Peter you traitor

Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>I wish Peter had celebrated with just a tad more respect for the United fans.

At least Denis Law had the grace to show that he still cared about his old club.

Celebration is one thing - Schmikes showed ecstasy!</strong><hr></blockquote>


Dennis was sad that we went down - very different to yesterday. Schmikes had every right to celebrate.
 
Originally posted by ManUinOz:
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And I wish a few more United fans showed a tad more respect for Schmikes</strong><hr></blockquote>


I don't deny his right to celebrate, or his right to respect from the fans.

Just wish he had toned it down a bit out of respect for us.

Doesn't mean I don't still like the guy.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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I don't deny his right to celebrate, or his right to respect from the fans.

Just wish he had toned it down a bit out of respect for us.

Doesn't mean I don't still like the guy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

For once I have to disagree with you Livvie.

The celebration showed his respect to the CITY fans - they currently pay his wages.

If he ever bad mouths this club publically (as Ince did) then that would be different.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Christ, you really are a total prick!

(I've never ben so against a single poster ever before, but this one is a right cnut! <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> )</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>So any player we sign should not be 100% committed to us when we play his ex club? Can you imagine us playing Nottingham forest, and Keano not being 100% committed????? NO, he plays for us now, and his past is behind him. All credit to Peter for his attitude. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

you can be committed without gloating over your old team.. there was no hard feeling, he really had no reason to do what he did..
 
It doesn't matter what he did, he's a true professional, and he always wants to win. We are his past, time has moved on!

I just wish people would praise Peter for the player that he is and give thanks for everything he did for us as a player. A true United legend.

Well said Roxyfella re: Keane. Of course if we played against Forrest now he should not have a single thought for them. And he should be as pleased as punch to give them a good stuffing.

I wasn't Peter's fault that we lost yesterday.
 
I'm in two minds over this one.

Firstly I respect all Pete did for us and was the greatest keeper this club has ever had, and did wonders for the team. A legend. He's now moved on and he's at City now because nobody else was prepared to take a chance with him, and he's now proving everyone he is the great keeper we all know he is. So why not show respect to the City fans and club? After all, Villa threw him away and nobody else came in for him, but City did, they should courage and Peter is thankful.

But at the same time he knows how much it hurts us all to see him playing in Blue after the odd decade he spent with us. We could never have thought he would join our biggest rivals when he 'quit English football'. We took him in from the Danish Leagues and made him in to a world famous keeper, and spent a good decade with the club and the fans. How he can just turn away and pretend to have been a blue all his life I just dont know.

He's also said City is the best club he's been with, and of course there's the Kasper incident.

I love Peter for all the things he did for us, and always will, but I cant let what he's done go.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>It doesn't matter what he did, he's a true professional, and he always wants to win. We are his past, time has moved on!

I just wish people would praise Peter for the player that he is and give thanks for everything he did for us as a player. A true United legend.

Well said Roxyfella re: Keane. Of course if we played against Forrest now he should not have a single thought for them. And he should be as pleased as punch to give them a good stuffing.

I wasn't Peter's fault that we lost yesterday.</strong><hr></blockquote>

of coz the respect is there for him.. but clearly he had none for us.. that's what's getting to the fans.. that they put too much respect in for the man..

cantona went as far as saying he would not play for another team because he doesn't want to face United. Batigol cried scoring against Fiorentina.

There are better ways to be a professional. Clearly not Big Pete's way.

the respect is still there no question.. but comes the second leg most of our fans will be more than happy to see Big Pete shed some tears losing 5-6 goals against us when they would have atleast been sympathethic of him had he not gloated on us Saturday. you wait and see.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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of coz the respect is there for him.. but clearly he had none for us.. that's what's getting to the fans.. that they put too much respect in for the man.. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Surely he must show more respect to the fans of the club that he plays for, rather than to the fans of a club he no longer plays for.

It was a great day for City and their fans, and they expect him to be as happy about beating us as they are.

I would expect nothing less from Keano as said. If he cried scoring for us against Forrest for example, he would not be showing any respect to Manchester United and its fans.
 
Well I didn't see that as gloating. :confused: I reckon he'll celebrate City's every important goal and victory this season in that way. No more no less.

He realised that he had played his part in creating a very special day for the City fans.

And his unbeaten Manchester Derby match run continues.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I would expect nothing less from Keano as said. If he cried scoring for us against Forrest for example, he would not be showing any respect to Manchester United and its fans.</strong><hr></blockquote>

by scoring for us is already enough to prove the professionalism in him. Keane had his best years with us, so of coz he would love this team more.

Batigol spent his best years at Fio.. so did Big Pete at United.. you would never in your life dare gloat over your most beloved team.. it's just not done, period.

Big Pete showed today that he really has nothing left he feels he owes this club for.. not even for the success and the fame we have given him.. we trained him, coached him.. the best manager of the world brought him up.. gave him chances even when he wasn't playing well..

i wouldn't have minded had he saved 15 shots of ours on that day.. but to gloat over-excitingly like that is just disgusting to see.. makes me feel gutted.. as i am sure our fans do..

he'll always be picked in my United top 11.. but on his loyalty, i'm questioning it now.
 
Although i was gutted to see him celebrate so much, you have to look at it another way.

Cantona left Leeds to come and play for us despite the bitterness between the two clubs. How would you have felt if he hadnt celebrated when he scored against them?
Football is a game and Schmeichel isn`t local, a fan, nor were we the first club he ever played for. Just because he had a fantastic period with us doesn`t mean he loves us.
A player goes from club to club in his career and Man City are just another club. Also bear in mind that City aren`t exactly setting the premiership alight with their football and when they win it`s a major thing. I haven`t expressed myself very well but I hope you get the idea
 
Originally posted by arnie sidebottom:
<strong>Well I didn't see that as gloating. :confused: I reckon he'll celebrate City's every important goal and victory this season in that way. No more no less.

He realised that he had played his part in creating a very special day for the City fans.

And his unbeaten Manchester Derby match run continues.</strong><hr></blockquote>

wasn't he in the team we lost 5-1 to? who was our GK then?
 
Originally posted by Manchesters Finest:
<strong>Although i was gutted to see him celebrate so much, you have to look at it another way.


Football is a game and Schmeichel isn`t local, a fan, nor were we the first club he ever played for. Just because he had a fantastic period with us doesn`t mean he loves us.
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yes..but he did refer to United as 'we' on BBC during the world cup.
 
Originally posted by arnie sidebottom:
<strong>Feck me I'm agreeing with Weastie. I've changed me mind....Scheichel is a traiterous twat.

There that's better.

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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wasn't he in the team we lost 5-1 to? who was our GK then?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, he joined us in 1991. To replace... guess who?
 
Originally posted by Manchesters Finest:
<strong>Although i was gutted to see him celebrate so much, you have to look at it another way.

Cantona left Leeds to come and play for us despite the bitterness between the two clubs. How would you have felt if he hadnt celebrated when he scored against them?
Football is a game and Schmeichel isn`t local, a fan, nor were we the first club he ever played for. Just because he had a fantastic period with us doesn`t mean he loves us.
A player goes from club to club in his career and Man City are just another club. Also bear in mind that City aren`t exactly setting the premiership alight with their football and when they win it`s a major thing. I haven`t expressed myself very well but I hope you get the idea</strong><hr></blockquote>


you are wrong mate.. Cantona had a tough period leaving Leeds.. they wanted to offload him.. you wouldn't love the team who wants to offload now would you?

we didn't offload big pete.. he wanted to go.. our fans cried when he left.. happy to see he was leaving while he was on top.. saying what now is complete bullshit that he would not play for another english team.. there's BIG BIG difference in Cantona's loyalty to United and Pete's loyaty to United.. do not compare it.. it's not fair.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>what was wrong with jim then? why did Weaste seem like he was trying to make a point?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I never rated Jim Leighton.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I never rated Jim Leighton.</strong><hr></blockquote>

oh my.. there's actually a player who YOU don't rate? hahaha.. that's pretty new coming from you.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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oh my.. there's actually a player who YOU don't rate? hahaha.. that's pretty new coming from you.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No it's not. There are some players in our current squad that I do not rate.
 
I was using it as an example picked out the air-alright try Rio if he scores at Leeds. All I`m saying a player moves from club to club. If Schmeichel was a crap player for us would this thread have come up. If Rai Van Der Gouw does the same will we get the same thread?

Don`t get me wrong im as upset as anyone but we have to look at reasons.
 
Originally posted by Manchesters Finest:
<strong>I was using it as an example picked out the air-alright try Rio if he scores at Leeds. All I`m saying a player moves from club to club. If Schmeichel was a crap player for us would this thread have come up. If Rai Van Der Gouw does the same will we get the same thread?

Don`t get me wrong im as upset as anyone but we have to look at reasons.</strong><hr></blockquote>

what they do when they beat us reflects on how much we meant to them.. i never said i expected anyone to do anything.. but for us to have thought Big Pete gave us a lot of respect and then to be humuliated is not so refreshing..

Rio will probably gloat.. leeds couldn't wait to offload him either, so there's really no reason for him to feel bad for them.. he'll probably be directing his gloat at Ridsdale..

yorke will probably gloat on us.. just as ince has done.. but we really did not expect it from pete..
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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No it's not. There are some players in our current squad that I do not rate.</strong><hr></blockquote>

really? never heard their names.. care to share?
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>Rio will probably gloat.. leeds couldn't wait to offload him either, so there's really no reason for him to feel bad for them.. he'll probably be directing his gloat at Ridsdale.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If we are going to use Rio as an example, I think West Ham would be the better club to compare to.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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If we are going to use Rio as an example, I think West Ham would be the better club to compare to.</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're right.. i don't think rio will gloat over west ham.. you think he would?
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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really? never heard their names.. care to share?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Phil Neville for one. His passing is average, his tackling is average, and his reading of the game is average. However, his work rate and committment can not be questioned, and neither can his passion and love for the club. All very important traits and abilities. But what are the most important ones?
 
Very useful utility player to have on the bench though. Very flexible.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Phil Neville for one. His passing is average, his tackling is average, and his reading of the game is average. However, his work rate and committment can not be questioned, and neither can his passion and love for the club. All very important traits and abilities. But what are the most important ones?</strong><hr></blockquote>

don't know why.. but i've always liked him.. his versatility (spelling?) is an invaluable asset to us.. esp at the moment.. i doubt we'll find another guy who can play in the positions he can.. him on the bench gives a sense of security i think..

i agree he's average.. but he's still an invaluable asset IMO.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>him on the bench gives a sense of security i think..

i agree he's average.. but he's still an invaluable asset IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've just said that. ;)

I dont rate him as a first choice player.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I've just said that. ;)

I dont rate him as a first choice player.</strong><hr></blockquote>

first time i think we agreed on something. don't count on this happening a lot though. :D
 
It strikes me that some people are looking for a scapegoat to vent their frustration over yesterday's result; well look to our current crop of players and their performances yesterday. Big Pete is a United legend, and a true professional. He's moved on, it happens to be on to our rivals, but deal with it. I'm sure somewhere in Pete's heart yesterday he was a little gutted for us United fans.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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you're right.. i don't think rio will gloat over west ham.. you think he would?</strong><hr></blockquote>

If he scored a goal against them at OT then I would expect him to be as happy as our fans and celebrate with them. Stuff the Hammers supporters, he's our player now. I don't give a shit how upset they get.

Not quite the same though is it, in the sense of an occasion - United vs West Ham & City vs United? I couldn't see us being that elated at beating West Ham, so he wouldn't have anyone to celebrate with.
 
There's a big difference between gloating and rubbing it in and celebrating.
 
It's the intensity of the celebrations and the level of adrenalin involved (because it was City vs United) that make some people think that he was gloating and rubbing our noses in it. He wasn't IMO.
 
Originally posted by arnie sidebottom:
<strong>Jim Leighton - he was that goalkeeper.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Leighton was in goal in '89 - and played his usual shite game for us - but he had been dumped well before we signed Schmeicel - from the 1990 cup final until the end of the 1991 season we had Sealey in goal (who can forget him playing with that gashed knee in the 1991 rumbelows final - or celebrating in Rotterdam after we beat Barca knowing it was his last game for us....