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I don't think your post was that far off, he isn't a defensive midfield and his passing is more associated with a attacking midfielder. He is just one of those players who picks passes's 'dictates tempo' which fair better in a possession based teams. I don't think he is what we need or that Real would sell so wouldn't be cheaper. Not sure why he would a certain person would name drop him because he is certainly not a box to box and certainly no Roy Keane.
. Thankfully I'm not the worst!
Mate, at least you're posting your opinion about whether Pogba would be worth the fee, what we need etc.
That guy literally comes in and say OMG is this thread still alive, worst transfer Eva, boring, close the thread or I'll hang myself!
If Rooney gets dropped, itl be mkhitaryan at number 10. Mk is a very very good number 10, and Id have him there over Wayne and Pogba tbh.
Wrt Pogba, he's such a complete athelete that it's almost a waste to have him just as a number 10. I'd rather see him fully utilised in a box to box role.
Kroos was more of an attacking midfielder at Bayern, from what I've seen of him. At Madrid his job is somewhat less advanced - definitely seems to play a tad deeper, with his main job to build play in order to service the world class attackers playing ahead of him. Carries a goal threat, too, but that's definitely not his main function in that Madrid side.
He's such a likable player but he has been crap thus far. Will wait to see if Jose utilizes him differently than LVG did before writing him off. Mata too.
Hopefully not like Cavani. It felt like he was never even here.
He is used to playing in a midfield 3, or effectively a 5 with Juventus 3-5-2 though. And that is in a league with less pressing and intensity as opposed to the PL.
He didn't exactly convince in a midfield 2 for France during the EC.
I think that the best way to get the most out of Pogba is a midfield 3, and hopefully we will switch to a 4-3-3. Perhaps Pogba, Zlatan, Martial and Rashfords presence in this United side is finally enough to get rid of Rooney as a guaranteed starter and poster boy. Surely Zlatan and Pogba is already more marketable, and Martial and Rashford will become more marketable in a season or two.
Definitely agree with that.
Let's get this one done by Tuesday and then we camp out in the Bonucci thread!
At least you are signing players.
Oh snap!
I don't agree with what you're saying. I can also understand people not enjoying (to a certain extent at least) what they perceive as repetitive negativity. However, I think you're probably sincere in your views and not just saying it to annoy others. You're obviously not convinced by the guy which is entirely fair. My father is another person who doesn't think Pogba is all that either.
I think at the very least he'll bring back some much needed excitement and entertainment to our style of play. Hell, how long have we been missing that for? Some might even say as far back as the last couple of years of Fergie's reign.
And possibly even better than that he could play a huge part in leading us to the league title this season. I don't think it's a stretch to consider this a good possibility and if he does it'll be an excellent first steep towards him justifying his fee.
And this is exactly why I don't think you're out to piss people off. If you were you certainly wouldn't be saying this but rather talking some guff about 'Real Madrid coming back in for him'. Dealing with these types is hard enough but the sheer credulity of those that defend them is arguably even worse as I discovered the other day. In contrast those talk about his ability and relative value are (for my mind at least) contributing to the overall discussion.
Apart from the stock Rooney put-down (too tiresome to bother with), you raise an interesting q: how might PP be used. I think Mou will build not one, but two United teams; injuries permitting, he will rotate between these to compete in a fixture congested Prem and in multiple competitions. All designed for the Everest assault on CL 2018.
I think Carrick and Pogba would be excellent together, and playing Rooney an advantage as he can drop back a bit when needed. In a weird way the bigger issue could be Martial who will need to put in enough of a shift on the left.
Rooney doesn't belong in any best XI any more. Hell he probably wouldn't make a second best XI.
I don't think you'd get the best out of Pogba with 2 in midfield but I still think he can play there. That being said, you're spending £100m so you want to give him the best chance possible to succeed and that means playing 4-3-3. Will Jose play it, we can only guess at this moment.
If Pogba does arrive, I'd like to see.
- De Gea -
- Valencia - Smalling - Bailey - Shaw -
- Carrick -
- Herrera - Pogba -
- Mkhitaryan - Zlatan - Martial -
- Valencia - Smalling - Bailey - Shaw -
- Carrick -
- Herrera - Pogba -
- Mkhitaryan - Zlatan - Martial -
Morgan in for Herrera and that is probably the best team
Disagree with this Swansons, I think that is Pogba's best position (number 8) and it's the position he's being bought to play in. He will excel in that role alongside a Carrick or a Blind. I really don't see Pogba as a threat to Rooney at all, Rooney will be under threat from the likes of Miky & Mata.
Kroos isn't an AM and pogba might get more hype but kroos is the better player, if either was going to get the ballon d or surely it would be the better player
I feel Herrera is just better with the ball at his feet than Schneiderlin. Same principle yeah, an energetic midfielder who can get up and down. Schweinsteiger as a alternative to Carrick too if he stays (I hope he does).
I don't think it's that much between them tbh, and Pogba is three years younger.
If you watched Kroos regularly you would note that he has become very inconsistent since switching to Madrid. I think Pogba is on a similar technical level to Kroos, has a better all round game and he has physical attributes which make him superior to Kroos.
Not to mention Pogba's clear advantage when it comes to goalscoring. Kroos has managed just 3 goals in 68 games for Madrid.
Am expecting that as a world record signing, he will be played in his absolute best position, and everyone else can work around it.
You don't mess about with top signings, as the Di Maria debacle proved!
Rubbish. Rooney is still a quality player. His place is threatened now and it will be interesting to see his reaction.
He's not though, in the last few years it's astonishing how much of our play has broken down when it reaches him.
If it wasn't for his 'status' he'd not be making the squad on form. But this is way off topic and for another thread.
Wenger is like SAF 'No value in the market' of his last years. Difference is, SAF was winning stuff every year.
Difference between Jose and VG, one will play a more efficient kind of football with common sense practices, the other was so obsessed with a philosophy playing players out of position, demanding no one to take chances
Sadly, Rooney hasn't been quality for at least a couple of years.
He thinks a lot, doesn't he?
I do not agree with you. Not even making the squad? He is not being picked entirely on status.
I remember this time last year hoping Rooney had one more top class season left in him. Here I am, 12 months later hoping the same.
You know he's become a problem when you're 'hoping' for him to perform as opposed to 'expecting' him to perform.
You know he's become a problem when you're 'hoping' for him to perform as opposed to 'expecting' him to perform.
Rooney is one of the main reasons why our attack is so lethargic when he's in that number 10 role. All he does with the ball is pass it out wide. He has at most 10 good games a season and even the quality of those 10 games has reduced. Several months during the past season he couldn't even get his first touch right, let alone create anything in our attacking play.
He's toast.
Rooney hasn't been "quality" since 2012. It's not a dip in form, he's been heavily declining for 4+ years.
Yea, the squad, I wouldn't have him in it based on watching him play. Let's leave it there, we'll not agree and we're way off topic.