Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang| ESPN: Move to PSG very close

Mehhhh. Not a massive fan. He's lethal right now, of course, and fast as feck, but even if his current form is a long-term thing, he's too similar to Martial. We should be looking for the more traditional all-round CF for the pace man to play off from either side. A Benzema, effectively. Although ideally with less blackmail.
 
Mehhhh. Not a massive fan. He's lethal right now, of course, and fast as feck, but even if his current form is a long-term thing, he's too similar to Martial. We should be looking for the more traditional all-round CF for the pace man to play off from either side. A Benzema, effectively. Although ideally with less blackmail.

Sorry but turn down a player that's scores 52 goals in the last 73 games over the past 18 months is crazy. Especially when we're struggling to score the way we are.
 
Mehhhh. Not a massive fan. He's lethal right now, of course, and fast as feck, but even if his current form is a long-term thing, he's too similar to Martial. We should be looking for the more traditional all-round CF for the pace man to play off from either side. A Benzema, effectively. Although ideally with less blackmail.

In his current form he should be starting for every club that takes itself even remotely serious.

You can take your nose up for him if you got a player like Messi or Ronaldo to score your goals upfront but not the 5 goal miracle Martial.
 
Never heard of him, obviously I don't watch German football enough.

Not against getting in a striker but would be nice to get somebody a little more established if it's to help out Martial/Rooney.

Kagawa despite doing well in Germany didn't look up to much here. Firmino is another one who was scoring for fun in Germany. Huge difference in the level of talent needed to succeed in England obviously.


Firmino scored 16 goals in one season of his 4 seasons as starter. The other 3 seasons he scored 7 goals twice and 5 goals. Not exactly what I'd call scoring for fun.

It's fine to not know anything about BuLi, but then don't draw conclusions. Especially with players like Fuchs and Okazaki mixing things up in top 4 :lol:
 
It's funny how picky some of you are - this guy is better than every attacker we have right now and is in the form/prime of his career. He is confident and scoring for fun, we can't score goals I don't see why you wouldn't all want him?!
 
Never heard of him, obviously I don't watch German football enough.

Not against getting in a striker but would be nice to get somebody a little more established if it's to help out Martial/Rooney.

Kagawa despite doing well in Germany didn't look up to much here. Firmino is another one who was scoring for fun in Germany. Huge difference in the level of talent needed to succeed in England obviously.
Why say so much about something you admit you have no idea about?
 
Firmino scored 16 goals in one season of his 4 seasons as starter. The other 3 seasons he scored 7 goals twice and 5 goals. Not exactly what I'd call scoring for fun.

It's fine to not know anything about BuLi, but then don't draw conclusions. Especially with players like Fuchs and Okazaki mixing things up in top 4 :lol:

Whatever way you put it he has struggled compares to his form in Germany.

I draw my conclusions based on past experience of players who haven't been as good when they move here from Germany. I'm not saying he isn't a good player or that LVG shouldn't be trusted but my point was more that we need somebody who is proven in this league as buying players from abroad is a gamble we can't afford.
 
Whatever way you put it he has struggled compares to his form in Germany.

I draw my conclusions based on past experience of players who haven't been as good when they move here from Germany. I'm not saying he isn't a good player or that LVG shouldn't be trusted but my point was more that we need somebody who is proven in this league as buying players from abroad is a gamble we can't afford.
Fair enough. You'd not be getting Aubameyang anyway, midseason from Dortmund where he has another 3,5 years of contract. It's all silly season stuff.
 
Why say so much about something you admit you have no idea about?

What am I saying that is wrong?

Kagawa was a disaster. The early excitement over Firmino is well and truly gone. Barring Bayern the German league is nowhere near the level of the EPL?
 
What am I saying that is wrong?

Kagawa was a disaster. The early excitement over Firmino is well and truly gone. Barring Bayern the German league is nowhere near the level of the EPL?

Excellent assessment from someone who admittedly doesn't watch the league at all.
 
Never heard of him, obviously I don't watch German football enough.

Not against getting in a striker but would be nice to get somebody a little more established if it's to help out Martial/Rooney.

Kagawa despite doing well in Germany didn't look up to much here. Firmino is another one who was scoring for fun in Germany. Huge difference in the level of talent needed to succeed in England obviously.

What am I saying that is wrong?

Kagawa was a disaster. The early excitement over Firmino is well and truly gone. Barring Bayern the German league is nowhere near the level of the EPL?
:lol: That's just brilliant: You obviously do not watch enough German football.
 
I reckon he missed training the last days to buy the suit and get a new coiffe.

 
The only player I want right now.

Martial-Aubameyang
Young-Schmidfield-Mata

Throw in Memphis, Lingard, Januzaj, and Rooney.

Could be a lethal goal threat.
 
In his current form he should be starting for every club that takes itself even remotely serious.

You can take your nose up for him if you got a player like Messi or Ronaldo to score your goals upfront but not the 5 goal miracle Martial.
God forbid we'd try and develop our own talented player who is performing to a high standard at 20 instead of spunking £70m on Auba.
 
God forbid we'd try and develop our own talented player who is performing to a high standard at 20 instead of spunking £70m on Auba.

God forbid we do both and actual started scoring some goals and winning some matches
 
Excellent assessment from someone who admittedly doesn't watch the league at all.

:lol: That's just brilliant: You obviously do not watch enough German football.

I don't watch the league as it's a foregone conclusion Bayern are so far ahead of the rest.

Anybody trying to argue to German league is the same level as the EPL is clearly biased.
 
I'd understand the arrogance towards other leagues if it was still 2008, United still had immense quality in attack and did well in Europe. It really looks a bit silly at the moment though. But yes, I guess the PL proven tag has been such a huge success when United signed attacking players in recent years, it makes a lot more sense to look for the next Mata, Young or Fellaini instead.
 
He is a really good player, really fast... However, I think he is a bit similar to Martial. I would prefer someone like Lukaku/Kane because they offer something different. For Dortmund I would prefer to sign Gundogan, mainly because he finishes contract in 2017 so he could be cheaper.
 
I don't watch the league as it's a foregone conclusion Bayern are so far ahead of the rest.

Anybody trying to argue to German league is the same level as the EPL is clearly biased.
I didn't think you could top your posts but the above is far beyond brilliant! :lol::lol::lol:
 
And what does that make you, not having watched the league?

I've watched the league i've watched German teams for over 20 years and even then my memories of it is just Bayern being miles ahead of the rest.

If you are telling me the league has come on so far in the last couple of years it's now as good as the EPL your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't look like much has changed to me.
 
I've watched the league i've watched German teams for over 20 years and even then my memories of it is just Bayern being miles ahead of the rest.

If you are telling me the league has come on so far in the last couple of years it's now as good as the EPL your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't look like much has changed to me.
You'll find yourself in the minority then.
The cash influx might make things lopsided from next year onward but as things stand, the EPL isn't really superior to the Bundesliga.
 
You'll find yourself in the minority then.
The cash influx might make things lopsided from next year onward but as things stand, the EPL isn't really superior to the Bundesliga.
The main difference is that the EPL has no side that moved so far ahead as Bayern did and therefore you have competition for the title and top4, we have competition just for top 2-4.
If Mark had just cared to watch Champions League with an inconsistent Wolfsburg side against United, a struggling Gladbach side against City, Leverkusen against Lazio (qualfiers), Roma or Barcelona he maybe willing to admit that his view is a teeny weeny bit biased.
 
So Bayern don't win it nearly every year?
This question already shows that your criteria are totally off. Bayern would walk the EPL with ease. Every single year.
 
I've watched the league i've watched German teams for over 20 years and even then my memories of it is just Bayern being miles ahead of the rest.

If you are telling me the league has come on so far in the last couple of years it's now as good as the EPL your entitled to your opinion but it doesn't look like much has changed to me.

I´m confused. Who has actually claimed that? The EPL is right now more competive at the top than the Bundesliga. However, the current Bayern squad would also run away with the title in this years EPL. Borussia Dortmund (the team the player of this thread plays for) would be a title contender based on current form (which is more than what can be said about United right now).

There is a difference between claiming one league slightly superior and dismissing a players quality because of a league. This is not the freaking Erendivisie but an European top league. Aubameyang is one of the best players and for every single time the name Kagawa is stated (who did not function because of way more than the difference of the leagues) you can just name Kevin de Bruyne, who is certainly not doing that badly for a former Bundeslgia top player.
 
I'd understand the arrogance towards other leagues if it was still 2008, United still had immense quality in attack and did well in Europe. It really looks a bit silly at the moment though. But yes, I guess the PL proven tag has been such a huge success when United signed attacking players in recent years, it makes a lot more sense to look for the next Mata, Young or Fellaini instead.

Pl proven isn't everything but when you are looking for a striker to guarantee you goals and take some pressure of Martial/Rooney it doesn't make much sense to go for somebody unproven when they are strikers in the league we could buy who can guarantee us a lot more.

Mata, Fellaini I don't think many people would have went for anyway but in general buying PL proven players in the past has served us well. Young has done well enough i'm glad we have him at the moment. Gave us more than Kagawa did anyway.
 
AUBA WON the African Player of the Year 2015! Well deserved!
 
Friends, we desperately need a second goal scorer. If that player can also create chances and be an all-around forward, all the better, but we need someone else who can take the pressure off Martial. Anthony gets double-marked all the time and in any event if/when he goes out with injury right now we're completely fekked.

I'm still sticking with Greizmann as my first choice attacking player -- I assume Bale/Ronaldo/Neymar aint gonna happen -- but if Antoine is not in the cards then I'd be intrigued by a pure goal scorer with pace. Apart from Anthony we're way too slow up front.
 
This question already shows that your criteria are totally off. Bayern would walk the EPL with ease. Every single year.

Yep in the last few years this is true. Previous to that no they wouldn't have. Yet it's been a Bayern dominated league for as long as I can remember.
 
I´m confused. Who has actually claimed that? The EPL is right now more competive at the top than the Bundesliga. However, the current Bayern squad would also run away with the title in this years EPL. Borussia Dortmund (the team the player of this thread plays for) would be a title contender based on current form (which is more than what can be said about United right now).

There is a difference between claiming one league slightly superior and dismissing a players quality because of a league. This is not the freaking Erendivisie but an European top league. Aubameyang is one of the best players and for every single time the name Kagawa is stated (who did not function because of way more than the difference of the leagues) you can just name Kevin de Bruyne, who is certainly not doing that badly for a former Bundeslgia top player.

I'm not dismissing him but we are crying out for a striker who can score goals. My point was that scoring goals and playing well in Germany as shown by certain players it can be hit or miss whether they can replicate that straight away in England.

We have Martial to be patient with what we need is someone who knows the league and will score goals from day one until Martial is ready to be relied on to get the goals. Buying a youngish player from a foreign league and the risks involved just doesn't make sense to me. But just my opinion.
 
Yep in the last few years this is true. Previous to that no they wouldn't have. Yet it's been a Bayern dominated league for as long as I can remember.
Then you might want to refresh your memory since ca. 2012/13. It's totally irrelevant what happened the years before: This is 2015/16 and the world moved on. Bayern outshine the Bundesliga and would also the EPL. This makes the title race in Germany boring but that is no indicator of how good a league is. Your statements are particularly funny because you admit you don't watch enough Bundesliga but say those who disagree with your conclusion are biased.

Whether or not Auba shines in the EPL remains to be seen until he moves there which, according to the man himself, will have to wait after a spell in La Liga.
 
Think I've read the same argument about 25 times now. And then another 50 times on other forums. It'll never change.

What's more, why would we try to PERSUADE people who are ignorant or dismissive about BuLi?
It really is their problem.