Philippe Coutinho Barcelona Player

Best thing Liverpool did was flog him for 100-plus. Bet they couldn't believe their luck.
 
He’s a fantastic example of why “net spend” is an absolutely bollocks stat.
 
He was so so bad. Hiding away tonight, forgot he was playing at times. Not seen much of Barcelona this season but if this is what he’s doing most weeks it’s not a surprise he’s getting crucified.
 
Worst transfer of all times?

I couldn't believe serious club like Barcelona would offer that kind of money for fecking Coutinho, but it turned out to be true. He is a decent player, but it was obvious he is playing at his peak for Liverpool and even that peak wasn't that good, and it was obvious that he is player for smaller teams that will have team built around him, allowing him to dwell on the ball, play everything through him and allow him ten shots per game, which will obviously never work for a team competing for throphies, and not we scored nicest goal trophy. Liverpool improved after his departure.

PSG mind-fecked them that summer, all rationality went out the window, and clubs took them for a ride with that world-record money in the bank.
 
He’s a fantastic example of why “net spend” is an absolutely bollocks stat.

Its not though. Coutinho was never worth anywhere near 140 million yet Barcelona panicked and most likely thought with regards to their image rather than what they actually need on the pitch.

Liverpool used the money very wisely and used it to revolutionise their team with VVD and Allison. They would obviously have been a better squad if they'd added those two and kept Coutinho as well.

Back to the point at hand, he looks utterly lost there.
 
Not worth 140M€, but he's a fantastic player nonetheless. Failing to impress at Real Madrid or Barça is quite a common thing even for some legendary players.
 
He struggles, but Barca is built around individual quality and the same patterns of play, meaning Messi-Suarez-Busquets-Alba and the rest are not really fitting in attacking wise. Same for Dembele. They are both low on confidence and cant get fully going, because they are not integrated in the system respectively Barca hasnt got one outside of Messi pulling the strings
 
I'm quietly hoping yesterday's atmosphere made him miss Liverpool so much that he comes back in the summer.
 
Just one of those good players who can't hack it at Madrid/Barca. I'm sure he'd be great for most other teams. Was brilliant in the prem I thought.
 
If it's any consolation I highly doubt he'd come to us even if we did want him, his links to Liverpool would prevent it I would imagine
 
One of the worst deals in the history of football.

The only thing his transfer has paid for is Liverpool’s UCL trophy.
 
So many player get over hyped because they can do some flashy stuff.
 
One of the worst deals in the history of football.

The only thing his transfer has paid for is Liverpool’s UCL trophy.

The one thing that I don't understand about Coutinho is why he plays when Dembélé is fit. Dembélé is in general a far bigger threat and he matches it with better outputs. I don't understand why Valverde insists on prioritizing Coutinho who is out of place in almost all the roles given to him in that Barcelona team.
 
He leaving was a blessing in disguise for Liverpool. Allowed their midfield to be more solid and workman like for the forwards. Mans has kicked on his absence too. While Barca would have been better off and £100m richer. Idiotic transfer.
 
Annyonying thing about his move to Barca is that it was obvious they were WAY over paying for him. By a ridiculous amount. One of the worst deals in football history. Gifted Liverpool 140 million.

That makes it twice this season that Barca have helped LIverpool win the CL.

Makes you think though, if dwellers on a football forum knew this, why didn't people at Barca?
 
Makes you think though, if dwellers on a football forum knew this, why didn't people at Barca?

Typical case of bruised ego.

Barça simply couldn’t handle having one of their superstars taken from them, that bruised ego made Dortmund & Liverpool the huge winners from the Neymar transfer rather than Barça themselves. Bizarre turn of events.
 
Typical case of bruised ego.

Barça simply couldn’t handle having one of their superstars taken from them, that bruised ego made Dortmund & Liverpool the huge winners from the Neymar transfer rather than Barça themselves. Bizarre turn of events.
Very bizarre. Decisions based on emotions rarely lead to good outcomes
 
If I were Barca, 142m why not they spend on Hazard and william combine, Erikson and Son combined, Mane and Salah combined.
 
Very bizarre. Decisions based on emotions rarely lead to good outcomes

But that's very common. Barcelona only used emotions that summer. They should have negotiated with PSG, sell Neymar discretely and early which would have given them the opportunity to identify and purchase the players that they wanted while in a position of relative strength. Today they need to sack Valverde because he actively hurt them with his tactical and personnel decisions, his 442 is easier to defend against than the 433 with Dembélé instead of Coutinho. They shouldn't purchase Griezmann but they most likely will, instead they should bring a right winger and sell Suarez to a gullible club while also bringing someone like Jovic or a young attacker than can come from the bench.

United fan will probably disagree but Barcelona's management is even worse than United's, they actually have players that are far better than the competition but between the manager and some boneheaded transfer decisions, they managed to cripple a team built around the best player in the world.
 
But that's very common. Barcelona only used emotions that summer. They should have negotiated with PSG, sell Neymar discretely and early which would have given them the opportunity to identify and purchase the players that they wanted while in a position of relative strength. Today they need to sack Valverde because he actively hurt them with his tactical and personnel decisions, his 442 is easier to defend against than the 433 with Dembélé instead of Coutinho. They shouldn't purchase Griezmann but they most likely will, instead they should bring a right winger and sell Suarez to a gullible club while also bringing someone like Jovic or a young attacker than can come from the bench.

United fan will probably disagree but Barcelona's management is even worse than United's, they actually have players that are far better than the competition but between the manager and some boneheaded transfer decisions, they managed to cripple a team built around the best player in the world.
Yes, it happens often to calm down fans and what not but wise decisions pay over time.
 
A few years ago you were begging for someone to get him off us because he was so good, and now he's suddenly rubbish. That's not how it works.
He's a great player, but his new coach cannot utilise him properly. He's not a winger ffs.
He's also obviously in a bad shape of mind cause fans of his 'dream club' turned on him right after he joined. A 100m player for sure and we'd be very happy to have someone of his qualities in the squad. He's burned the bridges though, now he'll sit there and mourn looking at us lifting the cup.
 
A few years ago you were begging for someone to get him off us because he was so good, and now he's suddenly rubbish. That's not how it works.
He's a great player, but his new coach cannot utilise him properly. He's not a winger ffs.
He's also obviously in a bad shape of mind cause fans of his 'dream club' turned on him right after he joined. A 100m player for sure and we'd be very happy to have someone of his qualities in the squad. He's burned the bridges though, now he'll sit there and mourn looking at us lifting the cup.

He isn't rubbish, he isn't a 100m player and he isn't a good fit for Barcelona. All of these things can be true at the same time.
 
One of the worst deals in the history of football.

The only thing his transfer has paid for is Liverpool’s UCL trophy.

Why is this a surprise? Liverpool fans told you months before his deal that he was not your new Iniesta, or in any way suitable for you. It really wasn't sour grapes on our behalf. :wenger:
 
But that's very common. Barcelona only used emotions that summer. They should have negotiated with PSG, sell Neymar discretely and early which would have given them the opportunity to identify and purchase the players that they wanted while in a position of relative strength. Today they need to sack Valverde because he actively hurt them with his tactical and personnel decisions, his 442 is easier to defend against than the 433 with Dembélé instead of Coutinho. They shouldn't purchase Griezmann but they most likely will, instead they should bring a right winger and sell Suarez to a gullible club while also bringing someone like Jovic or a young attacker than can come from the bench.

United fan will probably disagree but Barcelona's management is even worse than United's, they actually have players that are far better than the competition but between the manager and some boneheaded transfer decisions, they managed to cripple a team built around the best player in the world.
Don't disagree at all, they're the worst run top club around. It's just that we don't have Messi to gloss over it.
 
And mods, thanks for my location change this time last year. Its been a great motivator. :p
 
Don't disagree at all, they're the worst run top club around. It's just that we don't have Messi to gloss over it.

Both Milan clubs are worse. So much that, they're probably not even top clubs anymore.
 
Barca also funded an intense and very close Premier League title race for the world to watch. Huge own goal buying him.
 
Don't disagree at all, they're the worst run top club around. It's just that we don't have Messi to gloss over it.

Worst run top club trophy goes to us, i don't agree with Barcelona beating us to that spot.

We have missed ucl for 4 years now spending more than ucl winning team Liverpool who nearly won league title as well. We don't even have a proper right winger for ages since we sold dimaria. We don't even have natural full backs and defenders to can pass the ball.

Barcelona has mismanaged but not on our scale.
 
Both Milan clubs are worse. So much that, they're probably not even top clubs anymore.

They don't have money, the difference is that Barcelona are in a position of strength they have money, pull and the players but they also shoot on their own foot on a regular basis. United is close to Barcelona but we don't have Messi.