine, fair?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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right, ask me one and afteri answer it you answer mine, fair?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hahaha I just love this

Nah I am not interested in you answering my earlier questions anymore

Now excuse me while I head off to the gym for my workout and you just hang on in here till I decide whether to answer your turdish question or not

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Hahaha I just love this
Nah I am not interested in you answering my earlier questions anymore
Now excuse me while I head off to the gym for my workout and you just hang on in here till I decide whether to answer your turdish question or not <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

What earlier questions have i not answered?