Paulo Dybala

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These theories about Spurs just doing this to arse around are daft. Given all they’ve got going on, they obviously think they can get this done. I’d also assume Dybala isn’t being quite so optimistic with his demands, given he knows Spurs don’t have our resources.
 
If they get him, where do they even play him? Kane is starting as the #9, Alli plays #10 and they also agreed a fee for Lo Celso, they have Son and Moura as the other two forwards. Their attack could be loaded.
 
Massive Spanner said:
So assuming Spurs get him I guess the wages and image rights thing was pure bollocks, and he just didn't want to play for us under Ole in the Europa? Christ.

If Spurs sign this lad then they've officially become a more attractive club to play footie for that Utd and it's all cause of that damn stadium brewery. Dark times.
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I think we knew Inter will make a new bid soon that meets our valuation of Lukaku and we decided to take the cash and save money.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Guarantee you they'll sign Lo Celso then pull out of Dybala.

This is Spurs, they couldn't afford a transfer window last season due to paying back the stadium, they won't suddenly go from that to over indulging.


Nope, we agreed wages. It was the third party image rights that was staggeringly high.
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Their stadium payments are only £25m a year. They have just signed a lucrative sponsor deal and also stadium naming rights. The stadium will pay for itself.

Spurs are flush with cash.
 
Kush said:
Don't think so, Agresti/Romano/Pedulla all reported he wanted £18m annual salary before tax from us which was apparently too high. So we never agreed on wages at all according to media.

However, I believe Dybala was never interested in joining us in first instance.
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No they did not
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
If they get him, where do they even play him? Kane is starting as the #9, Alli plays #10 and they also agreed a fee for Lo Celso, they have Son and Moura as the other two forwards. Their attack could be loaded.
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Eriksen is also still their player. Their first eleven ain’t improved imo. But their squad is a lot better.
 
Cassidy said:
First of all you equated 7.5m euros net a year to £300k a week which is wrong.
Secondly his wages are 7m euros net a year.
The tax rate in Italy is not 50% so you are making a mistake already is 43%

So if you do the maths correctly 7m euros a year is gross 12.25m euros a year which equates to 235 euros a week. Converting that to £s that comes to £216 a week
This also has not yet accounted for the tax free allowance etc, however this is is a lot closer to the approximation I did to £210K than your £300k which is way off
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Thank you for putting it so succinctly.

£210k is within Spurs wage budget then, they can genuinely pull it off. Fair play.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
So you’re willing to take the clubs briefing as gospel?
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What else is there to take? The club said Dybala didn't want to come here because of wages or whatever? That part may clearly be pure bollocks but ultimately, he didn't want to come here, yet he is happy to go to Spurs. Exactly what are we supposed to take from that?
 
RobinLFC said:
How could they not? They'd have to have at least some (right of use) of his image rights in order for the deal to go through. Even then, getting a marketable player with the highest transfer fee in your history and not acquiring his image rights is madness.

If they pull this off, which I think is highly unlikely because it's stupidly difficult to resolve these matters in less than 12 hours, I really want to know how they structured the image rights parts.
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At United we demand all control and then offer the player a percentage, it was a non starter for us. Where as I don't believe this is the case with Spurs. Also because of the Adidas association, I believe the issue was Dybala has to transfer all ownership to them.
 
Kush said:
Don't think so, Agresti/Romano/Pedulla all reported he wanted £18m annual salary before tax from us which was apparently too high. So we never agreed on wages at all according to media.

However, I believe Dybala was never interested in joining us in first instance.
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No one precised net or gross but one of the reports used Cavani gross wage as an example, they didn't precise that it was gross though which made me wonder about all this gross/net certitudes that people have on the caf.
 
Is the BBC a good enough source yet? By the way - still refusing to believe we will sign him.
 
Massive Spanner said:
What else is there to take? The club said Dybala didn't want to come here because of wages or whatever? That part may clearly be pure bollocks but ultimately, he didn't want to come here, yet he is happy to go to Spurs. Exactly what are we supposed to take from that?
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That’s we’re a shit run club that top class talent doesn’t want to join anymore, that’s what we’re supposed to take from it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
So assuming Spurs get him I guess the wages and image rights thing was pure bollocks, and he just didn't want to play for us under Ole in the Europa? Christ.

If Spurs sign this lad then they've officially become a more attractive club to play footie for that Utd and it's all cause of that damn stadium brewery. Dark times.
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Can you imagine if we acctually went ahead with the cheese room, Messi would be knocking on Levy's door :lol:.
 
JPRouve said:
This make no sense, we were talking about Dybala and why the move didn't happen and you are now talking about 3 players who aren't particularly rated and would cost north of 200m combined. If you were talking about adding +200m of spending then yes money is an issue, United isn't the Bank of England.
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Im talking about bringing in realistic signings who would be interesting in joining us. We might lose out on Dybala but there's still good options out there.

Also this huge investment is needed because the club had under invested for quite some times while also allowing players like Fellaini, Herrera and Lukaku to leave. It takes alot of £££ to stay on top. Money isn't there simply to pay the Glazer's debts.

If you're happy with just buying Maguire, AWB and the speed merchant from the Championship then fair enough. All I say is that I very much doubt we'll return on top with this squad.
 
balaks said:
Is the BBC a good enough source yet? By the way - still refusing to believe we will sign him.
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It’s Ornstien. I’m sure he’ll be your player come 5.
 
This is an interesting and informative text about why there was no deal with United:

Dybala was open to Red Devils' initial suggestion of a five-year contract worth nine million euros per season but the player's representative then demanded at least 12 million euros.

The Argentine's agent, Jorge Antun, met with Manchester United's directors in London and, just as it seemed that the figure had been agreed, Antun asked for 15 million euros as a signing-on fee, a demand which went down badly both with both clubs.

It now seems that there is a sense of annoyance with Antun, who is not a licensed football agent, and only got the role with Dybala due to a long-standing friendship with the Argentine's father.

There is another major problem in the drama being played out between Dybalaand Manchester United.

Normally, when a club buys a player, they also take over his image rights, but Dybala's belong to the Malta-based Star Image Company, with whom he is currently embroiled in a court case, after having withdrawn from a contract with them in 2017 under bad terms.
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Meanwhile we haven't spent shit all offseason and are watching how fecking Spurs of all teams get an amazing 25-year old player in the exact position we need reinforcements in. Pretty infuriating.
 
InLevyITrust said:
According to mainstream sources personal terms are agreed, its just the commercial rights, if Dybala wants to come it will be sorted if not he wont.
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Don't think it's that simple. He's in dispute over image rights so you're looking at forking out a massive sum of money to resolve that on top of the transfer fee and agents fees and wages....and that's subject to coming to an agreement to do that. Just seems like more trouble than it's worth for a player who if it was up to them wouldn't be leaving at all. Especially if it's true you only didn't sign Fernandez due to the fee.

I doubt his wage demands were ever the problem as far as we were concerned. We're paying lingard more than most clubs would pay Dybala. Plus in the real world no footballer is ever going to demand one wage from one club and then a smaller one from another a week later.
 
Cassidy said:
No they did not
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JPRouve said:
No one precised net or gross but one of the reports used Cavani gross wage as an example, they didn't precise that it was gross though which made me wonder about all this gross/net certitudes that people have on the caf.
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Romeo Agresti is Tier 1 for Juve, he said Dybala asks for Request: salary above 10 million net per year.

Assuming he's talking in £, given the tax rate in UK that works out at £18.1million

Here is the article - https://www.goal.com/it/notizie/cal...o-manchester-united/3spsv3bsrmki1leezcdglnk6f

I seem to remember demands of £10m net salary being reported by likes of Pedulla/Romano too, let me search for them.
 
devilish said:
Im talking about bringing in realistic signings who would be interesting in joining us. We might lose out on Dybala but there's still good options out there.

Also this huge investment is needed because the club had under invested for the past 2 years while it also allowed players like Fellaini, Herrera and Lukaku to leave. It takes alot of £££ to stay on top. Money isn't there simply to pay the Glazer's debts.
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And you responded to a post about the Dybala deal. Also this football club spend almost everything on the football team, around 95%.
 
hilarious the debate and meltdown that flows once a bit of information is released that may or may not ever happen..............
 
Feed Me said:
Yep, Mata and Lintard, we are well set
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So funny that no fecking body realizes that Dybala >>>>>> than these two. Spurs sign him and we offer new contracts to past it players. Wonderful really.
 
Spurs seemingly showing us up as the amateur operation we are on the footballing side now.
 
Flexdegea said:
hilarious the debate and meltdown that flows once a bit of information is released that may or may not ever happen..............
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BBC reporting a deal is close now
 
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