One group of bottlers to another!Imagine being Coutinho at this point
Philippe Coutinho Barcelona Player
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Imagine being Coutinho at this point
Worryingly similar to Michael Owen moving to Madrid in 2004 and we know what happened in 2005...
Hahaha. . That really is possible.. But with Klopps final credentials I wouldnt bet on it ..
What an idiot he was for moving in Jan and missing out on champions league football for the season, he should have signed a deal to go in the summer and tried his best in the champions league with Liverpool.
I honestly don’t miss him at all, we play much better without him.
I honestly don’t miss him at all, we play much better without him.
His final credentials?
Always loses
What happened? I haven't checked RAWK in 5 minutes...
Behave, would you have risked missing out on playing for Barca to stay 6 months with Liverpool? No way.
Imagine being Coutinho at this point
Playing for arguably the best club side in the world at the moment (I'll accept possibly second best behind Real) in one of the most beautiful cities in the world, with a La Liga title almost in the bag. Did I miss something?
Yeah, this.
He was never going to be a part of Barcelona winning the CL this season so I don't think he cares too much. Liverpool can still feck it up in the semis or final so no-one can laugh at him yet. If Liverpool win the CL then it's quite funny.Imagine being Coutinho at this point
Seeing as he played in our group matches, wouldn't he qualify for a winners medal ?
I do not know. Doing some quick research Alex and Anelka did not get medals for Chelsea's 2012 win even though they played in the group stages.
I hate this bottler rubbish. In here as soon as a team loses a game then 'bottler' gets thrown about.
Sky Sports News just saying Coutinho could still get a Champions League medal because he played for Liverpool in the group stages scoring five goals and that it will come down to Klopp to decide if he wants to give him a medal (should we win it that is).
Over the years American sport style hot takes have been taking over Football. The overuse of the term "bottler"(similar to the American term choker) is one of the best examples of it. I hate it too.
It depends who's doing the losing
For the most part I agree; 'bottler' is a cheap tag thrown around as way of getting an extra kick at disliked team when they are already down.
However in the case of Barca last night you can do little other than question attitude and mentality, as a failure to defend your three goal lead against a team widely regarded to be inferior to you cannot be explained only in footballing terms.
It depends who's doing the losing
For the most part I agree; 'bottler' is a cheap tag thrown around as way of getting an extra kick at disliked team when they are already down.
However in the case of Barca last night you can do little other than question attitude and mentality, as a failure to defend your three goal lead against a team widely regarded to be inferior to you cannot be explained only in footballing terms.
Well they have also are about to win their 7th La Liga title in 10 seasons and might win their 5th Copa Del Rey in a row. So I do not think they suddenly lack mentality.
Shocking a Spurs fan seems to take offence at this term.
Liverpool improved dramatically without him
Best deal ever
Best deal ever
He should absolutely get one IMO. He's ineligible to play for Barcelona in the Champions League because he is deemed a member of Liverpool's Champions League squad. He got 5 goals and 2 assists in the 5 games he played for you so it's fair enough to suggest that he was a considerable factor in you reaching the knockout phases.
You mean a fan of a team that has finished above Liverpool for the last 5 years? #bottlers?Shocking a Spurs fan seems to take offence at this term.
True. I wouldn't say they're a bunch of bottlers or anything like that but I can't see a footballing explanation that sees a superior team beat someone 4-1 at their place and lose 3-0 away.
When Barca did PSG in ridiculous circumstances last year it was similar; you question how a team can go into a match and contrive to lose by the exact amount of goals that would put them out, almost as if collectively repeating 'do not concede three, do not concede three' over and over in their minds leads them to do exactly that. CL football in particular can be very odd indeed.
That's a ridiculous way of looking at things.
Oi mate you callin' me a Liverpool supporter?!You mean a fan of a team that has finished above Liverpool for the last 5 years? #bottlers?
Oh god sorry!!! The ultimate insult!! I saw Gerrard in your tag line and made an assumption. I apologise for such a slight on your good character.
You get a free pass this time, good sir.
I almost wish this happensThen Liverpool will bill Barcelona the Coutinho Champions League winner add-on.
It's too bad they didn't get to eliminate the cnuts themselves, that would've been poetic
Ok.. What is that he isnt good at winning finals?
In three of those finals, he was underdogs against a very strong Bayern at the time. With Liverpool he came up against a Sevilla who are EL experts. Were there any finals he lost from a position of strength?
Then again, I concede that his team is an underdog against Real and Bayern, and if he meets them in the final it's likely he would meet another defeat unless the opposition has an off day and he can raise the level of his team on the day. I just don't see it as a flaw of his. "Klopp loses finals" ignores that context.
Mate, it's called banter.
Imagine if he gets a Spanish League winners medal and a CL medal for Liverpool without doing any of the heavy lifting for either side.
He will, but I imagine this won't feel like a proper title win for him. He's come in half way through the season as hasn't exactly been a decisive factor in them winning the league.
Why take offense in the term?
I meant this is as clear as bottling job as it can gets. Roma needs to score 3 goals to progress, and you have 90 minutes with all your best players available to get away goal to put the tie away. Losing from such comfortable position is bottling. What is hard to understand?
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Shocking a Spurs fan seems to take offence at this term.
Why take offense in the term?
I meant this is as clear as bottling job as it can gets. Roma needs to score 3 goals to progress, and you have 90 minutes with all your best players available to get away goal to put the tie away. Losing from such comfortable position is bottling. What is hard to understand?
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It's just a crap term and I hate it.
Has he ever experienced one before? I'm sure he'll count it.
It's a really crap term. One of the armchair psychologist's favorite terms though. 90 minutes can be summed up to an overall summary of a team's mental strength, or their desire.