What’s that got to do with anything?
Phil Jones Future | Reports: Observing United academy sessions
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His contract was renewed at least twice, during his career at United. I suspect United kept him on for other reasons, just as they are bringing him back now it's the man they appreciate, his dedication to the club and to keep going no matter what the odds. He was not the brightest nor talented of players, but if you want someone beside you in the trenches it was Phil Jones.
Observing our young academy boys, heh.
This is nonsense.
The majority of clubs invite ex players to start their coaching careers with them, usually through the various youth teams. This happens at every level of football including top clubs.
Simply not true, many teams do this.
Meh, he's starting his potential coaching career with us. I don't see the negative about this. If he's not qualified or good enough, he'll get found out soon.
Name 5.
Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV, Anderlecht, Club Brugge
Many players who retired due to injury turned to coaching/ for example Kieran McKenna
Well, if he doesn’t have coaching qualifications, then he cannot be a coach. A no-brainer. But no idea what he’s doing then. Our club’s incompetence strikes again.
We're just a glorified trust fund for all our ex-players, managers, the Glazer kids, board of directors etc. etc.
True. We're an embarrasment and a laughing stock of a football world at the moment.
Agree. He's probably paid 500k a week just to stand by the fence and watch.
So many emotional, irrational responses to a bloke just wanting to get on with the next phase of his life, and his employer of more than a decade saying “We can help you”.
How scandalous.
How scandalous.
I’m more than happy with Jones joining the club if he’s qualified. But the statement says absolutely nothing. What does he do? Is he being paid? Does he pay the club? What’s the goal in here? It’s the lack of transparency that makes this whole thing a bit ridiculous.
Assume you’re on the wind-up
I think the “embarrassing” brigade might have had a point in the Woodward era, when decisions seemed to have been made to appeal to sentimental fans of a certain age. While I’m not convinced there’s been much of an improvement in the overall decision making since his departure, it’s pretty obvious that’s no longer happening. If Jones does get offered a coaching job, it’ll be because he’s impressed those in charge of the U18s; he won’t be foisted on them by the club hierarchy.
That's all well and good but tell me why did Fletcher get promoted 2 times in 6 months then?Assume you’re on the wind-up
I think the “embarrassing” brigade might have had a point in the Woodward era, when decisions seemed to have been made to appeal to sentimental fans of a certain age. While I’m not convinced there’s been much of an improvement in the overall decision making since his departure, it’s pretty obvious that’s no longer happening. If Jones does get offered a coaching job, it’ll be because he’s impressed those in charge of the U18s; he won’t be foisted on them by the club hierarchy.
heh
Well why would any player listen to Mourinho, Klopp or Wenger? Three world class managers who all played at a much lower level than the players they coached.
A top coach will command respect no matter what experience they have as a player.
Evans / Jones / Fletcher / Arnold / Woodward (previously) / Glazer kids. I probably forgot a few.
None of them were there due to how good they are at their role. Alright maybe I can give Arnold a pass, but is he literally the best CEO Man Utd can have? This isn't how you run a serious business.
What statement? It only says nothing because there hasn’t been one… because it’s a former player observing some sessions. Hardly newsworthy, detrimental to the club, nor deserving of the responses it’s getting here.
I still think giving him the title “Technical Director“ when he’s no such thing was idiotic.
Wonder how close to being a circle the venn diagram of people opposed to Phil Jones observing some youth training sessions and people claiming the club should keep Greenwood because of its duty of care to him is.
Wasn't Klopp a great footballer?
I think he always said he was destined to be a coach, he had the footballing brain without the actual physical ability.
Missed today's training session with eyestrain
What a strange thing to be so angry about.
Id say hes actually the new academy pyshio hes bound to no alot about muscle injuries etc since he spent 10 years on a treatment table im suprised they dont use his face as the cover for pyshio room website
This club needs involvement of our former players in key roles. The lack of them in all levels at the club is one of the main reasons we are in this current state.
Non - football people have managed to turn us against footballers. If he is good enough and qualified to be a coach at Utd U18, he should be given the job. We really need to go back to being a football club and stop being a catwalk.
How is this even an issue or warrant the daft reactions.
Non - football people have managed to turn us against footballers. If he is good enough and qualified to be a coach at Utd U18, he should be given the job. We really need to go back to being a football club and stop being a catwalk.
How is this even an issue or warrant the daft reactions.
Based on what? Hardly anyone in this club ever got fired for incompetence except our managers.
What qualifications does he not have to not deserve the title?
I still think giving him the title “Technical Director“ when he’s no such thing was idiotic.
Nothing to do with qualifications.
Have you seen his job spec? It’s all to do with transitioning academy players to the first team setup. Which is an important job, and one that I have no doubt he’s good at.
It’s hardly a “technical director” role though. One of those would involve coming up with a style of play and ensuring it’s adhered to throughout the club. As far as I can tell he isn’t doing that. If he had been we would have heard about it.
I believe his role does involve recruitment of young players. Maybe he carries more clout in the eyes of agents and parents by having “Director” in his title.
Agreed. Some of our fans are so childish.
I feel sorry for the fella. Should still be playing at a great level. It’s not his fault that his body couldn’t cope.
We should be proud that our ex players are looked after.
Oh okay. I get your point now. Maybe a different title for him would have been helpful. Fair.
Bang on. No different to when clubless ex players go back to clubs to train and get fit etc. Perfectly normal, non newsworthy situation.
Im going to be right arent I? The Glazers will be gone before Jones is
Let me get this right. Even when they’re out of contact we still can’t get rid of them? What next DDG going to start selecting himself in the match day squad?
But in all seriousness. I think it’s good that United allow Jones to stay occupied. Doesn’t mean he’s getting a job with United. Maybe he’s doing a coaching badge or just bored AF and the club are supporting him in retirement. It would be a very big and drastic change for a person to go from the structure of being employed by a premier league team to having nothing to do and no real reason to work to pay the bills.
But in all seriousness. I think it’s good that United allow Jones to stay occupied. Doesn’t mean he’s getting a job with United. Maybe he’s doing a coaching badge or just bored AF and the club are supporting him in retirement. It would be a very big and drastic change for a person to go from the structure of being employed by a premier league team to having nothing to do and no real reason to work to pay the bills.
Not angry. Perhaps sad or confused, yeah. I think I’ve been fed up a bit with the club recently, the senior management, the way the club handled De Gea, MG’s situation, etc. I’d like to see receipts when it comes to some actions, that’s it.
What's wrong with some of you lot.. Jones is exploring the transition to being a coach. I've argued previously (and gotten flak) that he should have explored a coaching/media/ambassadorial career years ago just like Fletcher and other players have but better late than never. We're a club after-all, and as long as Jones' suitability is assessed and hired based on merit I have no issues with this.
It's good that he seems to be shaking off what I'm guessing to be depression.
It's good that he seems to be shaking off what I'm guessing to be depression.
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