His previous seasons before Ronaldo arrived were much better.
Paulo Dybala
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@haram here is what Juventus fans are saying about your man,
Best case scenario now that the big teams are out of the CL is they will likely go on a spending spree.
Let the bidding war begin for Dybala
Or he stays bc Max leaves this summer
Then he continues to under achieve and under perform, under the new coach. Yet he continues to be overrated by folks
Dybala is hardly the flavour of the month right now so I'm not sure there will even be a bidding war in the first place
his brightest moment was 1.5 seasons ago
He hardly even sets up his teammates anymore.
I also think he is mentally weak and limited. Perfect combination for a sale. I hope I'm wrong, but I am not sure what exactly a coach can do to get the old Dybala back? max tried him in different roles, different formations etc...nothing seemed to work.
Not sure superstars sink as far as he has, he has been consistently poor which is worse than inconsistently good and bad IMO.
At this point him leaving is a win-win situation. His skillset will be more useful somewhere else and we could use the money.
Swap him with Pogba
I'd rather have 35yo Alé at this point
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/paulo-dybala.41180/
So is that the running excuse then?
Best case scenario now that the big teams are out of the CL is they will likely go on a spending spree.
Let the bidding war begin for Dybala
Or he stays bc Max leaves this summer
Then he continues to under achieve and under perform, under the new coach. Yet he continues to be overrated by folks
Dybala is hardly the flavour of the month right now so I'm not sure there will even be a bidding war in the first place
his brightest moment was 1.5 seasons ago
He hardly even sets up his teammates anymore.
I also think he is mentally weak and limited. Perfect combination for a sale. I hope I'm wrong, but I am not sure what exactly a coach can do to get the old Dybala back? max tried him in different roles, different formations etc...nothing seemed to work.
Not sure superstars sink as far as he has, he has been consistently poor which is worse than inconsistently good and bad IMO.
At this point him leaving is a win-win situation. His skillset will be more useful somewhere else and we could use the money.
Swap him with Pogba
I'd rather have 35yo Alé at this point
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/paulo-dybala.41180/
So is that the running excuse then?
He's not "my man". He is just better than Martial. If you cannot accept that, then ok. You have quoted me in this thread when I said I was done in the other thread. I can quote people saying that they shouldn't sell him as well, what's your point?
You cant defend Martial and then try and call Dybala out, you just look like a hypocrite.
Again, no one is saying Martial is world class, not even me, but you defend Dybala as if he's a superstar and im saying he's far from it. I quoted you here in the proper thread so us not to derail the Martial thread with talk of this massively overrated player.
Martial is the one that is massively overrated. We are not going to agree, that's why I said I was done in the other thread.
Hope we contain our thirst for big names.
Does anyone consider Martial world class or a superstar? Nope. Juventus fans are calling Dybala overrated and mentally weak and the internet is awash with discussions over how overrated he is. Buy hey ho
The internet is awash with discussions over how overrated Martial is. Dybala is the one who scored over 20 league goals last season and is not benefitting from the arrival of Ronaldo.
I don't think that thirst will ever be quenched for certain fans despite previous recent flops like Di Maria, Falcao etc. I'll be upset if United splash stupid money on this guy, especially after all the Solskjaer talk about promoting young players and wanting hard working players (Dybala has a poor workrate). We need quality signings of course, but some players are not built for the PL and live on nothing but hype
I mean he may do well but why sign a player who A) has positional issues and B) is going through a terrible phase.
Again, no one is calling Martial world class or Ballon d'or material like they are with Dybala. He's never lived up to the hype. His fellow countryman Verratti is another example of a massively overrated player. They are world class on FIFA though
I don’t mind the player but I’m getting a terrible gut feeling we’re only linked to him because Ed’s delusional thinking so therefore I’d rather we not get him:
“When people see Dybala on the team sheet, that’s going to send some shivers down their spine”
...if it comes to fruition, watch it end up being another big money signing misfit
“When people see Dybala on the team sheet, that’s going to send some shivers down their spine”
...if it comes to fruition, watch it end up being another big money signing misfit
If we are going to use a false 9 (which is why I would want Dybala signed), we have to consider him if he is for sale.
I agree. United have always struggled to accommodate players like this.
I dont care. Dybala is still better than Martial. People hype Martial up as potentially world class and the lad hasn’t even progressed a single bit in 3 years. Verratti is another wonderful player but that’s another topic.
Comparing Dybala and Martial? Why? They don't play same position and doesnt matter if Dybala is better as he wont replace Martial.
You will have to go into the Martial thread to see the conversation.
Verratti and dybala aren't countrymen. Dybala is Argentinian and verratti is Italian.
Yeh. He's hard worker while skillful also. What's wrong with some people here.
As long as the price and wage are right, we should be all over him.
It will make no difference what so ever if we sign him and still have matic lingard mata smalling jones young playing in our team.
Dybala. Is. Better.
Yet his stats are similar to Martials, he's only had 2 good seasons since he joined Juventus
My mistake
You removed the post but the assists stats comparison does not move me at all. You are free to think what you want about the two players.
Quality player but not suitable for high intensity EPL. Unless he can adopt himself like David Silva. I would rather we go for Joao Felix or Pepe. Hakim Ziyech, who is a similar player has a release clause of only 25 m.
Juve fan here.
He has the talent only few players in the world might have. At his best he is easily top 10 player in the world.
He has been a number 9 in every club he has played until he got here and Allegri started to play him with each season further and further away from goal, because of our poor midfield, he drops back and helps the build up more than getting ball at further end to convert them. It's like playing Aguero as a midfield and call him overrated because he can't operates like before.
At his first season Max took him one step away from goal and played him in SS position. The kid did an amazing job and became our best goal scorer and best player of the year for us with scoring around 25 goals despite us losing Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio being injured all season.
In his second season the lack of creative MF and us selling the our only creative player to Manchester United , Allegri took this guy one more step away from goal to compensate the lack of creativeness. He became a number 10 in 4231 formation in that season and again he absolutely dominated teams with scoring goals and creating for fun. We went all the way and were 45 minutes away from winning a treble with this guy being the core of the team.
The next season after he continued his great form and scored about 15 goals in 13 games at the beginning of the season until got injured for 3 months and when he came back he was rusty but manged to win us the Scudeto with his last minutes Goals And assists against teams like Lazio, Inter and...
Finally this season started, we brought the best player in the world, this season was the one Allegri completely rekt everything with his systems selection of his players. First of all he ditched 4231 while we have Ronaldo, Costa, Bernardeschi , Cuadrado and Cancelo as wingers an played some stupid formations that let Dybala plays in some sort of position between the right fullback and CM. He made Dybala a midfielder this time and expected him to deliver once again. But this boy isn't a robot his form dropped massively and got benched or played in midfield all season long. The only time Allegri played him as a number 9 this season was against Manchester and in both game he was fantastic, but he got benched the next game after Mandzukic came back from injury and never played there again.
His drop of form is completely on the coach. He is the guy i won't even like to see news about his departure. I'm sure with the new coach coming in he wouldn't let this gem to be sold and make him flourish again.
He has the talent only few players in the world might have. At his best he is easily top 10 player in the world.
He has been a number 9 in every club he has played until he got here and Allegri started to play him with each season further and further away from goal, because of our poor midfield, he drops back and helps the build up more than getting ball at further end to convert them. It's like playing Aguero as a midfield and call him overrated because he can't operates like before.
At his first season Max took him one step away from goal and played him in SS position. The kid did an amazing job and became our best goal scorer and best player of the year for us with scoring around 25 goals despite us losing Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio being injured all season.
In his second season the lack of creative MF and us selling the our only creative player to Manchester United , Allegri took this guy one more step away from goal to compensate the lack of creativeness. He became a number 10 in 4231 formation in that season and again he absolutely dominated teams with scoring goals and creating for fun. We went all the way and were 45 minutes away from winning a treble with this guy being the core of the team.
The next season after he continued his great form and scored about 15 goals in 13 games at the beginning of the season until got injured for 3 months and when he came back he was rusty but manged to win us the Scudeto with his last minutes Goals And assists against teams like Lazio, Inter and...
Finally this season started, we brought the best player in the world, this season was the one Allegri completely rekt everything with his systems selection of his players. First of all he ditched 4231 while we have Ronaldo, Costa, Bernardeschi , Cuadrado and Cancelo as wingers an played some stupid formations that let Dybala plays in some sort of position between the right fullback and CM. He made Dybala a midfielder this time and expected him to deliver once again. But this boy isn't a robot his form dropped massively and got benched or played in midfield all season long. The only time Allegri played him as a number 9 this season was against Manchester and in both game he was fantastic, but he got benched the next game after Mandzukic came back from injury and never played there again.
His drop of form is completely on the coach. He is the guy i won't even like to see news about his departure. I'm sure with the new coach coming in he wouldn't let this gem to be sold and make him flourish again.
There's no point. The fact remains Dybala is more overrated than Martial and he's not lighting up the Italian league. He's 26 now as well and on par with Martial in terms of contribution to his team
Martial has never been anywhere near the heights Dybala has reached. And he looks to be going backwards because he doesn’t give a feck.
Dybala’s poor season on the other hand can at least be explained away.
Ronaldo? The coach not knowing how to use him? What reasons? Martial has outperformed him this season in a mess of a club. I await your explanation.
Ronaldo FC is the clear issue for Dybala, they don't fit and Ronnie prefers the big Croatian to play off. Dybala had 3 good seasons prior to that in terms of output.
Because that is what makes him gettable.
Not that I think he'd be amazing for you, but where united is at you have to start looking at players that are not the complete package and look at the possibilities for how to improve them, rather than look for the finished product everytime (di Maria, Falcao, Schweinsteiger, matic, sanchez).
He's a much more talented player than 99% of players you could get. The question isn't about his poor season, but whether there is something the club can do differently to bring out the best in him.
We need to start somewhere, though. And getting Dybala is a very good start.
To be fair Di Maria was at the same age when we signed as Dybala is right now.
He's had 2 good seasons, his first season and last season. He was poor in his second in addition to the current one
Really? I've been lingarded on this then.
Yeah Di Maria was 26 when we signed him. Dybala is 25 and half.
He bagged 19 in his 2nd season, only 4 less then his first season, it was still good.
It will be a very poor start. Like you are spending your money on a cosmetic surgery fixing your face while you need to have a open heart surgery to secure your health.
I don't understand you. What having Jones and Young got to do with getting Dybala?
His first season for Juve was 2015/16, that's when he scored 19. His second season was poor because he was expected to build on the first and he was first to admit his struggles