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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Shows how much you shouldn't pay too much mind to odds too.

Our odds have drifted, Real's odds have drifted massively and the odds on him staying at Juve are shortening now. The fluctuation is nuts.

I do think it's not necessarily done, but it probably is and I'm pretty relaxed about it, even if it was to end up not coming off.
 
bonsaiboy said:
4. The deal is done and Raiola and Pogba will fly out of Miami to the UK together for the medical and signing.

Okay, it's probably pie-in-the-sky but at this point, anything goes.
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It's not the wackiest idea on here. United delegates could also be flying out and could complete the medical, signing and photos out there.
 
the unknown one. said:
I have noticed a lot of people have Pogba in a two man midfield in their ideal formation.

From what I have seen of him he requires a three man midfield to play at his best.

Can he really play his best in a two man midfield?

We should not be spending the rumored fee if we are going to mis-use him ala France in the Euro final.

With Jose's recent Rooney comments this is really worrying me.
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Rooney will most likely be dropped eventually. Jose will play him until he realises he's shite. There were reports floating around I remember reading saying Rooney has been informed he is no longer undroppable.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Full translation of the El Confidencial article. It's absolute gold. Spanish version here by the way.

Apart from official confirmation, it seems a fact that Paul Pogba will be a Manchester United player for a sum in excess of 100 million euros. Another great deal for Juventus who have managed to get maximum value from the auction in which the French midfielder finds himself involved.

The excessive interest of Mourinho combined with the subtle intentions of Zidane have placed it (the auction) on a level with Neymar - that is if we ever find out his true, definitive cost - and above Ronaldo or Bale, who approach the 100 million mark, or Luis Suarez or Zidane himself.

However, the excellent relations between the player's sporting adviser (presume they mean Raiola) and Manchester United have been reinforced this summer. Pogba will be the third football from the same 'stable' to end up at Old Trafford, after Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan. The determination of 'Mou' to snatch the Frenchman from Real Madrid is decisive in an operation that 'Zizou' looks at with pity and of which Pogba himself harbours suspicion, after the personal anguish he suffered just four years ago.

Pogba kept alive the dream despite the fact that the European Championships recently held in France didn't turn out to be satisfactory for him. However, his image, as one of the top young players on the continent, has not been dented. This eccentric 23-year-old footballer, whose ancestry is of the ancient French Guinea, has fought beyond words to play for Real Madrid.

It has been strange to see the indifference with which his desire to wear the white shirt has been received. The lack of work done by Florentino Perez is at odds with his actions from the past, despite listening to the coach's view on who is a player who can grow to maturity in the passage of time.

And Pogba has delayed giving an affirmative answer to United as long as possible. He remembers vividly how he left Old Trafford distraught, especially the treatment he received from Sir Alex Ferguson. The fact that the Scot is no longer involved day-to-day at United is the trick Mourinho has pulled to convince him. However, his memory of that time doesn't lead him to presume he will have a comfortable time in Manchester.

In October 2009 Pogba landed in northeast England, just 16 years old, coming from Le Havre. At such a young age, he was one of the most promising young players pursued to the fullest by Ferguson's talent-hunters. A powerful central midfielder with enormous physical power, he stood out for covering every blade of glass and for getting out of tricky situations in both penalty areas.

But the dreams of this Guinean pearl were dispelled little by little. Sir Alex took two years to give him his first-team debut - in a league cup tie - and six months later he entered the Premier League as a substitute for Chicharito in a game against Stoke City. The lack of opportunities and seeing himself relegated to the bench led to the obvious conclusion that he occupied a wrong position.

The Scottish manager didn't know how to manage Pogba's development and the relationship ended up worse than anyone could have imagined. The arrogant Ferguson found himself pitted against the rebelliousness of youth and in the last few months life turned into a minor hell for Paul.

Season 2011/12 finished with Pogba a symbolic presence in the lineup: seven times in seven games, including a fleeting appearance in San Mames against Atheltic. He is still marked by the day that he gave up and decided to leave Old Trafford: 31 December 2011, a match against Blackburn Rovers. Before this episode, he had asked the boss for a meeting to request an explanation. He left the office crying for the lack of opportunities, after challenging the coach: "if you don't put me in, I can't show you if I'm ready or not."

Ferguson punished the Frenchman's boldness by placing Rafael, a right-back, in the midfield. That afternoon Pogba understood that all was lost in Manchester.

The thread of the relationship became ever more tense and in the last few weeks he found himself alone in the gym, on the margin of the group. The boy had refused to extend his contract and Ferguson counterattacked with arrogance and rage. Besides, someone had informed him that the player had committed himself a few months earlier to Juventus.

The challenge of returning through the great door to Old Trafford, now without the great devil who so embittered him, did not satisfy the Frenchman, especially because of the influence that Zidane has over him. Paul is not completely free of bitterness, even if he has realised that he won't find a hole to fill at Real Madrid. Many have been the conversations between him and his compatrior, the Madrid coach. En those conversation, 'Zizou' has been prudent in requesting patience to his correspondent. The coach was conscious of the fact that only a great champion of France '16 would arrive at the Bernabeu. But the Euros gave what the gave and Pogba was left in a half-way house.

For Zidane, the midfielder has plenty of room for improvement, to build on his physical power, his tactical nous and his amazing work in both boxes. This is what he has told Florentino. He has even admitted publicly his conditions and recognised that he likes the player.

But the energy of the boss slammed on the breaks after what happened during the French tournament. The president doesn't trust the footballer and his entourage, as well as his agent. He seems him just like Benzema: guys who need too many cuddles and are uncontrollable away from the pitch. In addition, he doesn't fancy selling James or Isco.

The final call from Pogba to Zidane was a desperate attempt to plea. But Zizou can't do anything more.

That little hell doesn't seem likely to repeat itself. Mourinho replaces Ferguon in the 'theatre of dreams'. But Paul doesn't stop fearing his own personal nightmare.
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Ugh, the Spanish press really piss me off. They exist purely to perpetuate their clubs' propaganda. It seems to be the opposite in England where it feels like they desperately try to tear their clubs down and tear United down in particular.
 
All the negative nancies in here make me laugh so much. If we sign him then fantastic, if we don't it's a shame but not the end of the world.

I can't believe the fear people have of Madrid, it's like the ghost that hides under their beds :lol: get a grip ffs
 
Adam-Utd said:
All the negative nancies in here make me laugh so much. If we sign him then fantastic, if we don't it's a shame but not the end of the world.

I can't believe the fear people have of Madrid, it's like the ghost that hides under their beds :lol: get a grip ffs
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I think it's a bit too late for that. The world will end if he isn't at Manchester. It's writing i the scriptures.
 
FCBarca said:
Never in that camp. I don't have a bone to pick in this transfer, as a neutral I am curious for the player's development & fit. He's an excellent talent who could become phenomenal but mostly its on the player. From a sporting perspective, I think he has better options than United (Staying at Juve really). From a business perspective, United ticks most of the right boxes. Mou being the coach, makes it less palatable since I've never seen him make a midfielder better but in theory perhaps he could get Pogba to take a step up in terms of his mentality
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Eh off the top of my head Lampard and Sneijder come to mind.
 
Tiber said:
:lol::lol: cant be true. Id genuinely rather sign Clevlerley or Gibson
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BUT BUT BUT he had a good Euros!

Perez clearly signs player's who have a good tournament, I doubt he actually watches football apart from that.
 
CamuNoir said:
We fecked up signing lucas moura and hazard because we didn't want to pay large sum of agent fee.
Hope it doesn't repeat again.
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It wasn't just agents fees. Chelsea and PSG offered them about £160-180k per week which we couldn't/wouldn't match for players so young.

Had it just been the agents fees we would have signed one of them i'm sure.
 
So RM want Sissoko after Gomes snubbed them for Barca, while we close in on Paul fecking Pogba?

I'm enjoying this role reversal. I'm enjoying it very much.
 
Womp said:
There were reports floating around I remember reading saying Rooney has been informed he is no longer undroppable.
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No player should ever be undroppable.
If they are playing badly, a good manager should have the mental capacity to bench that player with a better performing player. It seems easy, but LVG just could not get his head around this.
Even Hodgson started to give Rooney less preference in the England games. And that was Hodgson!
 


Madrid once again acting like they never wanted him just it doesn't look like they were snubbed. Most insecure club on the planet.
 
pocco said:
Could it just be the case that Raiola has flown to Miami to get Pogba to sign all the documents that have been drawn up? Instead of Pogba having to cut short his holiday.
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That is most likely the case but somehow, people think he has flown out to tell Pogba that Real are interested.

People have lost heir minds.
 
pocco said:
Could it just be the case that Raiola has flown to Miami to get Pogba to sign all the documents that have been drawn up? Instead of Pogba having to cut short his holiday.
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I think the whole Miami think is complete BS, if it is genuine I honestly can't see how it can be positive. If you were signing a player £100mil I would expect him to travel to Manchester.

The only option (mentioned above) is that he will travel with Pogba to Manchester, though why he would need to do that I don't know.

The whole thing is crap, IF Di Marzio knew this info, surely he would put down in more detail WHY he need to travel.

The guy is a fraud.
 
People, can't you create a Real Madrid thread if you really are so obsessed with them? Nothing, besides a few non-reputable Twitter itks, is indicating that they're even interested in Pogba at this point. Therefore discussing their ability in the transfer and the stature of their club isn't very relevant in this thread.
 
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