Roid-rage is one hell of a thing.
Pep Guardiola agrees 1 year contract extension | Includes additional 1 year option
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Such a strange interaction. Like he’s trying to hug and kill him at the same time.
They are already playing in a stadium with no fans
“i love you so much but the things you do make me hurt you.”
Exactly that.
I think his vice is more the kind you sniff and not the one you inject.
Genuinely think, he gets sacked in the summer but will be announced as mutual agreement. They'll give him the Club World Championship because of his previous achievements but he won't start next season.
Just like Jose, the fall is hard and fast. Pep's style has like Joses finally been found out, and its easily punishable. You see whats happening not just City, but Brighton and Spurs etc.. the sit 10 men high up thee pitch and keep the ball is coming to an end. Football moves in cycles and this one is over.
Pep will adapt or fall into the pack.
Just like Jose, the fall is hard and fast. Pep's style has like Joses finally been found out, and its easily punishable. You see whats happening not just City, but Brighton and Spurs etc.. the sit 10 men high up thee pitch and keep the ball is coming to an end. Football moves in cycles and this one is over.
Pep will adapt or fall into the pack.
He thought this would never happen
He was clearly missing his best player in these games today. If Michael Oliver was there they would've beaten us.
He won't get sacked, certainly not in the summer. He has to take blame for how imbalanced our squad has become and certainly a lot of blame for setting us up to fail week in week out now but the reality is that when such a large portion of the squad is absolutely finished at the top level it would be extremely fickle sacking a manager that has dominated English football for 7 years.
What we are seeing are a natural decline of a winning team combined with poor progression planning, and then escalated by the fact that the manager sticks with a style that doesn't protect the current personel at all instead of trying some damage limitation. It isn't like we are currently doing what we did 2 years ago but have been found out, the players simply can't play this style anymore because there are too many holes and ways to get at us that simply weren't there in the treble season. But it started to show already last year, and a year later with no refreshing in the key areas and more injury issues it has got much worse. I'd still realistically say the balance of probabilities leans towards Pep doing better after a rebuild than any other manager on the planet.
That being said, I would really have liked some damage limitation at points. But I think after the last decade we can stomach a couple of results like this. Today, specifically I think if we had cut out the individual mistakes and therefore the complete capitulation towards the end we were competetive enough against a team that is supposed to be title-contenders. The area for improvement is easy enough to identify so we need to stick it out a bit
Happy new year. More than you believe.
Zero chance he’ll be sacked
Personally, I think he should've gone hard in the summer to refresh the team, you can clearly see this is a season too far for this particular squad.
Whether that's down to his arrogance thinking they are so far ahead of everyone it doesn't matter or just poor planning from above, he's been found out big time this season.
You love to see it.
Whether that's down to his arrogance thinking they are so far ahead of everyone it doesn't matter or just poor planning from above, he's been found out big time this season.
You love to see it.
I believe his days could be numbered. His team has folded up and his team selections have been way off. He's gone from genius to mad scientist overnight.
The players surely can't still be behind him!
The players surely can't still be behind him!
I think he would do better but don't think he sticks. Genuinely think the extension was to try and get some life in the squad for one last push. But and we have declined and are older. There is not reason to be shipping an average of 2-3 goals per game against any competent.
I'm not Pep out by the way, I'd love him to stay forever, but the pressure will break and Pep ball has been found out, heavily and quickly.
We shipped 5 vs Arsenal (4 in the 2nd half), we shipped 4 in the second half vs PSG, 4 vs Sporting (3 in the 2nd half iirc...), 4 vs Spurs , 2 vs Brentford (in the last 15 minutes), 2 in the second half vs Juve. 2 in the last 5 minutes vs United, 3 int he last 15 minutes vs Feyenoord.
The solution to us is simple. Lets us press till we're tired, than just put the ball down a wing away from out 1 midfielder against our full back who are always too far forward.
Personnel matters but tactically we've absolutely been found out this season.
We were competitive till Arsenal decided "These guys are shite" in my humble opinion. I mean its not the end of the world by any stretch but our football has gaping holes I don't think even Rodri and prime Walker could cover. Pep needs to adapt but I think he'll politely move on in an "mututal agreement" kind of way. I don't agree with it but its absolutely what I picture, the issue is when he does. I don't know how we sort ourselves out as we're not built for any other manager given the Pep clones all have jobs and our squad is not built for a different style of manager.
You either leave a hero, or you stay long enough to see yourself become the villain.
He was never a hero, just as scummy in his barca days as player and manager.
Tell that to the English TV pundits. The Catalan Messiah (minus the hair) has been held up to the skies as the greatest ever, even though they have been knee deep in shit and controversy.
I don't expect anything like that from the media, unlike other people on here. Journalists are scum.
Oh I agree - just wanted an excuse to post a Dark Knight quote
The double standards are sickening. Can you imagine if Fergie's United had as many accusations against them? We'd never hear the end of it.
Not a big fan of Pep and I think he needs to go.
But today’s performances was mainly the players. Stupid mistakes!
Foden is an awful player.
But today’s performances was mainly the players. Stupid mistakes!
Foden is an awful player.
People just assume they will buy and this issue will just go away. They've already shown they are replacing class with mediocre players by replacing Marhez with Doku. Stones, Walker, Silva and Gundegon and De Bruyne coming to an end with one already gone, they really need top draw to stay where they've been and it's hard to constantly get it right.
I can see a real drop off in quality and it's taken the loss of Rodri to totally expose it.
I mean what lunatic sat back and said it was fine to sell Alvarez and not replace him. So did they really think Haaland could play every minute of every match.
I can see a real drop off in quality and it's taken the loss of Rodri to totally expose it.
I mean what lunatic sat back and said it was fine to sell Alvarez and not replace him. So did they really think Haaland could play every minute of every match.
Obviously Pep signed contract extension but wouldn't be surprised if he leaves at the end of this season. 9 years at City, exhausted, personal issues like the recent divorce.. He could do with a year or two out of job to recharge and go again. Or even retire like Klopp (he's retired as a coach, right?).
Goal for this season is probably to finish top 4/5, try to go for it in Champions League (though it's really unlikely atm) and try to win the Fa Cup. It wouldn't be a great season but not bad either, they've won enough over last 7 years under Pep.
Goal for this season is probably to finish top 4/5, try to go for it in Champions League (though it's really unlikely atm) and try to win the Fa Cup. It wouldn't be a great season but not bad either, they've won enough over last 7 years under Pep.
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They are still 4th. Still in the champions league. Some in this thread going on as if they're bad as United and that a sacking in inevitable is a bit wishful thinking.
Yes, but we fell from 8th to 13th. They fell from treble + 4 successive wins to having Kai Havertz and teens score against them. Their fall is more spectacular - ours is more gradual so less entertaining
Is their fall spectacular? or just a completely natural conclusion to winning everything for 7 years
Wouldn't put it past Pep to stay and complete the rebuild himself (if the charges don't stick, that is)
Getting his Rodri replacement in Nico Gonzales
How can City sign Marmoush, Borat, Vítor Reis and Porto's best player Nico González? Financial fair play truly is a joke.
Probably the same way United has signed all the players they have signed.
Did United have made up sponsorship deals to cook the books? Does united have 115 charges? I must have missed that.
If I were him I'd retire in the summer and step up into either a DOF role or as an owner of a smaller club. Sounds like much more fun than the constant pressure of coaching and the guy has clearly lost whatever marbles he had left.
What does this even mean? You're complaining that City buys players that cost them aa much as the players United have bought this season. They have also sold players for a lot of money this season. Why wouldn't this be allowed in financial fair play?
What I'm saying is that I don't understand how a club under investigation, with 115 charges pending and with doubts about their revenue is able to keep doing this. United isn't under investigation for cooking the books, inflating comercial revenue or have any type of charges like City. Although badly United is just spending their hard earned money.
Yeah, I am not saying we haven't spent obscene amounts over the last decade or arguing about how we have got into our financial situation in the first place which people are well within their rights to do but any question about this window in particular are very misguided. We spent about 20 million in the summer on two players and have been sat firmly mid-table in the FFP league for quite a long time now.
The thing that is unprecedented is the fact that we actually are adding these players in January, which we wouldn't be if the decline were even gradual. The squad is pretty much in freefall, and targets are both brought forward ahead of next summer and also plugging gaps that should have been plugged last season
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So you want us to be temporarily punished before we are found guilty of something that you are only assuming we are guilty off?
And yes I know, we are either getting justice served or getting away with it though pure corruption because that makes sense, especially considering everyone have tremendous insight into the case and no tribal interest in it whatsoever. But even then being blocked out of the transfer market before the verdict hits is a bit unrealistic no? We will get our due if it is proven, and then we will be in trouble
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My problem isn't about this particular window. My problem is about how your club is ran, all the doubts regarding your management since your takeover, the charges etc. My problem isn't strictly about city though. I also dispise Chelsea or Newcastle. But that's just me, a paying associate of a traditional club who lives within their means. Not that I particularly blame you as a fan, I'm just against the rules that allow this to happen and that will end up ruining the competitive nature of football.
I am not sure why any of this matter. They do comply under FFP at this point, their net spend over the past three seasons are not exactly huge, which would mean they have room for recruitment. It's really nothing odd about it.
I want this matter to be settled as quickly as possible without state interference. I want your club to be really punished if you are indeed guilty as I think you are.