Well be as stringent as you want. I trust the manager and the people in charge, they are more competent about this stuff than both you and me (despite what you claim). I think most either are looking forward to this signing while others are worried to get stick by their mates for the fee, because just getting annoyed by a large number seems quite unlikely to me, or at least it's very weird.
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Well be as stringent as you want. I trust the manager and the people in charge, they are more competent about this stuff than both you and me (despite what you claim). I think most either are looking forward to this signing while others are worried to get stick by their mates for the fee, because just getting annoyed by a large number seems quite unlikely to me, or at least it's very weird.
Yeah i guess it was the season before last, when he was on loan at Vallecano.
There'd still be an "if" if you bought Messi. The fact is Mourinho has identified Pogba as the player he needs to challenge for the title.
He was playing in midfield too. We know that Saul can play in central defense, he did it against Barcelona after 2 red cards but he never starts there.
I would say that is more to do with the manager than the board however the Glazers and Woodward do have a great track record of making a shed load of money year after year this wouldn't happen if it wasn't financially viable
He's a poster on the RI subscription forum. He posts these as a joke to wind people up. As a well known poster on that forum he cant post any of the information they get as its understandably for paying members only, however, there was one thing he put up recently that was supposed to be a wind up but was (unbeknownst to him) actually true. No doubt when the pogba story ends he'll point to that to say 'told you so)
Got a feeling we'll all get a answer soon either way.
I like Saul, but I think Pogba is better. For me the price is irrevelant, we have cash to spend so why not go for the best?
Saul seems just as happy in Spain and at Atletico, so it wouldn't be any easier to sign him IMO. We know Pogba will be happy in Manchester, he lived here for 3/4 years. He is Adidas' poster boy and will become our main household name once Rooney moves along.
Saul seems just as happy in Spain and at Atletico, so it wouldn't be any easier to sign him IMO. We know Pogba will be happy in Manchester, he lived here for 3/4 years. He is Adidas' poster boy and will become our main household name once Rooney moves along.
Because "time".
Oh really? Had no idea about any of that. Thanks.
Thanks, guess i was mistaken then. He looks like a fantastic player, but i'd take Pogba ahead of him, even at the quoted price. I guess we will see in time if the investment was well placed or not.
How was it unbeknown to him if he posts on RI?
I want Pogba the player because I like him but I would have spent the 100m on Sané and Krychowiak, obviously now it's too late. I know that for the caf 4 very attacking players isn't enough but I disagree.
Cant remember exactly but he posted something then a few hours later it emerged it might actually be true. Cant remember what it was.
I think he does actually have some contacts in utd but its not really transfer related. His twitter account is purely a wind up
That's like saying that United are a selling club cause we sold Ronaldo, Beckham, RVN, and Veron over the years. Every situation has a unique reason for happening.
Yeah I used to be on RI and found it so odd.
He'd go on every day and moan about people obsessed with transfers. Yet he's a 40 year old man with kids who spends his days making crap up on twitter.
I know which I find sadder.
I'm not blaming anyone though. Transfers can go wrong, and these did go wrong, rightly or wrongly. Woody & co. need to value the risk of spending double that on one player whilst noting how big transfers can fail seemingly easily in their back garden.
This would suggest we shouldn't question transfers or fees made by any club, when really we are free to hold our own opinions. If I think Saul for 70m + Matuidi for 25m is better than 100m+ on Pogba, there is decent reasoning behind it and its fair to discuss on a forum.
A lot less silly than most of the speculation in here. Although I'm fairly sure someone earlier on said there was a way to hedge against currency fluctuations in big money deals like this. Some finance-y type of bloke. @Jippy, maybe?
I can promise you they've analysed the financial risks involved in a £100m transfer in far greater detail than anyone on this forum.
I don't think anything new would come out of Italy until it's 9 PM over there, that's when they generally break the new stories. English tabloids & journos would take a lot of mileage out of last night's stories till that time.
Again, it's all relative. If we wanted to buy a player who currently scores 50 goals per season and was easily available, we'd probably bid even more than we're rumoured to be doing for Pogba. Why? Because we can, and the money men have done their maths.
It doesn't really matter that we'd be paying more than any other club would for the same player. If we are earning several orders of magnitude more money than those clubs are, it still makes financial sense, according to the money men.
And if the transfer goes wrong, we'll just get someone else the following window. And again. And again. Until it goes right.
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree it's ludicrous to the likes of you and me to wrap our heads around these figures, especially when we might see budget successes like Kante (when he went to Leicester), Mahrez and Payet. But United can simply afford this easily wthout any long term consequence.
If you buy some bog roll for 50p, and I buy the same bog roll for £2, it's silly. But if I'm earning 20 x as much as you are, I won't really care that I've paid 4 x as much as you for the same thing. I won't even care if you're laughing at me for spending that much, because one glance at my bank account and I'll feel better.
The only relevant question for us (the fans) is whether or not the player is good enough. It's not our money, why on earth would we care about the fee. It's a complete nonsense.
Maybe it should be a rule for no fan to question club fees then
A rule? No. The application of commonsense, yes. It does not matter.
You can question whatever you like, I don't really care. But when it comes to our finances and what we can/can't spend, and the risk involved, you don't know better than Ed Woodward and the Glazers.Maybe it should be a rule for no fan to question club fees then
So it's confirmed that Raiola is in Manchester, is it?
He wasn't played out of position a lot. That's a myth. He almost always played either as an AM or as a winger and maybe a game or 2 as a striker.
I don't think this is a consideration. Don't United have Euros in the bank, i.e separate to pounds and dollars? Thought I read that somewhere so we insulate ourselves against currency fluctuations like these.
Delaying the deal whilst we potentially wait for the pound to recover means the risk of another club swooping in and stealing him goes up. Can't see this being the case.
The subscribed bit of RI- is there anyone on there with any actual proper info or is it all Wummers?
There are many factors affecting the club that the supporters might not know of. From FFP and other regulations, to wage bills & colleague expectations when renewals come around, and so on. I'm not saying no to spending £100m. I'm just questioning whether that money can be better used elsewhere, and I think it can.
Not sure why you quoted me and discussed in the first place then.
He played in CM, LW, False 9 and RW. That's 4 positions he was consistently thrown around in, amongst 2 month lay offs in injuries and having to live from a hotel for most the season. For you to just assume its "bad attitude" is ill-informed, lets just leave it there.
Right, so its common sense not to question the risks of signing a player for over £100m off the back of an inconsistent season by his own standards
The RI Sanctuary? Yes.
Juve have now signed Pjaca, another midfielder. If anybody else needed any more convincing, here's another clue.
What all Wummers or proper info with decent sources?
I don't care enough about this to argue this out much further, but you're taking that post slightly out of context. I orginally responded to a poster saying It's extrememly difficult to prize top teams players away, I said Juventus have far more of a history of selling important players in their prime years more-so than the likes of Barca and Real. I mean Real in particular, I can't remember... ever selling one of their superstars that they've wanted to keep.
Not to make Juventus out to have the mentality of a Southampton, but they have more a history of being ready to part with top players if the price is right than some other "top" teams, I think they will sell Pogba too this summer... lets wait and see.
I also think that we need to keep in mind that we are spending the money that we got from Di Maria, in the last report United had a lot of cash because of that transfer.
I seem to recall someone saying that we have a lot of cash in Dollars. We are registered as a business in Delaware I believe.
Seems to be a lot of stuff coming out today, but it could just be a slow news day, or a load of people riding on the coattails of the existing sources.
If you think Saul is a better player than Pogba then fair enough, we should be signing him instead.
If you think Pogba is in fact the superior player but you'd rather not sign him because doing so would involve the Glazers spending more money, then I don't know what you're talking about.
If you genuinely believe that the financial viability of Manchester United Football Club would be under threat should we decide to chuck £100m at Juve for Pogba, then you're completely detached from reality.
Where has this came from? Is there a report about it? Or do I need to stop being anal reading these comments as I build up anticipation before clicking on transfer tweets to read them?