I thought Lukaku was his best friend before Lukaku joined the club? Or is this more excuses for Pogba?
Paulo Dybala
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Pogba EPL last season:
> 13 goals
> 9 assists
> 7 MOTM
> team’s leading scorer ahead of Lukaku whilst having the team funnel the ball to him at every chance in order to get any sort of footballing going for the team, on top of being doubled/tripled by defenders knowing he’s all we have to generate an attack.
That’s a hell of an “excuse” if that’s what you want to call it. And the fact Lukaku has virtually no technical skills and can’t control a ball if his life depended on it.
Bringing in a player who dont want to come to please our sponsors. Sounds familiar.
And yet, he's still not disciplined enough defensively to play a midfield role properly. It's all nice having all these attacking stats, which we already know he's fantastic at, but watch games and you'll know how imbalance our midfield becomes when he plays. The fact that people are still talking about which midfielders we should buy to complement Pogba tells the story. Now it's even, which attacking players to buy so that he can be more disciplined.
Who said he doesn’t want to come here?
As it stands currently, Dybala will have to choose between being a squad player on Juvé AKA not a regular starter (as crazy as that sounds considering his quality). If he’s not happy with that, he’ll let them know he’s fine leaving in which case we’ll take him with open arms and vice versa as he leaves them.
There’s me thinking we was just trying to get rid of Lukaku.
For people who can't remember, Castles linked us with Dybala all the way back in May. As for as I am concerned, it all depends on Ole. If he wants him. I believe he gas a plan. Even the practical aspects make sense. Dybala fits what Ole is trying to do far more than Lukaku ever will. Not only that, Dybala can play three positions to a reasonable extent and is better in all three positions than Mata and Lingard. We would be getting an amazing, yes an amazing talent for a player we don't want and at little cost.
I have followed him since gis Palermo days, when we were first linked and can't believe some of the things I have read. Last season has completely painted the wrong picture about him. The whole Juve team was built to support Ronaldo. That's why Allergic tended to look to Zuka and feckin Cuadrado. He wonhave such problems. I don't know why people say he can't press when he gas never been asked to do so. Have are a defensive team. Most of these journalists are saying Ole likes him, I would choose to have faith in him.
I have followed him since gis Palermo days, when we were first linked and can't believe some of the things I have read. Last season has completely painted the wrong picture about him. The whole Juve team was built to support Ronaldo. That's why Allergic tended to look to Zuka and feckin Cuadrado. He wonhave such problems. I don't know why people say he can't press when he gas never been asked to do so. Have are a defensive team. Most of these journalists are saying Ole likes him, I would choose to have faith in him.
I refuse to believe this is happening.
I want to believe, it certainly has more steam already than the Bruno and obviously shite link to SMS.
Di Maria has really done a number on some people. Even if Dybala would prefer to stay at Juve and would only be joining us reluctantly, that doesn't mean he'll handle it the same way Di Maria did.
Even Di Maria's situation had a combination of factors. He came reluctantly to play under the wrong manager at the wrong time. For a player of Dybala's quality I think it's worth the risk.
Even Di Maria's situation had a combination of factors. He came reluctantly to play under the wrong manager at the wrong time. For a player of Dybala's quality I think it's worth the risk.
Let's put it this way, would you rather have Lingard with all the workrate or Dybala with a little less workrate?
Yeah being the penalty taker helped those goal stats considerably even considering the stupid run up and the too many penalty misses
If we are actually interested in him. Im convinced we have every chance of making him want to join us. After all we can increase his salary, guarantee him a starting spot and one of his best friends in football (Pogba) is still our player
We need players who are technically sound and can create a goal out of nothing. Dybala fits the bill. With Ole preferring 4231, he'll be able to play in his favored position which is a big plus.
Well yea, you sort of answered your own questions.
A large part of his imbalance is due to not having players on the same wavelength as him around him. He’s the only player we have that is world class, everyone else is levels below. It’s hard to be consistent when you’re asked to do everything. Play advanced, create, but then also track all the way back when the team loses the ball.
It’s not about a midfielder to compliment Pogba, it’s having a quality team that can match his level. Great players play on great teams and he is not on one atm. There’s a reason why he looks out of place on United but never when he goes for international duty or his days in Juventus. He doesn’t have to do everything there and can actually rely on teammates who are capable footballers.
He was also in the top 10 of chances created in the entire league
This. I lost count of the amount of games where we were shit going forward, Pogba got frustrated and started going forward more resulting in gaps left behind him. If we have a decent attacking setup he would not have gotten frustrated so easily and thus venture out of his position. It is obvious to anyone who watches our games last season - shut Pogba down and our whole offense is gone.
Where did Dybala play last year? Basically, is 5 league goals something to be concerned about if he's to replace Lukaku? Because I don't have any problem with losing Lukaku at all but we will lose 15 goals and I'm just wondering if Dybala can provide them? Not saying either way, just asking as didn't watch any Serie A last year.
Not really excited by this. I don't rate him that highly but considering our squad, there's potential for improvement with him
It has a touch of the Di Maria’s to it (who I was delighted to sign) but if Ole has any say in the matter I’ll feel more confident as he has more interest in the clubs long term prospects. If he feels it’s right I’m ok with
Dybala has scored double figures for the last five seasons of his career. I am pretty sure the entire team would create more with him in it as well.
He mostly played on the right and sometime as deep as an attacking midfielder. Last season is the worst of his European career but there were mitigating factors. Season before last he socred 28 goals, I think.
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Great player would love him here but again where would he play? This is the quandary Juve and particularly Allegri have faced with him. He is can play everywhere but has weaknesses that make him not suitable. Yes he can play on the wing. He is fast but he doesn’t quite have the top speed of a winger and he doesn’t have the defensive side to track back. Yes he can play as a striker but he doesn’t have the hold up, discipline or the strength of a number 9. He is not quite an attacking midfielder for the same reasons. He is probably a 9.5 or a number 10. So where will we play him? On yhe right wing like we shoved Mata, Lingard not in there natural position? A number 10 then push Pogba as a two who has never worked in a 2.
Our main problem has been recruiting players that dont fit. This is another one
Our main problem has been recruiting players that dont fit. This is another one
Not sure about that, RVP was a pretty gun striker the year he signed for us
Only the OG's know you're an arsenal fan mate
Chief, where is his best position, behind the main striker?
He is a quality player, but I’d say the chance of not signing him would be 99%.
Of course if we did I’d be happy.
Of course if we did I’d be happy.
I'm not sure where we're gonna play Dybala in our team really. As long as I've seen him play he was always an AM in front of a double pivot midfield.
Now tell me how are we gonna fit him and Pogba in the same team without creating the same problem we have with Mkhitaryan before? We'll have to either play Pogba in a double pivot or push Dybala into the wings where he is uncomfortable. That's exactly why Dybala isn't playing for Juventus anymore, same like Ozil problem in Arsenal. No one is playing 4-5-1 anymore.
Now tell me how are we gonna fit him and Pogba in the same team without creating the same problem we have with Mkhitaryan before? We'll have to either play Pogba in a double pivot or push Dybala into the wings where he is uncomfortable. That's exactly why Dybala isn't playing for Juventus anymore, same like Ozil problem in Arsenal. No one is playing 4-5-1 anymore.
Surely would be the end for martial ? Both at their best by far as a second striker and neither are going to be great pressers compared to rashford James or lingard. I guess dybala will be a similar presser to Mata
In my opinion he can absolutely play on the right of a front 3. No, he's not a traditional winger but we now have an incredibly quick and strong RB who would be excellent cover for him. Dybala would be an incredible upgrade on what we have.
It’s amazing how low Dybala’s stock has fallen because of one under par season. He’s of an age and level of quality that makes him a very worthwhile risk.
Dybala and Pogba played together in 2015-16 and both had very good season.
I would be very nervous about this signing.
It seems like he wants to stay at Juventus, and is having to be persuaded to come here effectively with money. After a summer of building spirit and incorporating a high intensity/high press we want to sign a diminutive number 10 type who likes to float around up top and not do any defensive work. He doesn't speak English, will most likely not particularly like Manchester, and will obviously hate the weather. With both the national team and with Juventus he has shown an inability to adapt to any system that doesn't play 100 percent to his strengths and playing style. His brother is a gobshite.
Hope I'm wrong but it has "Di Maria esque failure" written all over it. I can't help but feel that people are using their experiences on FIFA to judge how good of a signing this would be, rather than the cold reality.
I'd rather have the money please.
It seems like he wants to stay at Juventus, and is having to be persuaded to come here effectively with money. After a summer of building spirit and incorporating a high intensity/high press we want to sign a diminutive number 10 type who likes to float around up top and not do any defensive work. He doesn't speak English, will most likely not particularly like Manchester, and will obviously hate the weather. With both the national team and with Juventus he has shown an inability to adapt to any system that doesn't play 100 percent to his strengths and playing style. His brother is a gobshite.
Hope I'm wrong but it has "Di Maria esque failure" written all over it. I can't help but feel that people are using their experiences on FIFA to judge how good of a signing this would be, rather than the cold reality.
I'd rather have the money please.
So Pogba and Dybala playing in a 3-5-2 is what we are comparing to us now?
Pogba played in a 3 man midfield and Dybala was playing behind a lone striker. Do you see us doing that?
They played in different setup to what we have right now. We don't have the midfield to support that system.
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Surely we won't swap lukaku for dybala.
Swaps never happen!
Swaps never happen!
Aren’t they supposed to be good mates? I wonder what Pogba is telling him about the club? all very positive I’m sure
Behind the striker/strikers. In the middle
Yes. Also, I’d add Mariotta (Inter) was interested in Dybala so jacking his transfer price and flogging him to England is another win for Juve.
Thanks, Chief.
In the current system Pogba is playing as deeper midfielder, so Dybala will obviously play as AM.
IIRC they also played together in 4-3-1-2 formation.
I'm surprised you say that. We have no natural ten. Neither do we have any one competent down the right. He is a natural 10. Plus a top right side attacker. Plus he can operate at the tip of a diamond midfield. A system our current boss also favours
They are super rare compared to the number of times they actually get reported as possible in the press.
Mkhitaryan for Sanchez is the last one I can remember actually happening.
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