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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Jacky Quacky said:
The man is clearly connected to the club and knows what he's talking about which I can't say for many people on Twitter. His assurance on Pogba joining United is what strikes me and he calls his source exceptional which helps.
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At what basis are you guys confident that he's connected with people at the club/has good sources and that there's any truth to what he's saying? What is his history and track record in regard to transfers like? I'm just curious.
As far as I know he was wrong(and maybe even blacklisted?) during the Vidal saga, unless my memory fails me of course.
 
Jacky Quacky said:
The man is clearly connected to the club and knows what he's talking about which I can't say for many people on Twitter. His assurance on Pogba joining United is what strikes me and he calls his source exceptional which helps.
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The bit about Rooney at 07:30 is pretty diabolical.
 
Who knows what he might be in the future but I'd rather us take the gamble than not. sometimes you do things because it's a statement, it tells Real that we have the money to outbid you. It tells other players we are serious about being the best again so come and join us. Jose was a similar statement.....
 
Chip said:
At what basis are you guys confident that he's connected with people at the club/has good sources and that there's any truth to what he's saying? What is his history and track record in regard to transfers like? I'm just curious.
As far as I know he was wrong(and maybe even blacklisted?) during the Vidal saga, unless my memory fails me of course.
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I'm not sure if he did make a claim during the Vidal saga. Does anyone remember?

I mean did he make a claim that Vidal was done like here he is doing with Pogba or was he just speculating?
 
Jacky Quacky said:
I'm not sure if he did make a claim during the Vidal saga. Does anyone remember?

I mean did he make a claim that Vidal was done like here he is doing with Pogba or was he just speculating?
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Journos only report what they themselves are hearing from their sources. Sometimes the info is wrong, sometimes it's right.
 
Raoul said:
Journos only report what they themselves are hearing from their sources. Sometimes the info is wrong, sometimes it's right.
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So he was only speculating and didn't say both parties agreed a deal.

Hearing him say this is reassuring.

And this.
 
Jacky Quacky said:

So he was only speculating and didn't say both parties agreed a deal.

Hearing him say this is reassuring.

And this.
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Sure, but he does still claim that the deal is through barring any unexpected complications. So if it it doesn't happen, he might say that he never claimed that it was a done deal, and that his track record is still flawless. It's easy to be a journalist/ITK when you put it like that.

But he does seem confident and well connected by the look of those tweets. I hope he's right.
 
You realize that until lines are dotted and United announce it, anything can change, so yeah naturally reporters aren't going to stake their reputations until they know 100% sure it will happen.

Like even if his source is Woodward, Woodward can't say, "ya man it's a done dealio for sureio" until it's actually a done deal lol. And just because they don't say 100% certainty, doesn't mean that they aren't connected to people.
 
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Chip said:
Sure, but he does still claim that the deal is through barring any unexpected complications. So if it it doesn't happen, he might say that he never claimed that it was a done deal, and that his track record is still flawless. It's easy to be a journalist/ITK when you put it like that.

But he does seem confident and well connected by the look of those tweets. I hope he's right.
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That's true, fingers crossed there are no complications. We know for sure he's our 4th signing though if anyone needed to be more sure.
 
Pilib is connected insofar as he has connections with a few player agencies that have clients who are United players and agents do talk about what they're hearing. He also has a fairly popular radio station that talks about football, so he obviously has connections with that.
 
Gazza said:
:lol: how sweet that you're concerned for the guy's state of mind. I don't think you understand the mentalities of top level sportsmen, however. Sounds like no one is worried (including Pogba, evidently, if he chooses to sign for us) except you tbf
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You're kidding right?

I'm certainly not the only person worrying about the mental state of potentially our biggest investment.

Pogba will sign because it means status and more money. He loves both.
He won't give a second thought about expectations.

But if this world record deal goes through it will be unprecedented, and none of us really know what to expect.
It won't be the first time that a youngster is bought for a ridiculous fee though.
Sterling, Bebe, Carroll, the list is endless.

Sometimes a player can rise above the issue a big fee brings, sometimes not.
So, while I don't lose sleep at night, I think it's perfectly reasonable to be concerned for the insecure little flowers that football players obviously are.
 
Raoul said:
For anyone who missed De Brun's Periscope earlier today, its well worth a watch (from 2:00 onwards)


https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MnxnyBzZvmJO
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What the hell? I've never used periscope before. How do you skip to 2:00? Really rather not sit through him making leery remarks about his wife using a massive vibrator straight after giving birth.
 
Shakesey said:
You're kidding right?

I'm certainly not the only person worrying about the mental state of potentially our biggest investment.

Pogba will sign because it means status and more money. He loves both.
He won't give a second thought about expectations.

But if this world record deal goes through it will be unprecedented, and none of us really know what to expect.
It won't be the first time that a youngster is bought for a ridiculous fee though.
Sterling, Bebe, Carroll, the list is endless.

Sometimes a player can rise above the issue a big fee brings, sometimes not.
So, while I don't lose sleep at night, I think it's perfectly reasonable to be concerned for the insecure little flowers that football players obviously are.
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I get what your saying but Pogba has been winning titles where Sterling and Carroll were never going to live up to their price tag because the fee was mainly because they were English. I assume Bebe was a typo.:)
 
No need to worry about Pogba's mentality. This is a guy who defied sir Alex Ferguson to go make it at Juventus - which he did.
 
VP89 said:
But we are literally the only club that perceives him to be worth 120million. If he really was worth that much, there would be other suiters. It just so happens that both of Real and Barcelonas midfield is superior to him, whilst Chelsea /City don't perceive him to be worth such a silly amount.

For 100m, I'd expect the finished article, bearing today's market in mind. I respect your opinion though, because valuation is subjective. I think the difference is just that you see him as a cert. World Great whereas I have my doubts.
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Sure, he's not worth that amount to any other club, but with our marketing men, sponsorship deals and the 'homecoming' angle, it's obviously been decided that he's worth it to ours. And he might be. We're paying what it costs, no one else is prepared to, no other club currently out of the Champions League could pull it off if they wanted to.

IMHO his true value is no more than £70m, but hey the club has wasted far more money in recent years than the extra it's prepared to pay for him.
 
Judge Red said:
Sure, he's not worth that amount to any other club, but with our marketing men, sponsorship deals and the 'homecoming' angle, it's obviously been decided that he's worth it to ours. And he might be. We're paying what it costs, no one else is prepared to, no other club currently out of the Champions League could pull it off if they wanted to.

IMHO his true value is no more than £70m, but hey the club has wasted far more money in recent years than the extra it's prepared to pay for him.
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Absolutely agree. I'd rather "waste" about 30-40m on Pogba than spread it out on lesser players Liverpool style. We don't need to bolster the squad, we need to acquire game changers.
 
Pogba is 100x more naturally talented than Bebe Carroll etc etc.

I really do think the majority of people that "dont want him" are fans that haven't watched him since he left, or remain bitter than he left and we have to buy him back.

He's a fantastic player, skilful on the ball, works his socks off and can shoot and pass like the best of them, what more do you want?
 
Can someone please sum up what Pilib says in that Periscope about Pogba?

It says 'Replay Unavailable' for me.
 
Why do people find the idea of 'preparing a bid' so hilarious?

You guys do realise there's more to these things than "we'll give you £100m for Pogba, please use the yes/no voting options attached to this email to reply" right?

There will be several different clauses involved that increase the offer based on various scenarios, the staging of the payments to be determined and other such stuff.

This is a legal process for the potential sale of a £100m asset. Of course work goes into it.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Pogba is 100x more naturally talented than Bebe Carroll etc etc.

I really do think the majority of people that "dont want him" are fans that haven't watched him since he left, or remain bitter than he left and we have to buy him back.

He's a fantastic player, skilful on the ball, works his socks off and can shoot and pass like the best of them, what more do you want?
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This just blew my mind. Nail on head.
 
My general opinion towards football has changed massively in the last 5/10 years.

I used to be fiercely passionate about the way we ran the club and developed players, peppering the team with the occasional star to ensure success.

Now, with all the oil money, sugar daddies and Russian playthings, I feel so disconnected from the game I used to know that I couldn't really care less how we go about making the side good again.

It might place me int a category of supporter I used to despise but, feck it, I just want to enjoy watching football. If that means spunking stupid money on kids with horrendous fashion taste, just to get that X factor back, then so be it. This season will be entertaining, one way or another.
 
acrebo said:
My general opinion towards football has changed massively in the last 5/10 years.

I used to be fiercely passionate about the way we ran the club and developed players, peppering the team with the occasional star to ensure success.

Now, with all the oil money, sugar daddies and Russian playthings, I feel so disconnected from the game I used to know that I couldn't really care less how we go about making the side good again.

It might place me int a category of supporter I used to despise but, feck it, I just want to enjoy watching football. If that means spunking stupid money on kids with horrendous fashion taste, just to get that X factor back, then so be it. This season will be entertaining, one way or another.
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Exactly, I think people see the astronomical figures with football transfers and just can't feel comfortable with it. At the end of the day 100 million is huge crazy money, but it's all within the football bubble. It doesn't effect us, won't change ticket prices etc so why do we have to worry?
 
acrebo said:
My general opinion towards football has changed massively in the last 5/10 years.

I used to be fiercely passionate about the way we ran the club and developed players, peppering the team with the occasional star to ensure success.

Now, with all the oil money, sugar daddies and Russian playthings, I feel so disconnected from the game I used to know that I couldn't really care less how we go about making the side good again.

It might place me int a category of supporter I used to despise but, feck it, I just want to enjoy watching football. If that means spunking stupid money on kids with horrendous fashion taste, just to get that X factor back, then so be it. This season will be entertaining, one way or another.
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The best we can hope for is a bit of both - a few homegrown stars alongside expensive purchases.
 
acrebo said:
My general opinion towards football has changed massively in the last 5/10 years.

I used to be fiercely passionate about the way we ran the club and developed players, peppering the team with the occasional star to ensure success.

Now, with all the oil money, sugar daddies and Russian playthings, I feel so disconnected from the game I used to know that I couldn't really care less how we go about making the side good again.

It might place me int a category of supporter I used to despise but, feck it, I just want to enjoy watching football. If that means spunking stupid money on kids with horrendous fashion taste, just to get that X factor back, then so be it. This season will be entertaining, one way or another.
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Yes the new ownerships have really been game changers and i think we were a bit behind the curve on that due SAF's brilliance.
I think now we just have to find the right balance between spending big and bringing players through. We are playing catch up right now but hopefully transfers like this one if it goes through will gets us there, then we we can be more prudent with transfers. Mourinho hasn't on the past spent big on individual players in the past but there aren't many players like Pogba around either.
 
Jacky Quacky said:

So he was only speculating and didn't say both parties agreed a deal.

Hearing him say this is reassuring.

And this.
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Stuff like this always comes across as bollocks. If Woodward was giving him information and he was posting it on Twitter for the world to see then Woodward would never tell him a thing again.
 
acrebo said:
My general opinion towards football has changed massively in the last 5/10 years.

I used to be fiercely passionate about the way we ran the club and developed players, peppering the team with the occasional star to ensure success.

Now, with all the oil money, sugar daddies and Russian playthings, I feel so disconnected from the game I used to know that I couldn't really care less how we go about making the side good again.

It might place me int a category of supporter I used to despise but, feck it, I just want to enjoy watching football. If that means spunking stupid money on kids with horrendous fashion taste, just to get that X factor back, then so be it. This season will be entertaining, one way or another.
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I get where you are coming from and to an extent share your sentiments but I think that in order for the young players to really flourish we need to be putting them in a well functioning team so that they see first hand the quality expected of them and that they have real pros to learn from. At the end of the season we were lacking in real quality and mental strength so changes had to be made. Then you consider how difficult it has now become to attract genuine world class talent and how much is being demanded for less established players like Martial and Sanches you reach the conclusion that its better to have a talent like Pogba in the team than spend £100m on average players and fill out the squad with poor youth team graduates.
Pogba is already playing at a comparatively higher level than Sanches and Martial so he will add more to the team's immediate ambitions.
 
Red Bug said:
Can someone please sum up what Pilib says in that Periscope about Pogba?

It says 'Replay Unavailable' for me.
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Don't worry - I've just watched it.

Very interesting. Not sure how trustworthy Pilib is but he seems very sincere. Obviously passionate about Utd and he seems to think Pogba will be done in 7-10 days.

Exciting!
 
Rado_N said:
Apart from the guy who "backs up his credentials" by saying he meets with Woodward.
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What's that got to do with where this information is from? He's merely saying why the guy is considered generally trustworthy. He's not some bloke that works in KFC.
 
Rado_N said:
Apart from the guy who "backs up his credentials" by saying he meets with Woodward.
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I think that was just to show that he isn't a nobody. He does know people in the club, people that are definitely in the know. I guess he is a better Craig Norwood who seem to be a photographer of some sort yet is privy to stuff like medical done and all
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
By the end I'm convinced Van Gaal was winding everyone up with how often he'd play people in the wrong position. It was that bizarre.

Ashley Young up front for feck sake.
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Rado_N said:
Why do people find the idea of 'preparing a bid' so hilarious?

You guys do realise there's more to these things than "we'll give you £100m for Pogba, please use the yes/no voting options attached to this email to reply" right?

There will be several different clauses involved that increase the offer based on various scenarios, the staging of the payments to be determined and other such stuff.

This is a legal process for the potential sale of a £100m asset. Of course work goes into it.
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Wait your telling me that Woodward doesn't walk around with £100 Million in cash, stuffed inside a briefcase , ready at a moment's notice to slam onto the selling clubs negotiation table??

Woodward out!
 
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Adam-Utd said:
Pogba is 100x more naturally talented than Bebe Carroll etc etc.

I really do think the majority of people that "dont want him" are fans that haven't watched him since he left, or remain bitter than he left and we have to buy him back.

He's a fantastic player, skilful on the ball, works his socks off and can shoot and pass like the best of them, what more do you want?
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They're the ones you see screaming what a bargain N'golo Kante is.
 
Rado_N said:
Why do people find the idea of 'preparing a bid' so hilarious?

You guys do realise there's more to these things than "we'll give you £100m for Pogba, please use the yes/no voting options attached to this email to reply" right?

There will be several different clauses involved that increase the offer based on various scenarios, the staging of the payments to be determined and other such stuff.

This is a legal process for the potential sale of a £100m asset. Of course work goes into it.
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Rado_N is right. Even if you have agreed to do a deal, it is a lot of business to be sorted and legal matters as well.

That said, I guess some find it hilarious because of the media going with the prepare bid every other day.
 
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