Its the wave of the future on US campuses - shutting down all speech that doesn't conform to the authoritarian left's orthodoxy.
Peterson, Harris, etc....
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Its the wave of the future on US campuses - shutting down all speech that doesn't conform to the authoritarian left's orthodoxy.
you guys get so wound up by college kidsdamn authoritatian left
the koch brothers literally decided which professors to hire at george mason
That's terrible.
The difference between him and his brother is pretty stark. Its like they were separated at birth and grew up in alternate universes.
Funny thing is Peter was a pretty big socialist in his early years, changed starkly as time went on though. He's almost interesting to listen to for how truly bizarre and arbitrary some of his opinions are.
The Republican party holds the presidency and both chambers of Congress
The Supreme Court just banned class action for workers who signed arbitration agreements.
Fox News is the #1 news channel in the US.
Sean Hannity is the #1 talk show host in the US
Sinclair owns the local news channels
Talk radio has been dominated for eons with conservative nuts like Limbaugh.
Koch brothers are firing and hiring professors at University at will, to suit their agenda.
Yet, it's the 'authoritarian left' who is trying to clamp down on free speech. Makes perfect sense.
The Supreme Court just banned class action for workers who signed arbitration agreements.
Fox News is the #1 news channel in the US.
Sean Hannity is the #1 talk show host in the US
Sinclair owns the local news channels
Talk radio has been dominated for eons with conservative nuts like Limbaugh.
Koch brothers are firing and hiring professors at University at will, to suit their agenda.
Yet, it's the 'authoritarian left' who is trying to clamp down on free speech. Makes perfect sense.
Yeah agreed. There's a certain entertainment value of listening to Peter. IIRC Christopher started out as a Marxist as well for much of his earlier days.
Its more of a college campus thing. The hard left has taken over.
My goodness I thought that Peter had a familiarity... had no clue that Christopher had a brother!
In light of that, what a disappointment. I found Christopher interesting to listen to. His brother, based on the 2 videos I've seen, definitely not.
The US has always had a shit taste in TV
In all seriousness, these things swing in roundabouts. The Dems will be back in the next 2-6 years.
I’d say given the above tweets, the Koch brothers are having a say in that.
There's an entertaining debate between both of them where they debate religion on YouTube. Christopher takes it a bit easy on him imo.
Unfortunately, I don't think their best efforts will make much of a difference. We're going to see many more instances like at Evergreen, Berkley and other places since there are groups who want to snuff out any sign of debate that doesn't conform to their views.
What do you mean by “unfortunately”?
I'm not talking about the bit of attempting to install preferred professors. They donate to quite a few Universities to balance out the hard left slant at most of them. However much they donate, its not likely they will succeed since most campuses are lopsidedly infested with leftist ideology to where alternate views that don't meet the orthdoxy aren't tolerated.
I can't imagine how anything would think "No Whites on Campus Day" is a good idea.
I can't even imagine what positives they think could possibly be achieved by that.
You used to have Walnut Creek as your location. How can you spell Berkeley wrong?
Also what examples are you talking about?
Despite what the perception was from the 1960s FSM, Berkeley's campus was nothing like that Evergreen article.
The two are linked though, are they not? It’s basically like lobbying congressmen.
I don't think they're doing it to provide 'balance' at all - they're doing it to further their own right-wing agenda. Again I don't see why it's unfortunate that they won't succeed considering they're fairly reprehensible figures.
A list of universities they’ve donated to, as well as a list of cases of rules infractions related to them.
http://polluterwatch.org/charles-koch-university-funding-database
Several South Carolina schools on the list. I was glad to see my alma mater isn’t one of them.
http://polluterwatch.org/charles-koch-university-funding-database
Several South Carolina schools on the list. I was glad to see my alma mater isn’t one of them.
The thing is, most university have liberal slant because in general, people with liberal beliefs are more likely to go into education and higher education than people with conservative views.
Go into Teacher's College at Columbia and poll the grad students and I bet you find majority are liberal.
Go into Wharton School of business at Penn and poll the business grad students and I bet you find majority are conservative.
In one sense, you are almost saying its okay to disrupt a naturally selecting phenomenon with an artificial influence if the diversity hasn't reached an appropriate threshold. Affirmative action basically. Do you believe in affirmative action in general?
I can't imagine how anything would think "No Whites on Campus Day" is a good idea.
I can't even imagine what positives they think could possibly be achieved by that.
You used to have Walnut Creek as your location. How can you spell Berkeley wrong?
Also what examples are you talking about?
Despite what the perception was from the 1960s FSM, Berkeley's campus was nothing like that Evergreen article.
I always seem to spell it wrong since I know someone with the last name that's spelled slightly different from the city and wind up getting confused between the two.
This and also, liberals tend to be more amenable to reason in general. The issue isn't so much that higher education slants to the left, its the conditions for allowing a climate that attempts to shut down speech by one side or the other. Unis should be places where ideas can be vigorously debated without fear of intimidation or one side attempting a power play to shut down the other because they disagree with it.
Yes you're right and maybe using the Koch brothers as a means to balance out other problems is a bad precedent since it would only justify other groups with money attempting to do the same.
Don't think this is that's exclusive to the US. In Holland the best rated news show is "hart van Nederland" which is mostly older people losing their cat and the like. People like pulp, they don't like critical thinking. At least, most people.
I think that's part of the reason that the left is clinging onto academics and trying to keep their vies dominant there. It's pretty much their last bastion of hope. If universities devolve in to the same propaganda Fox news, Sean Hannity and Ben Shapiro spout, all is pretty much lost. They know that, and in trying to prevent that, they sometimes go a bit far in trying to filter out "alternative" opinions.
This happens in The Netherlands as well. Most professors are left wing and there's a growing movement on the right criticizing this. At present I think it's still a vocal minority, since most of the followers of these alt right outlets don't give a toss about universities, but things are changing.
That quote from Stephen Fry sums it up perfectly.
where does the windmill channel rank
If the conservative right wouldn't be offering simplified solutions for made-up problems then probably there would be people in academia that politically align with them. But right now everybody that has the curiosity and the willingness to go deep on their politics is just getting disappointed by the lack of substance. So it's not really a surprise that they have no people at universities.
Yes, when your most powerful figure is effectively a manchild who doesn't understand political policy and who acts like a child, don't be surprised when people who research this stuff for a living decide that, yeah...he's got no substance whatsoever and isn't worth supporting.
Just watched the full Sam Harris interview on Russel Brand's show. Harris is there for the taking. His grasp of the matter is so basic that he would get eaten up in any serious debate on Islam or the Middle East. Someone can get famous very easily off of him. Some of his reasoning is suspect, and his thought experiments and are so childish that it is hard to understand how people view him as someone with an "immense intellectual capacity". Brand had him shook on a few occasions on that. Brand, like Affleck, have their heart in the right place because the nature of their job makes them meet all kinds of people and can draw from experience and not only from numbers and statistics.
Harris is definitely there for the taking in terms of having holes in his arguments. He is still light years ahead of Affleck, who basically had no argument other than to say Harris is wrong/racist etc.