Well, it's a major drag having to scroll through pessimistic shite just to follow a string of debate. I'm sorry. I saw your post and wondered why you included Pogba and Ibra in a list of dross. That's all. Thank you for clearing it up
Paulo Dybala
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I genuinely was excited and wanted him to come but if it was purely for the money and his heart was not in it, then I believe we did the right thing in walking away. If the reported £350k per week is correct (The Times), that is an obscene amount and we have to get away from this habit of over paying.
Hope Dybala is happy now. His greed has cost him. Juve (Sarri) have said that they don't want him and he has no future there. He would have been loved by us but it's his loss.
Arrivederci
Hope Dybala is happy now. His greed has cost him. Juve (Sarri) have said that they don't want him and he has no future there. He would have been loved by us but it's his loss.
Arrivederci
What?
1. My point is we can't expect James to kick it straight away. He's a signing a bit like Dalot last season - not expected to hit the ground running and probably he will be eased into the starting line up with the more experienced Lingard, Mata, etc starting on the right.
2. Lukaku is still the best scorer in the club, especially as #9. You might not like it but so far neither Martial nor Rashford has given indications they can make that position their own. Greenwood is also another youngster that is not set in terms of position, hence we are short in the #9 department.
3. Attack and No 10. Not exactly. We look set to play with a #10 in a 4-2-3-1 which is very important position in that formation and we really lack the player to make it his own. Mata is not as good as he was and Pogba is more of an 8 than #10. We aren't short of bodies, but if that is your position then we didn't "need" CB either considering it's even more stacked than the midfield position, especially considering we already lost 2 midfielders in Fellaini and Herrera.
4. It's not a good business by all accounts. We struggled majorly the season just passed because the man that got it over the line refused to go for him last Summer. That cost us #4 and most probably targeting and acquiring players like Dybala and Sancho who rejected us most likely because we're out of CL. Also overpaying for a player that has been target for 2 years if you have got him last season and eased him into the squad and also been very important player last season is very much a Woodward thing.
Rumours tonight are that the discussions are still ongoing.
Not by anyone credible
This one is dead and buried.
Nevr going to happen
Glaston... I often feel people dismiss the (occasional...) validity of his points because of his rep. I was probably guilty of this too
I think it is more likely that Fergie will come out of retirement and his first signings will be Nani, Anderson and Ronaldo than signing Dybala at this point. Once you brief like this, there is no way back.
I agree.
The only way this will happen now is if he and his agent come crawling back and are willing to lower all demands, and that just isn't going to happen.
In your opinion perhaps. You do however seem do forget the first season when he was major factor in us finishing 2nd in the leauge, and the following season when we won a couple of silverware with an average supporting cast and has been coach. I don't know what kind of expectations you had for Pogba if you think that he has been a disappointment and that 89 million quid was too much money for him.
Did we sign Dybala last week mate?
Canal+ are reporting it now. And Dybala didn't really want to come to United.
PSG would be great for him and his girlfriend. They could instagram the whole city together.
Couples night with Di Maria
Couples night with Di Maria
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Even if he ends up in France, the original source was still shitBet you he ends up in France
James ducker, Paul Hirst, Simon Stone, all Utd media mouthpieces have confirmed they've walked away and deal is off, which is why it surprises me that people get sucked back in by stuff from poor Italian media sources.
Corriere delo Sport, calciomercato etc are absolute trash. If those Utd media puppets hadnt reported anything, id say the deal is very much alive, albeit Dybala isnt keen. But after yesterdays news, i think its dead in the water. You can't brief that you have walked away because Dybala and/or his people are asking too much money and they are put off by his lack of desire to join, going against OGS' blueprint, to then turn round and sign him.
Of course it could be a dramatic u turn and he signs, which would surprise me immensely, but i suspect the Dybala stuff is still being peddled because Lukaku as of this minute is more towards Juve than Inter.
Sarri could well have told Dybala he is not in his plans, but lest we forget Juve have another 3 and a half weeks or so to sell him. I have said a few times i reckoned if he left he'd go Inter with Icardi to Juventus. But i think it would not be a bad shout to say PSG will just cough up whatever Juve want and sign him
I wonder when this thread will pick up pace again?
Hopefully never. But i'm guessing it'll still be active until 5pm ThursdayI wonder when this thread will pick up pace again?
It could be we telling him to lower his wage demands. Let’s be honest he’s not worth the money being thrown about nor the agents fee. So now Dybala and his agent probably could come running back to us.
Roll on that time. Had a titful
Now if thats the case, and i'm pretty sure it won't be, as i'm now certain he isn't coming, it could be that he's waited for PSG and they've told him they have to offload Neymar before he can join, and he knows thats not going to happen, meaning his only real option is United...
But if thats the case, he can get to feck. I don't want us being anyones sloppy seconds. If we aren't his first choice, then don't bother coming.
Leaving the muppet cock out on this one...i'll see how it's doing in the morning, U.S. time.
Don't do it to yourself... This one is dead in the water my friend. It ceases to be, this is a non-transfer.
I've got a big sense of relief this deal didn't go through. It felt like he was being forced to make the move and his heart wasn't in it.
Yes, we would have a big name player but as we know from the past, that means nothing unless they have the hunger to win
Yes, we would have a big name player but as we know from the past, that means nothing unless they have the hunger to win
Pedulla saying meetings still ongoing anyway. He's considered quite reliable, as far as football journalists go I guess.
Translation :
- Tomorrow is key
- Dybala accepted United’s financial proposal but other things are stalling the deal.
- Dybala was told by Sarri that he’s no longer needed at the club.
Probably all horseshite, but there you are.
Think this might be a case of dragging out the link to keep getting clicks.
Translation :
- Tomorrow is key
- Dybala accepted United’s financial proposal but other things are stalling the deal.
- Dybala was told by Sarri that he’s no longer needed at the club.
Probably all horseshite, but there you are.
Think this might be a case of dragging out the link to keep getting clicks.
It's...on?
Refusing to pay agents fee of 15 mil., football is really deep in criminal waters, level of shady increasing each year. Seems nobody wants/cant stop whole thing. What if Dybala really wants to join us but we still refuse to pay agents fee demand of 15mil. , are they working for players or the other way around.
If he really wanted to join us, he could insist that his agent (who i believe is his brother?) drop his crazy request.
My guess is, if he really has decided to accept our wage package, he was banking on Sarri taking his side today, saying that he's wanted and he'll stay, and instead he got told he's not wanted and needs to find a new club. PSG have told him they need to offload Neymar before they can buy him, and he's told his agent he's willing to go to United on our terms.
Problem is, as has been said, we've briefed that we're no longer interested, so how do we come around from that? It's not really possible as Dybala won't want to make himself look weak, or like he has no say in his future, especially after all his guff about having a say in his future etc. It's a stalemate, and because of that, personally, i feel it's dead.
I personally think agents should be banned and there should be some sort of global body that helps players not get screwed over by clubs. Would cut all this bullshit right out.
Are you doing the Dead Parrot sketch from Monty Python?
Seemed appropriate in this situation.
Read The Athletic's article about what actually happens in the transfer window if you want a bit of an insight. Sounds like a mixed bag, some agents don't inform players of interest unless the interested club agrees to pay their fee first. Sounds shady as hell.
Like him not actually wanting to come here?
If we’ve supposedly agreed wages, and both clubs have agreed the deal with each other then what’s left?
I have now witnessed the dead parrot sketch. Thank you.
I will now refer to dead transfer deals as dead parrots.
This agent fee and the image rights.
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