Penalties

Originally posted by giggzy:
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denying that owen didn't dive in them three games also speaks volumes..

...so care to answer my quetion?

or will u avoid it again??</strong><hr></blockquote>

In all 3 games there was contact...thats teh distinction that I'm making, one that you're too rattled to allow yourself to understand
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Originally posted by spinoza:
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Clearly some exaggeration is cheating.

I accept that diving is cheating, I don't accept that exaggeration is not.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well everyone's a cheat then in your book...or the vast majority of strikers anyway..

RVN especially as he does both exageration and diving
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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could he not have simply made a mistake??

like the ref did at anfield against WBA?

just a thought.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Course he could...

I'm not trying to suggest I've got the guaranteed answer...just making a suggestion that you fail to even consider because you don't like the implications for one of your fav players..
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Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>I don't know for sure but I have a feeling that refs might be starting look out for RVN playing for the penalty. .</strong><hr></blockquote>


I agree

Giggzy will talk to you about Owen for 3 pages now..
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If Owen does in fact go down too easily then would that count as a trick?

If so would that make him a 2 trick pony?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Well everyone's a cheat then in your book...or the vast majority of strikers anyway..

RVN especially as he does both exageration and diving</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Yes. Owen, Diouf and Heskey too. Bigger cheats perhaps.

There's a double standard at work here. If Van Nistelrooy is a cheat, as he certainly seems to be getting a reputation for (which I would still say is unjustified, for various reasons), then so is every Liverpool striker I have ever seen.
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Originally posted by spinoza:
If Van Nistelrooy is a cheat, as he certainly seems to be getting a reputation for (which I would still say is unjustified, for various reasons), then so is every Liverpool striker I have ever seen.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>


fuxache. . .

:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by spinoza:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Yes. Owen, Diouf and Heskey too. Bigger cheats perhaps.

There's a double standard at work here. If Van Nistelrooy is a cheat, as he certainly seems to be getting a reputation for (which I would still say is unjustified, for various reasons), then so is every Liverpool striker I have ever seen.</strong><hr></blockquote>

There's no double standard at work at all...

Diouf does go down looking for free kicks etc that are not there..I readily admit it and wish he'd feckin stop it, as along with the holding up of a pretend card to try to get another player booked, it is my pet hate in football...

Owen and Heskey don't go down when they haven't been touched tho...tho they do exagerate the fall when they are fouled...

But then I guess I'mj ust being myopic, unlike you Mancs who don't think RVN cheated against Ipswich....
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Originally posted by spinoza:
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:D Go back to Koptalk then.

I've my own opinions, which at least are based on the same standards.</strong><hr></blockquote>


opinions can be wrong, you know. they're not fecking inneffable.

and i wouldn't waste my time with koptalk. . . .

;)
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Originally posted by Davo:
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Owen and Heskey don't go down when they haven't been touched tho...tho they do exagerate the fall when they are fouled...
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So by this theory the guy that got Rio booked yesterday was not a cheat? And Rivaldo wasn't a cheat in the World Cup, right?

:rolleyes:
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But you will notice that the ref didn't give RVN a single penalty :mad:

It is a plot for sure.
 
Originally posted by osterdal:
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So by this theory the guy that got Rio booked yesterday was not a cheat? And Rivaldo wasn't a cheat in the World Cup, right?

:rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't be daft..

There's a big difference between trying to win a penalty when you are actually fouled and trying to get a man sent off with a pathetic dive..

Rio was stupid tho
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Well, Owen can dives all he wants to get as many penalties as he wishes to have...who cares? He can't score from them anyway.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Cracking response...

You know when you're beaten...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not beaten Davo, but there is no point arguing with the terminally blind or biased.
You carry on in your own happy little world, and keep taking the medication :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by andy27457:
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Not beaten Davo, but there is no point arguing with the terminally blind or biased.
You carry on in your own happy little world, and keep taking the medication :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Another post not related to the subject...

Spectacular
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Originally posted by Davo:
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Another post not related to the subject...

Spectacular</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry Davo, which particular post is it not related to!
You don't appear to be able to see that there are EMPHASISING contact is just as dishonest as any other form of cheating! Going of the same logic, it could be argued that RVN EMPHASISED his contact with an uneven piece of turf, or a blade of grass! Both are just as dishonest, and the fact that you are more likely to get away with one than the other doesn't change that one little bit.
Why not just be honest, and admit that Owen is as much a cheat, and diver as any other international forward

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
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Originally posted by andy27457:
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Sorry Davo, which particular post is it not related to!
You don't appear to be able to see that there are EMPHASISING contact is just as dishonest as any other form of cheating! Going of the same logic, it could be argued that RVN EMPHASISED his contact with an uneven piece of turf, or a blade of grass! Both are just as dishonest, and the fact that you are more likely to get away with one than the other doesn't change that one little bit.
Why not just be honest, and admit that Owen is as much a cheat, and diver as any other international forward

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You're back on topic now, which I suppose I should be thankful for...

But what you say is rubbish...which comes as a huge shock to me I can tell you!
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Originally posted by Davo:
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You're back on topic now, which I suppose I should be thankful for...

But what you say is rubbish...which comes as a huge shock to me I can tell you!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah well Davo, the's none so blind as those who will not see! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>Wouldn't that be "CAN not see"?</strong><hr></blockquote>

It depends on what you deem the cause of blindness...

Personally I just think blind people are extremely lazy
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Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>I agree. Just an excuse to sign on. Or work as a speech writer for Dubya.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sometimes I can't be arsed to move...that doesn't make me disabled.

Blind people just can't be arsed to see
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Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>If Owen does in fact go down too easily then would that count as a trick?

If so would that make him a 2 trick pony?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Come on Davo - answer my question ;)
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Or perhaps it is a trick question because his main "trick" isn't what it was.

It is no more, it has ceased to be, it has flown it's mortal coil, it is an ex-trick <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" />
 
Originally posted by Wibble:
<strong>Or perhaps it is a trick question because his main "trick" isn't what it was.

It is no more, it has ceased to be, it has flown it's mortal coil, it is an ex-trick <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

"Hat Trick" is what I believe you're looking for..

All about timing

;)
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You lucky bastard.

Little Mickey did you a favor in more senses than one <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
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