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Ok. If you say so.
I did answer the question. Bale was head and shoulders the best player in the PL when he was sold. In terms of what he achieved its unfair to dismiss his achievements as an individual in England just because the team he played in didn't challenge. Pogba by contrast is playing in a Juve side that are probably the best back five in the world with. Juve have have achieved domestic success not Pogba on his own. There is no comparison in talent level between Bale and Pogba. Bale is streets ahead. You only have to look at their individual performances to see that. Spending 120m on Bale would make sense. It makes no sense on Paul Pogba.
The whole theme of this thread has been "Anyone who says anything about Pogba to United" rejoice like there's no tomorrow and keep updating the thread title. Now news coming out about Real entering the race, then suddenly start questioning the media. I will be glad once the nonsense is over and he signs for Real because he is absolutely not needed and as Jose says we have alternatives who might turn out to be better that this fecking prima donna who hasn't acheived anything meaningful along with a dufus of an agent who is only there to grab money for himself.
We should be staying away from such idiotic deals rather than entering a show boating contest to show how much money you can splurge.
We should be staying away from such idiotic deals rather than entering a show boating contest to show how much money you can splurge.
Would be hilarious if this went on until deadline day.
At least 1200 pages.
At least 1200 pages.
Doesn't that come under press reports / speculation?
Think some here are really insane...there is no downside if Madrid comes in picture and offer the same and Pogba chooses them over us. We would use that money and spend it somewhere else,in same time we wouldnt have a player,who sees us as not number one option.Being scared of Real Madrid a circus of a club...what a bunch of wussies.
What, no money back guarantee?
It would be poetic justice if while Juve, Pogba and the agent dick about for weeks being greedy, that his form dives, we buy players who turn out to be far better for far less money and he ends up going to Real at the end of his contract on a free, but then play only five games in the space of two years due to being so shit, then ends up at Galatasary or somewhere
Being scared of Real Madrid a circus of a club...what a bunch of wussies.
You can think what you want but the fact is that players always want to play with the best players. You talk of someone else but name no one and I can't think of anyone with similar potential. How people look at the club is very important. Just like how we view the club and so in time we don't become a selling club because theres' better 'value' out there.
We can sign Pogba and still do business. The problem isn't just the money we spend but the fact we are useless at shifting players...That's partly because 9/10 they don't want to go. IF we want to keep our talents, then we have to be seen to be able to compete so it's psychological as much as anything.
Your route and we're more likely to lose players and be talking of value in the market - while other clubs price us out. Madrid did a crazy thing under Perez and many will say it flopped...but you know? I suspect it worked. That is why despite you calling them a circus, they have a pull because players know they won't just talk about doing something...
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And that would be just on deadline day
They actually have been vindicated as Bale has won 2 champions league with Madrid and helped them win it. Pogba on the other hand has won the piss poor seria a with a depleted Inter & AC Milan teams and failed to win the Champions league even once.
If he wants to move then he'll want to perform to very high standards at United to achieve his goal. We'll make a profit. More Paella for Riola.
What's to lose?
I'm 100% convinced he's moving this summer. Higuain's deal plus the need to refresh virtually the whole Juventus squad over the next couple of years sees to that. They need the money and he has to see they're facing the downward slope.
As to where he goes, there's far too much smoke for there not to be some truth that's he's at least VERY close to joining us. I wont believe it until i see him in the shirt, and theres no chance anyone will officially confirm it until we can put him in the shirt and milk the press attention, which wont happen until he's back from holiday.
As to where he goes, there's far too much smoke for there not to be some truth that's he's at least VERY close to joining us. I wont believe it until i see him in the shirt, and theres no chance anyone will officially confirm it until we can put him in the shirt and milk the press attention, which wont happen until he's back from holiday.
No guarantee that Pogba is going to improve United and win the champions league. We need to qualify first. Plus it's something that's very difficult to win. Plus we can get other players who can get us to win the exact same trophy without looking like we are getting mugged.
People laughing at Juvetus for spending so much on Higuain need to look at the mirror. We will be bigger idiots if we spend the money on an overhyphed and over rated midfielder.
Ffs, 99% of players would chose Madrid over us.
Anagrams of Pogba to United? See red:
Onto big update:
A budget option, or perhaps an aged tub option is a tabooed pig nut. Bat outdone pig and gob up antidote, because the ego button paid and Madrid adopt being out bid by the toad pigeon tub. An age doubt point to Pogba and a badge outpoint.
Now, if we read between the lines it clearly states that we will announce this deal tomorrow.
Add all the letters in tomorrow (each letter as placed in the alphabet). The total is 137.
Now add the universal prediction constant of the letter O (15) and you get 28/7.
28 July.
It's ON!
In essence I agree, it starts a bad domino effect, say we pay that much for one player, what does that say with other big players we sign they will want the price we payed for pogba. I feel these crazy transfer prices would motivate clubs to work harder on their academy, bring players from within, seems like a pipe dream, but why not? it is possible. Or? the clubs work harder by scouting the best players, much like finding hiding treasures on anything, it can happen with players if your scouts are good enough.
I give up
Ya the same way Madrid have paid upwards of 80 Million for all their transfers since Ronaldo, right?
Ronaldo
Benzema
Ozil
Varane
Kroos
Bale
Modric? We were often linked, don't know if we ever made a serious enquiry.
Ehm...you cant sign someone if he chooses to sign for someone else and what on fecking earth you mean under "your route"?! I didnt say: Hey guys here is an idea,we should pull out of Pogba deal and spend that money somewhere else.
If Real start showing real intent, I reckon Woody will pay whatever. I have a feeling he has made it a personal mission getting one over them, what with him making counter random bids when they wanted DDG.
I totally get that vibe @S.A.N.F. We'd be signing a total mercenary with little to no commitment to the club.
Yes but the club is rich and will get richer and we have to see the market. More and more sugar daddy clubs. You have to make other teams worry. But what you don't do is take chances. You don't sell an established player that's happy. You don't don't bring in another body for the sake of it. Every situation has to be planned and managed. Very few players would have the potential or would be considered at such a price. Though that may change.
I do agree.
But you need to remember that fans of MUFC, dislike other big clubs like Madrid or LFC and also MCFC (due to them being local rivals).
So, when referring to these clubs in particular, a lot of our fans will be irrational, fearful and hateful.
For those that were asking earlier, the La Stampa article was in euros, obviously. If Nerrozi is right, I think all sides have found a compromise. Juve get 100m euros straight. Raiola gets his fee, at a reduced price, MUFC pays the fee and Juve has no liability to pay him anything.
Thats how i'm reading this.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/la-stampa...raiola-meeting-payment-structure-last-hurdle/
This is ridiculous. Who the feck is trolling your brains folks?
Look at it from United and Raiola's perspective.
We have a deal with the player and his agent. This could be Raiola's third client who signs for us, he will probably receive a huge bonus if he manage to secure all three players coming to us. Why would he jeopardize this by playing us and secretly hold talks behind our back with Real Madrid? Doesn't make sense. Secondly. He stil have his other two clients Zlatan and Mhkitaryan playing for us. Talk about conflict of interest. Even if he's greedy he's not stupid.
Paul Pogba will probably get one of the best deals in the world. A salary that not even Real can match. His agreement with United is done long time ago. You don't just brake such a agreement in the last minutes. It doesn't work like that. It's not only the fee that Madrid have to negotiate, it's salary and agent fee. Simple, isn't it.
At this stage it's only a miracle who can stop us from getting Pogba. Whatever you think or read, Juventus needs to sell, all other options is bullshit. Read about cash flow if you're nervous. United will never let this slip away, no way. It's prestige, goodwill and reputation. It would be crazy to back off at this time.
And finally. Paul Pogba. Don't you think he would start to make noises if he wanted to go to Real Madrid. The deal is just hours away and the boy is calm as a cucumber. So am I.
Look at it from United and Raiola's perspective.
We have a deal with the player and his agent. This could be Raiola's third client who signs for us, he will probably receive a huge bonus if he manage to secure all three players coming to us. Why would he jeopardize this by playing us and secretly hold talks behind our back with Real Madrid? Doesn't make sense. Secondly. He stil have his other two clients Zlatan and Mhkitaryan playing for us. Talk about conflict of interest. Even if he's greedy he's not stupid.
Paul Pogba will probably get one of the best deals in the world. A salary that not even Real can match. His agreement with United is done long time ago. You don't just brake such a agreement in the last minutes. It doesn't work like that. It's not only the fee that Madrid have to negotiate, it's salary and agent fee. Simple, isn't it.
At this stage it's only a miracle who can stop us from getting Pogba. Whatever you think or read, Juventus needs to sell, all other options is bullshit. Read about cash flow if you're nervous. United will never let this slip away, no way. It's prestige, goodwill and reputation. It would be crazy to back off at this time.
And finally. Paul Pogba. Don't you think he would start to make noises if he wanted to go to Real Madrid. The deal is just hours away and the boy is calm as a cucumber. So am I.
If we keep getting in to such deals, it obviously means that our scouting is currently at it's lowest. It might happen, that there is a positive outcome where clubs start to invest in the academy and more players come in through the ranks but such deals will also continue for quick fix outcomes and United as it is keep paying over the odds. If the Pogba deal is succesful, every team in the world will keep over charging United knowing that eventually we will bend over.
We currently have a good team capable of mounting a good challenge this season. With a good manager. Let's see how that goes before investing so much money.
Old news.
Are we getting him or not?
This is exactly why I don't understand why everyone is fear-mongering. Madrid aren't going to sign Pogba unless they sell one of Kroos or Modric, both of whom could improve us extremely. Just because he said he likes Pogba in a presser don't mean nowt.
La Stampa are based in Turin, am I right? Also hearing the article was written by their most reliable journalist. It's done.
(still Mr doom and gloom here)
I'm convinced Madrid feigned not being interested in him to the media earlier to make it look like United had this one in the bag only to be negotiating with him the entire time regardless. Zidane's little "talks" make him look good to their fans and Perez gets the view from fans as "wow he finally listened to the manager on a player and put it all on the line!". I think he's going to them, Madrid wanted to get us back for De Gea.
I dunno why I'm so negative about this but it just makes too much sense to me
I'm convinced Madrid feigned not being interested in him to the media earlier to make it look like United had this one in the bag only to be negotiating with him the entire time regardless. Zidane's little "talks" make him look good to their fans and Perez gets the view from fans as "wow he finally listened to the manager on a player and put it all on the line!". I think he's going to them, Madrid wanted to get us back for De Gea.
I dunno why I'm so negative about this but it just makes too much sense to me
It would probably be too late at that stage. But then Real aren't going to make a serious move, especially whilst Beppe wants north of €100m.
So you are just speculating? Gee the world needed your speculation...
If it had come from @ ManUtd I'd probably agree but the 'Stuff' on the end means it could be yet more b0110cks!