Prodigal7
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I feel roughly the same, the seams of that team were tearing apart, and I couldn't (and still don't) understand or agree with folks that thought everything was fine the state of United at that time. Although to be both fair and honest, by the time Pogba did get his "chances" under Ferguson in the first team I didn't think he was that impressive. Maybe, it was too late by then. Pogba's rep, for me, had been built up by United supporters who'd had the luxury of watching him outside the first team. It wasn't until he got to Juve and I saw him that I thought, "Christ, what have we done?"Fergie for me I felt peaked in squad building in 2008, and much like a squad peaking and coming to an end of a cycle, fergie never kept on top of things when players like hargreaves, nani and anderson, fletcher, were not really reliable enough. Positions in midfield clearly not good enough, look at fergie's reaction to barcelona beating us in 2011, anderson and cleverley in midfield, while exciting for a few games, still not good enough. Fergie had pogba in the wings, why couldn't fergie use pogba has a transnational player? like he done with past young players like scholes, fletcher, beckham, ronaldo, neville bro's. Look at how much faith fergie had in darren fletcher, why wasn't that drive to see Pogba get the experience? Fergie has done this, and hell it was a bigger gamble bringing the likes of fletcher in the team, when fergie was up against a much bigger monster in the mourinho's chelsea 05, than city , and lets not forget in 2005 we had only scholes has our only CM left after keane was sold, fergie had no problem having the faith in darren fletcher when he was struggling
Were we ever really after any of this clients this window?
Just got a word from ensahul, he cant get online. Apparently twitter account called datguy1989 claims Perez and Raiola conducted a deal in Madrid and had the best white wine to celebrate. Woody heard about it in the plane to Miami and was very unhappy.
Make of it what you will.
I love posters who moan how boring is this thread. I mean you dont have to read it if you dont want to.
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I wish he'd lose his Credibility.Palmeri's claims are perfect for him, because if Madrid don't sign Pogba then he can just say "well they DID try everything, but it was too late" and he wasn't technically wrong. It's classic ITK clickbait tactics. Clown
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Kroos tooI like how us wanting Pogba is cock blocking City from getting Bonucci.
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Spot on brother, reverence for legends, if you diss em you don't know what being a red is.Disrespect for a United legend. Stay classy whoever the fcuk you are
Nerd police
Isn't it funny how them tweets on Palmeri's timeline are posted an hour or so before he goes live on TalkSPORT.Quick fix
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Definitely.Isn't it funny how them tweets on Palmeri's timeline are posted an hour or so before he goes live on TalkSPORT.
I'm sure it's so the presenters can say something along the lines of "Our italian football expert has some big updates on the future of Paul Pogba" or some shit like that.
Dogs yawn when they are nervous. These are simply muppets who can't emotionally hack it anymore but are at the same time too terrified for the world to go on without them so they choose to stand guard in this thread and let their frail emotional feelings known whenever the thread grows without the news they hunger for.I love posters who moan how boring is this thread. I mean you dont have to read it if you dont want to.
I guess i was looking at it the other way around where they wanted Kroos and would only get him IF Real were able to get Pogba. But you are probably rightIf City wanted Kroos then Madrid would just sign Pogba as replacement. It makes it easier for them to sign him especially with the money that will come in from City.
Well, what can I say? Each one of us has his opinion.
I believe that Mou is being brave bringing in Pogba for a record buy. This deal puts SAF in a very bad light and many pundits and ex players who idolise the man won't like that. There again I feel that Mou threw the gauntlet the day he allowed Giggs to go rather then offering him an assistant manager's role.
Any chance people could post translations with the tweets please?!
It would be faster to just run it through Google translate rather than asking about it :P
Yeah but it's more for those who just post any tweet that says "Pogba" or "United" in it. If they don't know what it says then don't post it
I'm also incredibly lazy.
So I haven't been following this very closely. Has anything happened yet?
"Madrid is trying everything to hijack the deal of United ,Zidane with Pogba,deal/meetings with Juve,everything..."Any chance people could post translations with the tweets please?!
So I haven't been following this very closely. Has anything happened yet?
How the feck do you actually know this? Stop buying into the media bullshit unless the player himself comes out and says something.
Ta"Madrid is trying everything to hijack the deal of United ,Zidane with Pogba,deal/meetings with Juve,everything..."
United have made bids.So I haven't been following this very closely. Has anything happened yet?
So to guess a reliable transfer-price range on Pogba, I've counted Juventus' money and looked at how much above an average budget they are this year:
Confirmed: (Source: Transfermarkt.de)
Miralem Pjanic
32,00 Mill. €
Marko Pjaca
23,00 Mill. €
Mario Lemina
9,50 Mill. €
Possible transfers:
Gonzalo Higuain
Release clause: 94 Mill. €
Gabigol (40% of his rights)
18,0 Mill. € - Total sum might be more to gain the remaining 10,1%
Total sum: -176,5 m Euros.
So how much does Juve spend in average pr season?
2015/2016: (Earnings minus expenditure in transfers - Source transfermarkt.de)
- 56 mill Euros
2014/2015
- 17 mill Euros
2013/2014
+ 12 mill Euros
2012/2014
- 50 mill Euros
On average that is:
- 27 mill euros pr season.
Which means that with the total sum so far, including Higuain / Gabigol has spent:
149,5 mill euro ABOVE what the average spending season for Juventus has been over the last 4 seasons
To be fair to Juventus, they have barely had any need to spend.So to guess a reliable transfer-price range on Pogba, I've counted Juventus' money and looked at how much above an average budget they are this year:
Confirmed: (Source: Transfermarkt.de)
Miralem Pjanic
32,00 Mill. €
Marko Pjaca
23,00 Mill. €
Mario Lemina
9,50 Mill. €
Possible transfers:
Gonzalo Higuain
Release clause: 94 Mill. €
Gabigol (40% of his rights)
18,0 Mill. € - Total sum might be more to gain the remaining 10,1%
Total sum: -176,5 m Euros.
So how much does Juve spend in average pr season?
2015/2016: (Earnings minus expenditure in transfers - Source transfermarkt.de)
- 56 mill Euros
2014/2015
- 17 mill Euros
2013/2014
+ 12 mill Euros
2012/2014
- 50 mill Euros
On average that is:
- 27 mill euros pr season.
Which means that with the total sum so far, including Higuain / Gabigol has spent:
149,5 mill euro ABOVE what the average spending season for Juventus has been over the last 4 seasons