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2014-15 Performances

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5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
24
Clean sheets
7
Goals
0
Assists
1
Yellow cards
3
Sammyjunn said:
Am I the only one who thinks he was the better player in his first two seasons? I think the majority genuinely tought he could become one of the greatest defenders in the PL, 19 year and putting in such performances. Playing him out of position, injuries have really had a negative effect.
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I'd go as far as to say just his first season. Right at the beginning, I think it was against Bolton away, where he looked so so good at right back. Set up at least one goal.

The early period of that season was so exciting. Felt like we had some serious serious potential.
 
I still think his performances in midfield have been far better then in central defence. Heck, I think even his performances at right back have been better.

In midfield he gets to do the things he's good as, use his pace and strength to run around like a mad man to get into the opposition, winning back the ball, and generally just being a pain in the ass for opponents. He also gets to utilise those driving runs he occasionally does (we've seen less and less of them in recent times). Plus it (somewhat) masks his problem areas too, i.e lack of positional sense, lapses of concentration, vulnerability to high balls. Obviously for games at home against weaker opposition thats not really going to be needed, but for the tougher games I'd much rather see Jones playing that 'destroyer' role in a midfield 3, then marshaling the defence at the heart of a back 4.
 
There's an interview up where he talks about enjoying the partnership with Rojo, but I just can't see that having any long term potential, you can't have two loose cannon style CB's together.
 
Devil may care said:
There's an interview up where he talks about enjoying the partnership with Rojo, but I just can't see that having any long term potential, you can't have two loose cannon style CB's together.
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It's not a good partnership IMO. Give me Smalling next to Rojo any day.
 
Devil may care said:
I think we need some fresh blood at CB but for the rest of this season the Smojo partnership would definitely be my first choice.
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I'd like to see a run in off Smalling and Rojo. Evans can go and Jones looks more and more like a poor mans John O'shea. Good squad player but nothing more but the difference being O'shea could play equally well in left or right side so was such a specialist squad player and a great fall back sub.
 
Lawman said:
I'd like to see a run in off Smalling and Rojo. Evans can go and Jones looks more and more like a poor mans John O'shea. Good squad player but nothing more but the difference being O'shea could play equally well in left or right side so was such a specialist squad player and a great fall back sub.
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The difference was that O'Shea might not have been as psychically gifted as Jones but he was consistent and reliable, not prone to stupid brain farts that coughed up dangerous chances every match.
 
Devil may care said:
The difference was that O'Shea might not have been as psychically gifted as Jones but he was consistent and reliable, not prone to stupid brain farts that coughed up dangerous chances every match.
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Hard to disagree with any that Devil
 
Man Utd 1:2 Arsenal
He's worse than Silvestre and Blanc.
 
I liked when he brought the ball forward to get the handball. Moments like that are why managers tend to rate him.
 
Shit for brains, there's no way we can continue with both this guy and Smalling, we need a boss for that back 4 no matter what in the summer.
 
He's so reckless in his defending. He charges out to make interceptions (which work sometimes) but the other half the time he gets caught out and leaves space in behind. An all-or-nothing type defender.
 
ZDwyr said:
He's so reckless in his defending. He charges out to make interceptions (which work sometimes) but the other half the time he gets caught out and leaves space in behind. An all-or-nothing type defender.
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There was a moment he was thinking of charging out or running back. Did neither and Sanchez was through.

He's a joke of a footballer.
 
Thought he was fine today. Had a pretty good game going forward in fact.
 
He was fairly good today after he came on.

Walters_19_MuFc said:
Because Van Gaal encourages his defenders to take it down if they can, which allow us to keep possession, as opposed to heading it back out and loosing it.

Jones did nothing wrong. Valencia was at fault.
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This.

And Maybe De Gea should have risked sacrificing himself.
 
He wasn't bad today and I'm not saying it's his fault, but it looks like every time he plays our other defenders play like shit. :lol:
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Because Van Gaal encourages his defenders to take it down if they can, which allow us to keep possession, as opposed to heading it back out and possibly losing it.

Jones did nothing wrong. Valencia was at fault.
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I'm not sure giving it to Valencia would help us keep possession when de Gea would have just kicked it back out. It was just a dumb decision from him and a really shite pass from Valencia. Valencia probably panicked because it was such an odd decision to do that with an Arsenal player right behind him.
 
One of our few players who played with urgency. Showed a bit of leadership too.
 
FromTheBench said:
He was fairly good today after he came on.



This.

And Maybe De Gea should have risked sacrificing himself.
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Why should De Gea get a red? I rather lose a goal than a red card. Even though we got a red later on. Plus we need DDG in the next month, I'm chuffed he did nothing crazy.
 
In Rainbows said:
I'm not sure giving it to Valencia would help us keep possession when de Gea would have just kicked it back out. It was just a dumb decision from him and a really shite pass from Valencia. Valencia probably panicked because it was such an odd decision to do that with an Arsenal player right behind him.
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If Valencia played a better ball back to De Gea and our centre backs split, we probably would have played it out from the back. We were doing it all game. If not, then it would have been kicked out by De Gea, but more in a controlled manner than if Jones headed it out.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
If Valencia played a better ball back to De Gea and our centre backs split, we probably would have played it out from the back. We were doing it all game. If not, then it would have been kicked out by De Gea, but more in a controlled manner than if Jones headed it out.
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In the last two games he's played, he's been blamed for a perfectly reasonable decision to control the ball to Valencia, and for not bounding into the middle to cut out a cross whipped in to the other side of the goal. I wonder if people actually watch the games, or it just registered that Phil Jones has played again so they need to repeat the same inaccurate comments from the last game he played. The more advanced managed to catch the highlights and go out of their way to find a way to portray a goal we've conceded as his fault.
 
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He's a bombscare waiting to happen. He should of just cleared that rather than try to give it to Valencia.

Phil Jones previously looked alright for us when partnered with someone like Vidic or Ferdinand, which is slowly becoming obvious that all our current Cbs only looked good because of this
 
Bwuk said:
He's a bombscare waiting to happen. He should of just cleared that rather than try to give it to Valencia.

Phil Jones previously looked alright for us when partnered with someone like Vidic or Ferdinand, which is slowly becoming obvious that all our current Cbs only looked good because of this
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Which is an almighty cluster-feck that has ruined our last two seasons.
 
ChrisG11 said:
In the last two games he's played, he's been blamed for a perfectly reasonable decision to control the ball to Valencia, and for not bounding into the middle to cut out a cross whipped in to the other side of the goal. I wonder if people actually watch the games, or it just registered that Phil Jones has played again so they need to repeat the same inaccurate comments from the last game he played. The more advanced managed to catch the highlights and go out of their way to find a way to portray a goal we've conceded as his fault.
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It is ridiculous. Van Gaal's philosophy and Guardiola's philosophy that evolved out of that involves the defenders playing ball, even under a high press, this isn't a secret.

Jones put Valencia in a position where he had to make a simple pass and Valencia failed to do that. I am not sure why Jones is being blamed for that. It is entirely Valencia's fault in this system. If the team is under instructions to clear their lines or 'if in doubt, play it out' then fair enough but that is not how we play football under Van Gaal, besides should Jones even be in doubt that Valencia could make that pass?

It was interesting to see the much lauded Varane play a suicidal back pass under little pressure last night, a worse mistake than I have seen Jones make all season. I am sure that Varane did this earlier in the season too. He is also supposed to have been atrocious in the 4-0 defeat against A Madrid.

I think the game is a lot harder for defenders these days and we are so quick to write them off if they don't play the perfect game. I think that we are guilty of a lack of perspective. The non contact, high pressing and faster game that is evolving does not benefit defenders at all. Highly critical and statistic armed fans compound that too.
 
Just brings complete frenzy and chaos to the defence. Which is a shame because he does have some good attributes, quick, strong in tackle and decent in the air. But has managed to not improve or actually get worse since his first season.
 
God I hope he's got rid of.....I never even rolled my eyes at Bebe this much.

When he came on against Arsenal, Smalling went from being calm and composed to being a complete donkey.......The guy just cannot be trusted at all
 
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