Surely a title change is in order, even if it only lasts until the usual bad news in the morning, the current one is crap.
Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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They are still too far behind, even if they bid tonight imo. We've spent ages on the "Raiola problem" and are only about to conclude it soon-ish.
Just a few days ago, Juve supposedly rejected our bid. So this is progress and for the first time Di Marzio has said a timeline for a medial.
First mention of Medicals! It's progress lads.
It's not mate. Talksport is owned by Wireless which has just been bought by News UK. If the deal goes through talksport will be part of a stable which, yes, includes the Sun but also includes the Times and the Wall Street Journal, which are at the opposite end of the scale.
I can handle two more days 
Amazing, its like they sat there waiting for any positive news for United fans to counter it with this. Great click baiting to be honest, the article will get high views at this moment.
When this saga is over can someone post a timeline of events. Should be quite amusing.
Come on, Perez. Dust off that fax machine.
The rest? I thought this was the Pogba forum. The Leading official Paul Pogba Red Cafe Raiola forum.I was just thinking - for all we know, we could have officially confirmed the signing of Matuidi today (or any other player for that matter) - is anyone actually checking the rest of the forum!?
we will comfortably make 40k at this rate. I may end up with 1500 post alone
@VanGaalEra will be at 2k by then
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Do they actually have their own sources as most of the stories i see other than opinion pieces are other news outlets like AS.
Fantastic news to come home to. Di Marzio and Romano are great journos and just shows how shite ESPN, De Brun and Palmeri are.
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I read they the were linking the news with The Sun which was why colin Murray resigned.
C'mon guys, let's break 1000 pages in two days! We can do it!
*Turns off lights*..*Brings out paper towels*..
You guys talk like this Di Marzio is the Walter Cronkite of football journalism or something.
1) Based on so may quotes - there is the "Raiola (and maybe Pogba) has 20% of Pogba sell fee" from when he first went to Juve - so if they sell him for 100m then he gets 20m, if they sell him for 30m then he gets 6m ... 20% of whatever he sells for. So Juve would not be getting the full amount of whatever United pay Juve for Pogba.
2) Raiola is the agent brokering the deal between United and Juve and in these cases the agents have a certain fee they get from brokering the deal. So is that also supposed to be 20% and where it gets muddy is which club is responsible for paying that brokering fee. If it wasn't Raiola brokering the deal - then whoever it was would still get the fee.
The fact that Raiola is basically getting to double-dip into the deal seems to be the cause of all these negotiations/complexity between the 3 parties especially considering the overall deal amount. If this was a smaller transfer, then probably won't be that drawn out. Just imagine if Juve wants to get to keep 100m - then that means we need to pay them 125m. Then say agent fees are even 15% of the actual deal - that means that's another 18.75m to Railoa someon has to pay but, Juve don't want to pay it and we don't want to pay the full amount. Raiola himself stands to get 43.75m - so he is not likely to want to forgo it. Juve have probably been trying to drop some of that 20% because he is going to get such a large chunk from the overall agent fees - United are already paying 100m and don't want to get stuck paying the whole agent fees on their own or then Juve should drop their overall asking price so then United can cover the agent fees.
So each side probably trying to get concessions and it seems like each side wants the deal to happen - so they are all working to get the best possible and from the sounds of it, most of it has been sorted and now just have to get that final negotiation out of the way. Hopefully that happens soon so we can go into the season with what should be a key player for us.
2) Raiola is the agent brokering the deal between United and Juve and in these cases the agents have a certain fee they get from brokering the deal. So is that also supposed to be 20% and where it gets muddy is which club is responsible for paying that brokering fee. If it wasn't Raiola brokering the deal - then whoever it was would still get the fee.
The fact that Raiola is basically getting to double-dip into the deal seems to be the cause of all these negotiations/complexity between the 3 parties especially considering the overall deal amount. If this was a smaller transfer, then probably won't be that drawn out. Just imagine if Juve wants to get to keep 100m - then that means we need to pay them 125m. Then say agent fees are even 15% of the actual deal - that means that's another 18.75m to Railoa someon has to pay but, Juve don't want to pay it and we don't want to pay the full amount. Raiola himself stands to get 43.75m - so he is not likely to want to forgo it. Juve have probably been trying to drop some of that 20% because he is going to get such a large chunk from the overall agent fees - United are already paying 100m and don't want to get stuck paying the whole agent fees on their own or then Juve should drop their overall asking price so then United can cover the agent fees.
So each side probably trying to get concessions and it seems like each side wants the deal to happen - so they are all working to get the best possible and from the sounds of it, most of it has been sorted and now just have to get that final negotiation out of the way. Hopefully that happens soon so we can go into the season with what should be a key player for us.
47 hours and 6 minutes to go!
We'll see. I'm cautiously optimistic anyway.
But just because we've spent ages on the Raiola thing doesn't mean another team will. And things could stall in theory if the player thinks another option is coming.
As I said anyway, I'm optimistic, but cautiously so.
Somebody questionned him earlier in this thread (on twitter).
It didn't go well.
Basically he is almost always right.
Jose. Zlatan, Mhikky. He called these transfers a long time before they were officially revealed.
The 'Madrid make initial contact' reports emerging tonight is all coming from an ESPN article written by Miguel Delaney, who is a confirmed spoofer. He analyses the rumour mill and writes an article off the back of it and then shamelessly cites 'ESPN sources'. He's been doing it for years. He's like a stereotypical Sun journalist but just more articulate and usually more clever in what stories he decides to make up.
What has he gotten wrong though?
Fwiw, De Brun has taken a lot of unfair stick in the wake of this recent update. He's maintained that he still thinks the deal would go through, and has largely given his personal opinion on bits and pieces. He's expressed fear that the length of time taken may allow Real back in, and it isn't exactly a secret that Zidane wants the player.
I don't understand what Delaney is trying to say here.
ESPN are putting up the story he wrote 24 hours ago (and is therefore behind?) Or that someone copied him?
No you didnt.
I dont believe every thing he says, but he is one of very few journos least likely to make shit up. He just gets whatever his inside sources feed him, and those could be juve officials (madrid interest, agent fees, juve hardball negotating, etc).
To be fair, i was reading that Juve forum last week and they were saying that the reason why Di Marzio is so good with his info is because he openly pays sources for the information. Thats why many people believe what he says in Italy.
we will comfortably make 40k at this rate. I may end up with 1500 post alone
@VanGaalEra will be at 2k by then
As I mentioned before, this thread won't ever be broken. This will probably end up around 33-35K.
Too many cocks to dodge.
Juve was gouing for Gomez, minutes before he signed for Barca
Said the same thing, is he trying to say becasue it's from 24 hrs ago it doesn't matter anymore, or he's miffed like you say because it didn't get printed before everyone else came out with the same story.
His track record is very poor either way though.
For the ones saying this hasn't moved forward. In his article Di Marzio is saying that we're paying Juve a bit over 110m euros BUT we have agreed to be responsible for the 20%. So in total we will be paying Juve around €110m and €22m to Raiola
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calciom...rso-lo-united-48-ore-per-chiudere-i-dettagli/
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calciom...rso-lo-united-48-ore-per-chiudere-i-dettagli/
The Godfather Di Marzio has spoken. Looks like Friday is the day!
Wasn't he off to Real at 22:30, then went to Barca at 23:00? Something dodgy like that.
"just when I thought I was out....they pull me back in!"
That's literally the way this whole saga has been from both sidesI think you might have had the wrong tab open...