I think he meant Anderson.Stop talking nonsense. Fred, Pogba and Dave have all recieved their fair share of abuse.
I think he meant Anderson.Stop talking nonsense. Fred, Pogba and Dave have all recieved their fair share of abuse.
Now imagine you’re Phil Jones and that’s happening to you and your family only much worse on a regular basis. Your comment was similar to the ones Jones was speaking out about on Twitter.That's not disagreeing, that's insulting.
Now imagine you’re Phil Jones and that’s happening to you and your family only much worse on a regular basis. Your comment was similar to the ones Jones was speaking out about on Twitter.
And? He's still getting paid 100k every week for sitting in the medical room. Everyone can feel sorry for him, his story is sad, but it's not like he is starving to death or anything. And as far as abuse goes, every gets it. fecking hell, even the GOATs Ronaldo and Messi have had it plenty. Phil isn't exactly special in that regard. The club should have gotten rid a long time ago. Bale's been injury prone and Madrid has been looking to offload him for ages despite the fact that he won them multiple CL's and he was absolutely clinical in Ancelotti's CL run. This may sound cruel, but the reality is that as long as this club is run on santimentality, we'll remain a joke other clubs would laugh at.He had the same injury which kept Ole out for 3 years. I think his injury issues have not been communicated properly.
Yeah, didn't see the link for entire article so it seems more sensible after reading it.
Still, explained my stance on Jones few times before, if he was at any other club he would be long time gone, he can thank United and Ole for keeping him and helping him that much.
Nor did they insult those with flat Pepsi's.No, it's not. Even Ronaldo and Messi get these kind of comments, let alone Phil Jones. If he can't cope with comments like this then he should quit football. Comments others are talking about are different thpigh.
Can you remember the abuse the likes of Rashford, Smalling, etc. got while they were here? And they are/were far better player for Manchester United and didn't deserve any of it.
Haha - yea, maybe I got carried away after reading the Times piece. But could be a good utility man for us this season - like O'Shea.
Eh? Not getting the joke here, sorry
Given the recent news about his challenges with mental health and online abuse. Would it be possible to change the thread pictures to slightly more flattering ones @MyOnlySolskjaer .
While I know there is no malice in it and they are humorous; I think we should show a bit more respect.
You're correctI think he meant Anderson.
Is this man gonna make a DM comeback or not then?
I had a go at someone yesterday who was saying he hates Jones situation sitting on the bench claiming money for nothingHis multiple issues time and time again
Sorry but how can you say someone is finished when he’s out injured? He was literally in the England squad before his injury. Use your nogginThis. Give him job in club or something but keeping first team player who is obviously finished at top level is just stupid.
What is wrong with you?His body cannot cope with football. Last time he played a match was before the world went to shit in a pandemic.
I feel sorry for him because mentally it must be a big challenge to keep fighting the injury troubles. But, he still makes more in a week than 99% of folks make in an year. And, he continues to remain on a fat contract for another two and a half season despite doing nothing.
I’ve echoed this statement over the years also, to the point where I don’t come in here anymore because the spouting of shit about Jones annoys me too much.I've written several posts detailing my disgust of how the fanbase have alienated Phil Jones from the club and made him feel like a pariah, to the point where he doesn't even want a testimonial because he feels like no one would show up.
So here you have it, he's struggling with a professionally delibitating injury. Genuinely, I'd love if some of our so called fans could just go join the ranks at the Ethiad instead. Toxic vermin.
Who gives a shit? Really? Jones has literally given his body to the club over the years.His body cannot cope with football. Last time he played a match was before the world went to shit in a pandemic.
I feel sorry for him because mentally it must be a big challenge to keep fighting the injury troubles. But, he still makes more in a week than 99% of folks make in an year. And, he continues to remain on a fat contract for another two and a half season despite doing nothing.
I said at highest level, where you must play game every 3,4 days and stay fit. Injury can happen to any player but lets be honest, even before this "newest" injury, he was extremely injury prone. It was nailed that after 4,5 games in a row, he will pick up some injury.Sorry but how can you say someone is finished when he’s out injured? He was literally in the England squad before his injury. Use your noggin
Waiting to see what his level is after injury is having empathyI said at highest level, where you must play game every 3,4 days and stay fit. Injury can happen to any player but lets be honest, even before this "newest" injury, he was extremely injury prone. It was nailed that after 4,5 games in a row, he will pick up some injury.
Sympathy is one thing but reality is another.
I had a go at someone yesterday who was saying he hates Jones situation sitting on the bench claiming money for nothing
it’s a stupid internet narrative that’s grown legs because people are too lazy to look the facts up
And? He's still getting paid 100k every week for sitting in the medical room. Everyone can feel sorry for him, his story is sad, but it's not like he is starving to death or anything. And as far as abuse goes, every gets it. fecking hell, even the GOATs Ronaldo and Messi have had it plenty. Phil isn't exactly special in that regard. The club should have gotten rid a long time ago. Bale's been injury prone and Madrid has been looking to offload him for ages despite the fact that he won them multiple CL's and he was absolutely clinical in Ancelotti's CL run. This may sound cruel, but the reality is that as long as this club is run on santimentality, we'll remain a joke other clubs would laugh at.
And his comments about the keyboard warriors are totally uncalled for. FFS, those people you're insulting are the guy that pay your wages because the Glazers surely aren't lining their own pockets to do it. Have some respect, regardless of their appearance or whatever. They have a right to be angry when you're stealing a living while they are working 9/5 every day.
He had the same injury which kept Ole out for 3 years. I think his injury issues have not been communicated properly.
By the way, do you sip flat pepsi?
If anyone is interested in reading the full article. It's actually good read.
What is wrong with you?
Who gives a shit? Really? Jones has literally given his body to the club over the years.
I mean, it’s a pretty reasonable post, no?What is wrong with you?
No they wouldn't you fool. Inter hasn't "gotten rid" of Eriksen, and in his case we know for a fact he will never play for them. Also there's nothing to be gained by releasing Jones as both parties have signed a contract.There's nothing wrong with what I wrote. You need to get off your high horse and start looking at things objectively. He was rewarded with a 5 year contract back in February 2019 despite have a troubling injury history and shocking form whenever he played. Since his renewal he has made just 11 appearances and as I mentioned in my initial post, he hasn't played at all for almost 2 years. Our wage bill has gone up 30% after this summer, thanks to big signings. But, we don't help ourselves when we reward mediocre/injury-prone with big/fat contracts who not only cost club a lot of money in wages but don't have a lot of suitors either.
Great man once said, there is no room for sentimentality in football. What we are doing with Jones is nothing but that. I can feel sorry for him going through this but at the same time recognize he's still in an extremely privileged position, where any serious club would have sold/released him a while back. We don't have a bottomless pit of money to keep squandering it for sentimental reason on likes of Jones, Mata, Grant etc. They all add up to the wage bill.
Read above.
No one releases an injured player.There's nothing wrong with what I wrote. You need to get off your high horse and start looking at things objectively. He was rewarded with a 5 year contract back in February 2019 despite have a troubling injury history and shocking form whenever he played. Since his renewal he has made just 11 appearances and as I mentioned in my initial post, he hasn't played at all for almost 2 years. Our wage bill has gone up 30% after this summer, thanks to big signings. But, we don't help ourselves when we reward mediocre/injury-prone with big/fat contracts who not only cost club a lot of money in wages but don't have a lot of suitors either.
Great man once said, there is no room for sentimentality in football. What we are doing with Jones is nothing but that. I can feel sorry for him going through this but at the same time recognize he's still in an extremely privileged position, where any serious club would have sold/released him a while back. We don't have a bottomless pit of money to keep squandering it for sentimental reason on likes of Jones, Mata, Grant etc. They all add up to the wage bill.
Read above.
I’ll put it simple for those that don’t get itI mean, it’s a pretty reasonable post, no?
It’s unfortunate Jones is the butt of many fans jokes, and of course it’s a nightmare to be injured for large periods of time for any footballer, but let’s not pretend he isn’t in an unbelievably privileged position here. He has earned more money in the last 2 years than most people earn in a lifetime, for doing nothing.
It's written in the stars, he's going to win player of the year as a DM.Is this man gonna make a DM comeback or not then?
No they wouldn't you fool. Inter hasn't "gotten rid" of Eriksen, and in his case we know for a fact he will never play for them. Also there's nothing to be gained by releasing Jones as both parties have signed a contract.
You and many others don't seem to understand how a contract works. It's been explained before regarding Jones. Use the search function or google.
Woefully uninformed post.Ignoring the childish insult, weird to compare Jones situation with Eriksen. Eriksen suffered a cardiac arrest which is completely different to Jones injury issues which range from ankle to shin to knee to back, etc. Besides, Eriksen is aiming to return in few months and if he can't, then almost assuredly his contract would be terminated. One is possibly a career ending issue, which no one returns from compared to persistent injury troubles of Jones.
Point is, we were foolish to reward him with a 4+1 deal in the first place because a) his injury record was poor and b) whenever he actually played, he was more often than not a liability. No competently run club would've given him a new contract in 2019 like we did. But, we continue to make same mistakes till date. We rewarded Bailly with a fresh deal when his injury record is shocking, not to mention he's not particularly good. Same with Mata and Grant deals, we squander too much money. We have to improve in this regard, and if it means being more ruthless, then so be it.