'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

City's squad is weaker (still excellent..) than it has been for a while. Gundoghan and Mahrez.. Cancelo.. he lost a centre half too. And Cole Palmer of course .. that's a lot of v v good, proper football players. I looked at their bench today and thought there isn't much there.

Surprised he took Doku off, he's explosive and a constant danger. Still a bit raw, and requires coaching.

Doku is explosive but he loses the ball which generated a lot of transition/counter opportunities for Chelsea. The talent is there but to work for Pep he'll have to learn to pick his moments better and fit more within City's possession game.

City are not built to go into these sorts of end to end contests, they slow the game down then slowly choke you with possession while generating chances.
 


Fire him already!

Another fun fact: in Pep’s entire managerial career, consisting of 882 games, this is the first time his side has EVER conceded 4 goals in a match

edit: First time when leading and his side had also scored 4 my bad :lol: Tbh I thought that sounded too good to be true
 
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They'd do well to go out early in the Fa Cup this year and concentrate on what matters. They just don't have as good and experienced a squad as last year, imo.

At this stage last season, we were a point behind Arsenal and people were saying the same thing.

Gundogan, Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte out
Doku, Nunes, Kovacic, Gvaridol in.

I'd say it's an even trade given the respective ages and last season's performances of the outs and ins. We've lost some experience but I'd say talent-wise we're maybe a little stronger and way more energetic given the ages of the players leaving.
 
Another fun fact: in Pep’s entire managerial career, consisting of 882 games, this is the first time his side has EVER conceded 4 goals in a match

Didn't Leicester score 4 against us in his first season (edit: actually Everton was 4-0, Leicester was 4-2). Barcelona also beat us 4-0, thats 3 times in 1 season.
 
This isn't true, he's conceded 4 goals against Liverpool, Everton, Madrid (when he was at Bayern)... It's rare though!!
Didn't Leicester score 4 against us in his first season (edit: actually Everton was 4-0, Leicester was 4-2). Barcelona also beat us 4-0, thats 3 times in 1 season.

I read the fact wrong, first time when leading he has conceded 4
 
At this stage last season, we were a point behind Arsenal and people were saying the same thing.

Gundogan, Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte out
Doku, Nunes, Kovacic, Gvaridol in.

I'd say it's an even trade given the respective ages and last season's performances of the outs and ins. We've lost some experience but I'd say talent-wise we're maybe a little stronger and way more energetic given the ages of the players leaving.
I know the ins are balancing the outgoing transfers but I'm not sure if they've improved in your squad from last season. Ofcourse, in the long run, City will be the better for it but I do believe that you're going to struggle more last year. Also, losing KDB for half a season is a huge blow. Everyone's expecting the second half of the season City juggernaut to show up as per the norm but I'm not quite so sure it will this time. The loss in experience and big goals from Mahrez and Gundogan (and KDB if he misses even larger chunks of the season) will be telling.
 
Checked another tweet, okay so it’s first time he has conceded 4 after leading and his side also scored 4 :lol:

It'll be the first time he's ever had a 4-4 draw on a wet afternoon with a kick off on a Sunday in London in November next. :lol:
 
At this stage last season, we were a point behind Arsenal and people were saying the same thing.

Gundogan, Palmer, Mahrez, Laporte out
Doku, Nunes, Kovacic, Gvaridol in.

I'd say it's an even trade given the respective ages and last season's performances of the outs and ins. We've lost some experience but I'd say talent-wise we're maybe a little stronger and way more energetic given the ages of the players leaving.
I’m sure you’re right in the long term. Pep improves pretty much everyone he works with and there is so much potential in Gvaridol and Doku. But I think in the short term, Gundugan and Mahrez are such clutch players (I never use that Americanism, but it’s very fitting). Gundugan in particular. I don’t watch every City match, but I watch a lot. I’ve literally never saw him have a bad game. Not once. A Manager’s dream.
 
Even if that was what he meant it still warrants a couple of laughter emojis

I can't believe anyone thinks Grealish is more exciting for you than he was for Villa though.
He gets it, delays things, jinks a bit, and passes backwards. Really disappointing how he's turned out.
 
I can't believe anyone thinks Grealish is more exciting for you than he was for Villa though.
He gets it, delays things, jinks a bit, and passes backwards. Really disappointing how he's turned out.
Sad to watch really.
 
I’m sure you’re right in the long term. Pep improves pretty much everyone he works with and there is so much potential in Gvaridol and Doku. But I think in the short term, Gundugan and Mahrez are such clutch players (I never use that Americanism, but it’s very fitting). Gundugan in particular. I don’t watch every City match, but I watch a lot. I’ve literally never saw him have a bad game. Not once. A Manager’s dream.

Agree on Gundogan, a huge big game player and I think of all who have left his presence that will be missed the most for sure.
Mahrez I think was good but replaceable, I'd be disappointed if Foden on the right doesn't run up similar figures of 25 or so g+a combined despite his age, he has no excuse this season not to step up.

I think as a whole Doku, Haaland, Foden should have more end product than Grealish, Mahrez, and Haaland. Sucks for Jack.
That said we're 8 goals below this point last season but I dunno how much of that is Mahrez/Gundo or jsut KDB being injured.
 
I can't believe anyone thinks Grealish is more exciting for you than he was for Villa though.
He gets it, delays things, jinks a bit, and passes backwards. Really disappointing how he's turned out.

Grealish is such a weird one cause I've seen a lot of people say Pep put shackles on him but he plays the exact same position as Doku and just doesn't want to drive at defenders anymore. I think at Villa it suited him better because he had space to play into whereas City are consistently up against walls of defenders. He's not really great at beating me on the outside and seems to always cut in to traffic, doesn't have the option of playing the ball in behind either.
 
I can't believe anyone thinks Grealish is more exciting for you than he was for Villa though.
He gets it, delays things, jinks a bit, and passes backwards. Really disappointing how he's turned out.

He's not exciting but he helps City retain the ball, move it forward and within a well flowing team can score and create. Doku is way more exciting but to the detriment of City's game against top sides (so far)
 
Grealish is such a weird one cause I've seen a lot of people say Pep put shackles on him but he plays the exact same position as Doku and just doesn't want to drive at defenders anymore. I think at Villa it suited him better because he had space to play into whereas City are consistently up against walls of defenders. He's not really great at beating me on the outside and seems to always cut in to traffic, doesn't have the option of playing the ball in behind either.
No offence but I think he should be able to do that to most caf posters if he wants to make it at the top level.
 
No offence but I think he should be able to do that to most caf posters if he wants to make it at the top level.

Oops, missing an n there, but I am rotund enough to take up an entire quarter of the pitch on my own. He'd be going the very long way round.
 
Don't think Liverpool need to be amazing to win it this year. This season won't need a 95 pointer imo. The way the top teams are playing, I think 85 will do and that gives Liverpool and Arsenal a fantastic chance.
If this is City after an "uninspiring" start, well they're already top, and at their current PPG they'd finish the season on 89 points. Very likely Arsenal/Liverpool need 90 or more to win it.
 
Grealish is such a weird one cause I've seen a lot of people say Pep put shackles on him but he plays the exact same position as Doku and just doesn't want to drive at defenders anymore. I think at Villa it suited him better because he had space to play into whereas City are consistently up against walls of defenders. He's not really great at beating me on the outside and seems to always cut in to traffic, doesn't have the option of playing the ball in behind either.
People laugh but Grealish is your Antony, just in a functioning possession based team.

Inverted winger. Check.
Not rapid. Check.
Good at retaining possession. Check.
Goal threat is coming inside and far post shot. Check (Grealish to be fair has a bit more here but that was his bread and butter)
Defensively works hard, limited output offensively. Check.
Transfer fee laughed at. Check.

I think City fans fears re Doku should be that you see his game slowly get more 'boring' as time goes on - will he end up being part of a machine that just keeps the ball and services Haaland - you want to win things but you also want the excitement of a great dribbler which is so rare these days.
 
People laugh but Grealish is your Antony, just in a functioning possession based team.

Inverted winger. Check.
Not rapid. Check.
Good at retaining possession. Check.
Goal threat is coming inside and far post shot. Check (Grealish to be fair has a bit more here but that was his bread and butter)
Defensively works hard, limited output offensively. Check.
Transfer fee laughed at. Check.

I think City fans fears re Doku should be that you see his game slowly get more 'boring' as time goes on - will he end up being part of a machine that just keeps the ball and services Haaland - you want to win things but you also want the excitement of a great dribbler which is so rare these days.

The stuff Grealish did at Villa, Antony couldn’t dream of doing in the PL, one game against United at Old Trafford was one of the best attacking displays I’ve seen there.

Mahrez was similar at Leicester vs City, far more exciting, although at least he kept more cut and thrust.
 
The stuff Grealish did at Villa, Antony couldn’t dream of doing in the PL, one game against United at Old Trafford was one of the best attacking displays I’ve seen there.

Mahrez was similar at Leicester vs City, far more exciting, although at least he kept more cut and thrust.
Mahrez was nothing like those two. I don't think there's much debate Grealish is better than Antony but their profile and role is actually quite similar.
 
His team keeps getting them dodgy decisions, brown envelopes never running out at City.
 
Does anyone else on here that saw Francis Lee play back in the olden days think the Bitter's version of a holy trinity (copying us again) is wrond due to Lee being vertical rather than in mid-dive? For those norn after 1980, Lee dived more than Tom Daley and he wasn't very convincing but the Refs back then were fat and unfit therefore he fooled many of them. I think Grealish is the nearest they have now to Lee. He was a good player to be fair and gave Norman Hunter a haymaker. Check it out.