To be fair only Di Maria will be missed. They rest all kinda faded away leaving the club. Even that we recouped most of the money we splashed on him back. Only Rooney contract was mishandled. You just can't bench someone with the most lucrative 5 year contract. That was why he was prefered against Di MAria. Of course LVGs tactics didn't help either. It was actually fecking moyeses fault. imagine Mikhi on the right, ADM in the hole, Martial on the Left and Zlatan at number 9. Ohhh how i personally feel like strangling that moyesey dude now...Feck me, imagine if they were all still here!!!Fecking van Gaal!
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That's good really, it facilitates another signing this summer if needed.
Pogba is a fabulous footballer but he's not on a par with Zidane on the ball.
Ffs
All hail the GodAww I'm going to miss this thread, I went full muppet and it all worked out!
My work in this thread is done.
Next season..... Griezmann
IKR? Pogba has the potential to be a really, really good midfielder but Zidane on his day was simply majestic. Silky touch, one touch turns, vision and pass. Hopefully Pogba could emulate players such as Zidane, but far too early to say Pogba is on par, let alone better.
Seems like net present value win for United and a big one at that.
I'm not so sure. I think him and Zidane are fairly similar. I think none of them come close to Iniesta or even Laudrip.
FWIW, I think Pogba has as good technique as Zidane from what we've seen so far in his career. Definitely comparable.
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pogba getting anywhere near zidane? he would be the best midfielder of his generation for sure.
i quite agree with henry's comment about the mixture of Viera and yaya in pogba. he definitely got traits of them in him. the physicality of viera and the moment of brilliance of yaya. in terms of his skill on the ball, he is fantastic. not quite zidane majestic, but who is?
i quite agree with henry's comment about the mixture of Viera and yaya in pogba. he definitely got traits of them in him. the physicality of viera and the moment of brilliance of yaya. in terms of his skill on the ball, he is fantastic. not quite zidane majestic, but who is?
Zidane was better than Iniesta. If Zidane was playing now people would rightly have him in the conversation with Ronaldo and Messi. He falls a little short of that but he was truly special.
Iniesta is a fabulous footballer. You could pull together stats or videos and say he's better than Zidane at x, y or z. But bottom line, Zidane owned football matches. Routinely. For years. In different leagues too. Iniesta is a short way off that. These are fine margins but Zidane had that extra something. I'm not being romantic when I say that.
Pogba is a good distance behind everyone here. Hopefully he'll get there in the next few years but I doubt he'll ever be as good on the ball as Zidane was. They're completely different players.
I find the Zidané comparisons funny for the reason that Zidané was a great flair player and a great leader, but having someone in a Yaya/Vieira hybrid mould to me is more valuable than having Zidane who won barely anything in his time at Real Madrid.
Zidane wonderful player, one of the GOAT midfielders BUT I'd rather have a Vieira/Yaya in our midfield (a 23 year old one at that).
Zidane would create chances in the EPL but he wouldn't balance the current United squad.
Disagree with you on your points, Iniesta isn't short of anything he "owns football matches" too. Ronaldinho was funner to look at too, but he wasn't better Messi or Ronaldo.
Iniesta is a greater footballer than Zidane and leaves a greater legacy.
Zidane wonderful player, one of the GOAT midfielders BUT I'd rather have a Vieira/Yaya in our midfield (a 23 year old one at that).
Zidane would create chances in the EPL but he wouldn't balance the current United squad.
Disagree with you on your points, Iniesta isn't short of anything he "owns football matches" too. Ronaldinho was funner to look at too, but he wasn't better Messi or Ronaldo.
Iniesta is a greater footballer than Zidane and leaves a greater legacy.
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You're remembering the Zidane from Madrid or maximum from 1998 onwards. By that time, he was 27 (1998) or 29 (Madrid). He'd matured a lot and was at his very peak. Pogba meanwhile is 23 and is just getting better all the time. Statistically, he's already doing what Zidane used to (goals and assist count) but he will only get better. The only reason it's early to compare him is to see his longevity. On talent alone, he's right up there and on prowess at a similar age, he's possibly ahead!
I'm happy for all the transfer muppets.....1025 pages.....wow 
Different strokes for different folks.
There's never any true and final answer when directly comparing players. Especially from different time periods.
The water is always muddied when pulling anyone from that Barca team. On one hand they've got to be great to get in the side. But on the flip side if you're a top player it's going to be hard to look sh1t playing for Barca.
You said on the ball. Iniesta is better on the ball than Zidane and so was Laudrip, in my opinion. Laudrip is more open to debate, I think as they're were both really good and it's a matter of opinion at this point. You say Zidane owned matches routinely? Well, he also went missing in a lot of matches too. That's really one of his only criticisms as a professional. Iniesta was an integral part of arguably the greatest team ever. If not for Messi and Ronaldo, he'd have 2-3 Balon d'or to his name. He absolutely bossed it on the national stage from 2008 to 2012. Scored in a WC final just as Zidane did. Iniesta is the big game player. To say Iniesta is a short way of Zidane is just silly considering Iniesta's career is better than Zidane's, if you take the personal accolades away. I know it may sound lazy, but Iniesta is so unlucky having been sandwiched in between Messi and Ronaldo. He just under so under-appreciated when in reality he's just as much of a super player in his own right.
One of the better ones
Exactly, Zidane was still at Bordeaux at 23.
If so thats a ....good deal.
One of the better ones
Look at what he was capable as a teenager for United. Can't believe he's back.
He has a lot to do to get there Raul. I do see what you are thinking style wise but still I'd take a 23 year old Viera over Pogba and Toure any day of the week. Plus Toure scored a rake that year but Viera was much better player for me as he was awesome for close to a decade not one season. I hope we look back on Pogba though (and we could) and say wow he was the best but for that to happen he's going to have to improve massively to over take Viera. I think he will be better than Toure and that alone at that level is worth buying him!
Huge HUUGE bargain if true.
I can't believe this is coming to a close. Welcome back, Paul!!
So around £89m spread over 3 years? it suddenly seems like an amazing deal for us.
I disagree there. I love Iniesta and he's one of my favorite attacking mids of all time, but Zidane controlled games like I've never seen, and did this in whichever team he was in. He wasn't just about flair and leadership, he was the playmaking and controlling heart of a team, it was really amazing to watch. His highlights only show his technique and goals, but you would have to watch him play to see his greatest strength. It is an ability I haven't even seen with Ronaldo or Messi, these guys dominate mostly with their unreal goal scoring ability whereas Zidane's dominance came from a #8 perspective. If Pogba gets to Zidane level he will be the best player in the world. The scary thing is that the potential is there
does the 89 million include the agent fee?
Love people comparing him to zidane. mental.
mental.I don't think so, but I've seen people say that it is. Let's wait for final confirmation and more info will come on that question for sure.
"Here are the financial details of the deal: Pogba will cost United 105 million euros plus another 5 million euros in bonuses (to be paid in 3 years). The bonus money included in the deal can be reached if Pogba renews his contract with United within the next 5 years or if he is sold by United for a number superior to 50 million euros. These are the final numbers which do not include Raiola's agent fees as he brokered a deal."
No it doesn't. We might be paying an additional 20m to Raiola.
1. No
2. No
3. No - it's actually the biggest point of criticism of him, he failed to maintain his level over the course of the season, he never was "routinely" dominating and the likes of Rui Costa were having better league seasons than Zidane in Juve, for example, despite the latter being a better player, obviously. He had an amazing international career and shone there more consistently than at the club level, but so did Iniesta
We'll need to move out a few players before we buy again. The squad is already jam packed.
That's not certain, is it? Even Di Marzio hasn't confirmed that.
More importantly who is/was the player that received the ball so well despite the trajectory and the speed? Tony V?Look at what he was capable as a teenager for United. Can't believe he's back.
No, there's no confirmation. I'm just assuming we agreed to pay it from the earlier reports.
None of the transfer fees ever include the agent fees. People are idiots if they think that Madrid didn't pay the huge agent fees to Ronaldo and Bale's agents but somehow they are not included in the transfer fees. Even Hazard agent was paid around 5 or 6m pounds in fees.
Concerning the fee, the 105m is including the money we would pay to Railoa or just the money Juve will get. Because else the total fee will be closer to 120m I think.
In anyway it is alot of money for 1 player albeit a very good one but people must remember players like Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar and Suarez moved for less money. So I would be very carefull to describe this move as value, especially since we sold Pogba for 300k to Juve a couple of seasons ago.
I love the club, I love to have Pogba back but in all the years I have been supporting United they have very seldom created value from player signings, Ronaldo, Rooney and DDG being the exceptions.
In anyway it is alot of money for 1 player albeit a very good one but people must remember players like Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar and Suarez moved for less money. So I would be very carefull to describe this move as value, especially since we sold Pogba for 300k to Juve a couple of seasons ago.
I love the club, I love to have Pogba back but in all the years I have been supporting United they have very seldom created value from player signings, Ronaldo, Rooney and DDG being the exceptions.
Pogba is a great signing guys. The one that needed to lift the spirit of the club. We get it, but he is nowhere near zidane level. Thats a tad OTT.