I'm just saying, if I was offered a new job with a significant pay raise in a new country, if I was the slightest bit excited, the last thing on my mind would be to take a nap.
Paulo Dybala
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I live in Salford, pretty close to Old Trafford actually, and whilst it does have it's flaws, Salford and Manchester are perfectly fine places to live.
Lots to do, people are (mostly) nice, great diversity, it's just an all round good place.
Plus you have to remember, maybe Sarri isn't free? Maybe he can't see him until tomorrow? It might not be as simple as barging into his office and demanding a chat.
Plus how do we know a meeting hasn't taken place? Just because it hasn't been reported yet, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
I work with a lot of Italians who obviously don't agree with you as they have chosen to work in England.
If I'm running a hedge fund, or working at a law firm, maybe. If I'm a famous footballer from Argentina, there's no debate, Italy is the better choice.
Even if the English club is offering a lot more money at a much larger club? In a great city nevertheless
So does that mean all these latino players at other clubs here in England are being held against their will to play at a club in a country they despise, when they could be living the life of luxary in Italy or elsewhere??
By your logic, all these South American players in the Premier League are being forced to play here against their will because they'd much rather be chilling on a beach in the med!
I hope you're right
We all knew a day before the meeting that Dybala wanted to have a meeting, so I'm guessing Sarri knew too. I'm just saying, I'm not feeling optimistic at all.
Dybala to reject United seems real... unless you will overpay his wages (on Sanchez level or so)
I love how the last few years has caused us to doubt everything.
Even when we were linked with Sanchez, everyone said it wouldn't happen and he'd go to City, and theres no way he'd ever want to play for United. Same with Pogba, everyone shot the links down right away saying he was Madrid bound and anyone who thought differently was stupid etc. We might not be the same team as we were under SAF, but United still have that lure and appeal to players and i imagine there will still be loads of guys who would love to play for us.
I think this is a obvious fact that southamericans have always had a big tradition and preference of playing and living in Serie A / Italy for language,culture,lifestyle,weather,landscapes,food,etc than in the grey, foggy, cold England... but of course since the money have taken their way to England now the only attractive for Uk is simply that, accept it.
There's many factors at play here - Dybala, Juventus' #10 (same significance as our #7), had one bad season and was traded out of the blue by his club - by all accounts, he feels betrayed and angry.
So Juve's made clear he's done in Turin. There's an offer from United, a very good one at that. However, he's never expressed an ambition to play in the PL. (It's always been Real/Barca followed by PSG. ) We are in flux and have been since SAF retired. We play in the EL. But we are offering a higher salary, the manager seems to fancy him. He has to weigh all that in.
I think before he signs off on United, he will explore two other options in my opinion - Inter and PSG.
Now Inter can offer Icardi, a player Juve covets. Icardi wants to go to Juve. It's a complicated deal, but an exchange can happen.
PSG is still waiting to decide on Neymar, and if they offload him I can see Dybala fitting in there.
I don't expect this to get resolved this week.
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You've missed the point completely.
You mean their lack of professionalism is often excused there because of the general lack of professionalism there as opposed to England/Germany. Also the language issue and that it’s harder to get non EU work permits for unproven youngsters from SA. England is attractive for a lot more than just money, but footballing wise the league had a reputation of being too physical and tactically not as astute, which might have turned certain players away. Your post is just some weird hate boner for England over Italy when Italy is objectively much more of a shithole.
Also players go to Italy and Spain specifically because of the money as well. Inter were famous in the 90s for paying well which drew big players like Ronaldo there.
I'm not sure which south Americans are moving to Italy for the language? South American countries all speak Spanish or Portuguese.
They join City to win trophies these days, and Liverpool because of their history and success on the pitch. Your way of thinking is decade old.
Always nice to know that i can come on to the Caf and learn about various cultural differences between Turin and Manchester in a Dybala transfer thread
Is Dybala done yet ? Cant wait for him !!
Don’t think this will happen sadly. Just my gut feeling. Too good to be true.
Geez how hard is it understand that deals between clubs happen on a more open basis and no hence more people/journalists come to know about them but how many people are privy to conversations between a player and his agent?
What’s “you guys” supposed to mean. I am from Manchester.
This idea of Serie A meaning feck all doesn’t resonate with everyone. Especially non United fans...
Can’t understand this entitled mentality of everyone wants to play for United. The truth is more players would find Juventus attractive right now.
We're in a strong enough financial position to be relatively comfortable with overpaying on the wages front. So why not?
And that's what it will take to get him to sign since we're out of the CL.
I am approaching this how a player would who has no connection to the club. This idea of the Italian league meaning feck all doesn’t apply to every person. Even Pogba would probably prefer to be there right now.
I actually don’t remember a great professionist coming from Uk to Italy (aside from John Charles) most of them were always drunk and with bad attitude inside and outside the pitch, and it’s not a secret that most of them failed here even though they were good or even considered legends in England (jimmy greaves, denis law, Ian rush, etc)
You called Italy a shithole and I’m a “hate boner” of England? Come on man, you have no clue.
Surely there would be some news by now. Wtf is Sarri doing with our boy, let him go
You could also go to much better places as well. Manchester is culturally great and has infinite recreational activities but it isn’t ‘nice’, it is ok.
Italian and Spanish are both romance languages so it's far easier for a South American to learn Italian than English. Most can understand Italian fresh off the boat.
Our boy. 
Sorry, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
EDIT - I’ve worked it out. As I said, you sound quite selective, which is fine and your choice but at least acknowledge it. Same people you believe when they’re talking about the deal you want to discredit when they’re talking about players preferences/reservations. How hard is it to understand journalists have club and agent contacts?
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Greaves didn't want to sign for Milan and tried to cancel the contract but they wouldn't let him. He did fairly decent in his brief time there though but inevitably fell out with the coach. Dennis Law was voted best foreign player in the season he was there but hated the defensive style of football and wanted to leave. Rush didn't do too well but his form never recovered when back in England to what it was before he went to Italy.
Classic @Suedesi hating on England. Shock horror.
I'd rather live in England every time over Italy. I've been to Milan & Rome and whilst Rome had impressive history, both cities were incredibly run down in many areas and the amount of people who were homeless was shocking. The climate is obviously better for someone coming from Argentina but Italy has a shit ton of issues as a country, even more so than England.
London>any Italian city. Hands down. Shit, I'd even take Manchester over the two I went to.
Aren't you making my point for me?
Although the shithole comment was more in response to the "England being a shithole" comment earlier and is slightly tongue in cheek, you can't deny Italy is closer to being a third world country than England is.
It wouldn't surprise me if he backed himself to get game time at Juventus, he clearly has a special relationship with the club and it's fans and he would probably outstay Sarri. Depends a lot on the guy's pride, ambition, bravery etc. It's a huge decision at a pivotal stage in his career, so I don't think it'll be agreed anytime soon.
Argentina is to Italy/Spain, what Australia is to the UK/Ireland.
Dybala has Italian family, for instance. Messi is of both Italian and Spanish heritage. Pretty sure Maradonna is, too.
In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in Argentina who doesn't trace their lineage back to either Italy or Spain or both. It's one of the historical reasons why Argentinians feel such a close sporting affinity to Italian/Spanish clubs. Chances are, they have family who supported one of those teams back in the old country.
#FreeDybala
The more I think about it the more im wary about signing a player who doesnt want to be here, we have enough of those already.
Are you constantly repeating this line?
Or is it just the only thing being sprung from the negative mouths of redcaf members for the last 3 years?
Sarri isn't a manager that likes to rotate. He'll have his preferred team and those that don't fit into it will have limited minutes.
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