That talk died down, no one knows if it's even true. Di Marzio in his latest only talks of Raiola's brokerage/agent fee being additional to the €105m.
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Any update on private jet arrivals in Manchester today?
Who cares about the fee anyway, we got Paul Pogba 
See KM's post above.
The agent fee is for Juve to pay. Nothing to do with us and we could enforce that in court if need be.
Good post! I was very, very negative at the start, so it's fun that you took the time to find that post! And now I'm all butterflies, flowers and rainbows! Cheers, mate!
Doesn't every agent usually get a cut of a transfer deal (#fmknowledge)? The fee might be large on this occasion, but I don't see why it should be talked about in accordance with transfer fees?
Yesterday on the picnic my brother told me, that Juve is expecting Pogba to be back in training on monday and I just laughed at him and sayed to him that he will be United player by wednesday. He said he is happy if Pogba leave because Juve will het 140m€ for him, I didn't know where he picked that number and just sayed to him it is not my money, I just want to watch Pogba in United shirt.
When I came home I saw United tweet and Di Marzio tweet that it is 105+5m€ transfer paid in 3 years. FFS they spend 90m€ for Higuain which will be payed in 2 years, the will not cover Higuain transfer in the first 2 years with Pogba money and Higuain will be 29 years old in december and he was never one of the very best strikers.
Yes I think Juve are getting a lot of money for Pogba but I can't understand how they spend so much for Higuain.
I also don't think we spend that to much for Pogba, I mean we sold C.Ronaldo back in 2008 where the transfer fees were not that big for 94m€ which was paid in 1 payment. Yes he was the best player in the world at that time but getting the biggest talent in midfield position and one of the best midfielders around for just 11m€ more in the 2016 when unproven talents are going for 80m€ (Renato Sanchez and Martial) is a good deal. That we will pay that in 3 years and not in 1 payment in just a bonus. Big bonus.
When I came home I saw United tweet and Di Marzio tweet that it is 105+5m€ transfer paid in 3 years. FFS they spend 90m€ for Higuain which will be payed in 2 years, the will not cover Higuain transfer in the first 2 years with Pogba money and Higuain will be 29 years old in december and he was never one of the very best strikers.
Yes I think Juve are getting a lot of money for Pogba but I can't understand how they spend so much for Higuain.
I also don't think we spend that to much for Pogba, I mean we sold C.Ronaldo back in 2008 where the transfer fees were not that big for 94m€ which was paid in 1 payment. Yes he was the best player in the world at that time but getting the biggest talent in midfield position and one of the best midfielders around for just 11m€ more in the 2016 when unproven talents are going for 80m€ (Renato Sanchez and Martial) is a good deal. That we will pay that in 3 years and not in 1 payment in just a bonus. Big bonus.
I said in all the years I have been supporting United, I never said in the entire history of the club, the 90's is more than 20 years ago, why still speak of the 90's ?
I'am talking about the last 10 years or something, we have had many failed signings, many expensive signings, very few players we actually got that developped into a player that is worth more than we bought him for, let alone much more. Rio, Vida, Carrick and Evra are indeed also examples of value signings, together with the 3 I named that is about it for the past 10 years I think. Not a whole lot if you compare it to other teams. The list of the ones that failed and cost alot of money aswell is considerably longer.
But it is ok we are not a club that has to create value through it is transfer activities, we are a club that has to make value through building and retaining the image of being one of the best clubs in the world and that you can only do that by winning trophies and being successful and United has been just that except the last 3 years ofcourse.
But we do not create alot of value through our transfers, and buying Pogba for more than 100m euros whilst we sold him for 300k is also not value, no matter what way you look at it. But it is ok because we need players like him if we want to win trophies and we want people to regard us as a real top club, so I'am not contesting the signing in any way but people that call it a bargain or creating value, really need to have their head checked. Creating value would have been keeping Pogba in the first place.
It should when it was Juve that owed him it but it's us who are paying it.
this has dragged on longer than it should've. glad regardless that this is finally confirmed to be happening by the club.
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Do you think Mendes didn't get a lot of money when C.Ronaldo came to us? Or Hazard agent when he moved to Chelsea when agents fee was the reason we didn't get him? Of course he did, but no one talk about that and no one add that sum to the transfer fee. Why we should now?
ScoutNation just dropped this...
Great business by Woodward. The fact they've projected earning £40m in his image rights alone in the first year shows how "worthwhile" the fee is.
I didn't say it should be lumped with the transfer fee. The transfer fee to Juve is obvious. I said the agent fee, which 1) is a stupid amount to the norm and 2) isn't even what we should have paid (Juve should have), should be involved in the cost of bringing Pogba to us.
You don't just ignore 20m from the whole transaction when we shouldn't have paid Raiola in the first place.
You're right, it shouldn't be talked about. But you and I both know that rival fans and some in the media will bang on about it - but not the actual price, oh no, they'll keep saying £105 million until it becomes fact. The British press are always great at mixing Euros and Pounds.
This was different though, Raiola owned a certain percentage of Pogba's rights so his cost definitely includes the agent fee. It's still relatively a bargain though.
Lol how did that happen.
Who cares about transfer fees? If you want a player, just pay whatever it takes to get him or you will be left behind and we finally learned this.
did i just here on sky sports the medical could take 3 days?................
No medical has ever taken 3 days. They are just covering their ass because they've been wrong so often
Can't be too careful man. We're going to check every nut and cranny if we're spending £90m on this guy. If he has a wart, we want to know about it.
i hope so..... i mean i want us to be thorough but 3 days...... what would we be doing dissecting him?No medical has ever taken 3 days. They are just covering their ass because they've been wrong so often
So. Many. Probes.
Where will this brokerage fee come from? Fall from the sky?
Of course the cost to us is any transfer fee + agent fee. How is this even debatable?
The other poster was right.
Well, then let's wait till there's any sort of information about the quantum of the agent fees and the breakdown as to who paid it.
I don't think they are usually revealed, but Di Marzio and the like eluded to the agent fees when the deal was held up. The selling club owed Raiola the 20m, but Juve wanted us to pay it instead. We eventually caved - and given the odd nature of such a payment, it shouldn't be ignored really.
Transfer fees are declared standalone, without agent brokerage, registration, attorney and other fees, as well as wages.
This whole window was part of a "masterplan". Mourinhos agent Jorge Mendes clearly knew it would be difficult to get his major clients to United this summer given we weren't in the Champions League, so Jose, Jorge and Ed Woodward planned to target Mino Raiola's best clients this year to improve the squad and this will surely be followed by United signing Jorge Mendes' players in the next summer window.
Thats the window I cannot wait for. When Jorge Mendes drops a catalogue of all his players on Eds desk. Summer 2017 isngoing to be one that dreams are made of.
Great strategy boys. I salute you.
Thats the window I cannot wait for. When Jorge Mendes drops a catalogue of all his players on Eds desk. Summer 2017 isngoing to be one that dreams are made of.
Great strategy boys. I salute you.
Di Marzio currently only talks about brokerage fees and that we are obligated to pay €105m to Juventus. No one is mentioning the 20% cut anymore.
I'm pretty sure the brokerage fees being talked about are a separate issue from the supposed €20m for Raiola which was to do with some agreement he had with Juve.
We will pay the 'brokerage' fee, which is the standard agent fee associated with every transfer ever to take place.
Anything else is between him and Juve.
We will pay the 'brokerage' fee, which is the standard agent fee associated with every transfer ever to take place.
Anything else is between him and Juve.
If United have to pay him 20% to Mino of any fee that they paid Juve, then it's not like the usual agent fee, but an unusual case. The cost to United will still be 1.2 times whatever is paid to Juvenuts.
47 odd posts of mine in this thread not wanting pogba to join United and against United spending so much money. Now that he will be a United player. I hope he shuts all the the people who were against this deal and helps United win major silverware and doesn't feck off to Madrid for his dream move in the next 3-4 years.
I hope Jose manages this guy and the team well now as we seem to have a lot of huge characters in the team. Jose has managed such players before. Hope everything works out of us.
I hope Jose manages this guy and the team well now as we seem to have a lot of huge characters in the team. Jose has managed such players before. Hope everything works out of us.
Yes, however there is no talk currently, of any money being paid to Raiola apart from the usual agent fee, which happens with any transfer.
Or, in a nutshell:
To summarise Di Marzio:
In these minutes the French midfielder is flying right into Manchester with a plane departed from Nice to 10.15. At 13.00 will support the medical tests, the first act of his second spell in Manchester. Juventus from the 'Red Devils' here is the 2.0 Pogba at United.
IT'S FLIGHT TRACKING TIME BABY
¿Problemas de Ereccion?
Nope, we have Pogba. No problemas with my ereccion here