Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

The Bloody-Nine said:
It's hilarious that anyone would believe City were interested.
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I genuinely think it was only Juve. Leonardo at PSG liked him but he was moved on, Real said they weren’t interested…he’s probably the player with the biggest discrepancy between their reputation and performances I can think of.

Played in a stacked France team with peak Kante and Matuidi doing the hard yards and played well. Played well in a stacked Juve team in a relatively uncompetitive league. He hasn’t played well at domestic level consistently since Mou/Ole transition season and that was a one off.
 
McTerminator said:
Are you mad?

After his performances and dressing room disruptions, offering him the same astronomical wages he was already on before the the renewal was generous.

Lucky he turned it down and fecked off.
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He'd already been in talks with other clubs for weeks at the point.

It's like ghosting a girl for so long you've basically broken up with her. But when you next see her in public and there are mates around, you pretend you still care about her and never wanted to it end. All just to convince your friend group that you were the good guy in the whole situation.

By the time we offered the extension it was too little, too late. Pogba was already seeing other men and had even texted his ex.
 
McTerminator said:
Are you mad?

After his performances and dressing room disruptions, offering him the same astronomical wages he was already on before the the renewal was generous.

Lucky he turned it down and fecked off.
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When has Pogba disrupted the dressing room? Please point me to where you got this information.

All reports say otherwise by the way:

“Rangnick valued Pogba’s efforts to mediate aspects of the dressing room. He was also one of the players to command major respect from Cristiano Ronaldo.

Pogba gave encouragement to centre-back Harry Maguire whose final touch had been to clear the ball into the stands. “We have to believe in ourselves,” Pogba said. “You’re an £80 million player for a reason.”

On another occasion, when a meeting of some players with Rangnick about form turned unexpectedly into a targeted tactical discussion, Pogba went back later to apologise to United’s interim manager for the way things had gone.”

He was seemingly one of the few trying to keep the dressing room together
 
golden_blunder said:
It makes me wonder about all those things that were said when he was on international breaks, we usually excused him blaming his agent
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Nobody with any sense absolved Pogba of blame. Like I said at the time - his agent is saying these things because Pogba doesn’t want him to? Of course not.
 
TsuWave said:
When has Pogba disrupted the dressing room? Please point me to where you got this information.

All reports say otherwise by the way:

“Rangnick valued Pogba’s efforts to mediate aspects of the dressing room. He was also one of the players to command major respect from Cristiano Ronaldo.

Pogba gave encouragement to centre-back Harry Maguire whose final touch had been to clear the ball into the stands. “We have to believe in ourselves,” Pogba said. “You’re an £80 million player for a reason.”

On another occasion, when a meeting of some players with Rangnick about form turned unexpectedly into a targeted tactical discussion, Pogba went back later to apologise to United’s interim manager for the way things had gone.”

He was seemingly one of the few trying to keep the dressing room together
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“Everyone within the club [United] from the manager to the owner knows Paul’s wishes,” Raiola told The Times. “Everyone knows the willingness of Paul to move on. We are in the process of that. Everyone knows what the feelings of Paul are.”

2019.
 
TsuWave said:
What exactly has he done wrong? He didn’t like the fact United waited to make him an offer - this was reported in the same Athletic article that mentioned the meeting with Guardiola - and went somewhere else

what is wrong here?
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At a time where people can't afford to fill their car with petrol or their shopping trollys with food, he's whinging about being offered £300k a week to play football for Manchester United.

I appreciate it might be annoying for him but nobody wants to hear it.
 
2 man midfield said:
Nobody with any sense absolved Pogba of blame. Like I said at the time - his agent is saying these things because Pogba doesn’t want him to? Of course not.
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Yeah I thought the same. An agent doesn’t do anything without approval from his client. Especially not multiple times
 
I'm confused about his statement of a "nothing offer". Is he saying we offered him nothing, or that we suggested £300k and that was a nothing offer?

Either way hes a bit of a tit. Making a documentary about a player who has never reached the heights of other great CMs in this generation is pathetic to say the least
 
Dante said:
It's the Tevez situation again.

We didn't want to extend the contract. So we made a half-hearted last minute offer that we could be PR spin it as a player rejection after the event. But to all intents and purposes, it was the club rejecting the player in as passive aggressive a way as possible.
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Exactly and I have zero problems with this. We made him an offer we felt reflected his contribution, he got insulted and fecked off. This is how it should be, and also what we should’ve done at his last renewal.
 
He left us for nothing. We paid a fortune to bring him back and he did nothing of note and is leaving us again for nothing but memories of a whineing, lazy spoilt brat. Now Pogoff.
 
Pogba has to be a social experiment. Only player I’ve seen where people disregard all reports and write their own fanfiction and repeat it enough until it sounds as if it’s true.

Report - Pogba advised Ronaldo to speak to young players differently. Also, encouraged Harry Maguire

Fans - virus. always disrupting the dressing room

Report - Ragnick appreciated Pogba’s efforts to mediate issues in the dressing room, going as far as apologising to the manager when he was ambushed by the players

Fans - he’s a virus

Report - Pogba had a good relationship with Ole and found form and asked for a contract. Ole spoke to higher ups to offer Pogba a renewal and informed Pogba he was waiting for the hierarchy to make a movethis left Pogba disillusioned

Fans - cnut

Report - Pogba had face to face meetings with Guardiola who tried to sell him on City, City offered a contract which would have placed him among highest earners. also had offers from PSG and Juve

Fans - you’re crazy if you think City was interested. Not even PSG was.

Pogba interview before documentary - “money is not the most important thing to me, I want to go where I feel at peace. Where I have a good relationship with the fans. I want to feel loved. I need that. I’ve always liked to be liked, you know, peace of mind”

Fans - I honestly think Juventus were the only ones interested. Why would he go there? Haha shows how shite he is

Pogba - my thought process is to show United they were wrong for making me wait for an offer

Fans - cnut
 
I also love that last part: “and to show other clubs that Manchester had made a mistake in not offering me a contract.”

Yeah we really fecked up not giving Paul Pogba 500k a week. Whatever will the neighbours think?
 
We should've formally binned him off rather than offering a contract. It's what he deserves for his behaviour over the years.
 
As if Pep was ever interested in this Fraud :lol: :lol:.

I'm angry at us for even having offered him another deal.
 
duffer said:
At a time where people can't afford to fill their car with petrol or their shopping trollys with food, he's whinging about being offered £300k a week to play football for Manchester United.

I appreciate it might be annoying for him but nobody wants to hear it.
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People can’t afford to do a lot of things, all the time. I’m one of them. I don’t think it’s a healthy exercise to project your self-loathing or unhappiness with your life at a footballer.
Anger regarding standard of living should be going to Boris or something.

Playing football for Manchester United - as cool as it sounds - it’s still a job. If he doesn’t believe the offer made to him was a fair one, he can say so. Like any other professional. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and my question was “what exactly has he done wrong?”
 
Ah so he's taking a leaf out of the Ander Herrera playbook on running your contract down but blaming the club for not offering a contract at the precise time you wanted one and then triggering their 1 year extension and delaying your departure.

No idea why these cnuts can't just admit they want to run their contracts down for a big payday.
 
@TsuWave where is the fan fiction exactly? People are quoting you VERBATIM what Paul Pogba and his expired agent have said past and present about our club.
 
Red Shorts said:
I'm confused about his statement of a "nothing offer". Is he saying we offered him nothing, or that we suggested £300k and that was a nothing offer?

Either way hes a bit of a tit. Making a documentary about a player who has never reached the heights of other great CMs in this generation is pathetic to say the least
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Ah come on.
He did win a world cup. But then again so did Dugarry, Guivarc'h, Diomede and Boghossian.

He's really nothing special, just a player who is popular in todays social media and video game culture. He was a rubbish signing, his time here was totally forgettable and in years to come he'll be regarded as just another wasted talent who never lived up to the hype.
 
TsuWave said:
People can’t afford to do a lot of things, all the time. I’m one of them. I don’t think it’s a healthy exercise to project your self-loathing or unhappiness with your life at a footballer.
Anger regarding standard of living should be going to Boris or something.

Playing football for Manchester United - as cool as it sounds - it’s still a job. If he doesn’t believe the offer made to him was a fair one, he can say so. Like any other professional. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and my question was “what exactly has he done wrong?”
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Turns out it’s a pretty big problem when you turn it down out of disgust, wait for the phone to ring then find the only other offer you get is one for half that. That probably stings a bit.
 
Dodged a bullet..
Riaola is a legend for not accepting that offer and extending our misery.
 
I'm just happy that he is not our problem anymore. The clique of Lingard and Pogba has destroyed the culture within the club - anyone who joins our club immediately feels like they have made it and just stop putting in efforts to improve as a player and fight for results.
 
Red00012 said:
He’s got nothing but abuse on here
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There are a LOT of defenders of Pogba and his behaviour even in this thread. You don't need to go far to find them. And plenty of people genuinely believed that it was nothing to do with Paul, it was his agent, blah blah. Then there's this video which shows the complete opposite.
 
Been waiting for United to make a sensible decision for once. It’s possible for fans to want him out whilst not hating the man by the way. Maybe people should stop saying there is something wrong with fans who saw him as a bad fit. Facts: has potential, didn’t deliver and had many seasons of evidence to back this opinion up. Result: no point sticking with something that doesn’t work, move him on and good luck for the future.
 
golden_blunder said:
Yeah I thought the same. An agent doesn’t do anything without approval from his client. Especially not multiple times
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And if they do, it's easy for a player to go public and walk that back (or fire their agents). That's why people should never separate what an agents says from the player they represent, it's too easy an excuse for them.

If I had an agent and he was talking shite in public and making me look bad I'd tell him to wind his neck in, and then I'd go public clarifying that his comments don't represent my views. Or I'd fire him.
 
TsuWave said:
What exactly has he done wrong? He didn’t like the fact United waited to make him an offer - this was reported in the same Athletic article that mentioned the meeting with Guardiola - and went somewhere else

what is wrong here?
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Spent the best part of the last 3 years flirting with other teams whilst giving half-arsed performances on the pitch for a club that's paying him ~£275k a week I'm guessing?
 
TsuWave said:
People can’t afford to do a lot of things, all the time. I’m one of them. I don’t think it’s a healthy exercise to project your self-loathing or unhappiness with your life at a footballer.
Anger regarding standard of living should be going to Boris or something.

Playing football for Manchester United - as cool as it sounds - it’s still a job. If he doesn’t believe the offer made to him was a fair one, he can say so. Like any other professional. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and my question was “what exactly has he done wrong?”
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If you’re a salesman and you have the lowest sale numbers of your department year after year, do you expect getting a raise or a better contract?
 
TsuWave said:
People can’t afford to do a lot of things, all the time. I’m one of them. I don’t think it’s a healthy exercise to project your self-loathing or unhappiness with your life at a footballer.
Anger regarding standard of living should be going to Boris or something.

Playing football for Manchester United - as cool as it sounds - it’s still a job. If he doesn’t believe the offer made to him was a fair one, he can say so. Like any other professional. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and my question was “what exactly has he done wrong?”
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There is a big difference between feeling dissatisfied with an offer and dismissing it as "nothing". Furthermore, when you factor in that the offer involved large sums of money (even for a professional footballer) then of course it is going to annoy people who hear him talk like that. It's baffling that you don't understand that to be honest.
 
GazTheLegend said:
@TsuWave where is the fan fiction exactly? People are quoting you VERBATIM what Paul Pogba and his expired agent have said past and present about our club.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. I posted the repeated fanfiction that’s posted in this thread regularly, and asked one specific person to point me to where they got the disrupting the dressing room thing from. One person quoted a Raiola statement regarding Pogba wanting to leave. Is this one of them moments where I ask for X one person provides Z and then someone else (you) jump in and act as if multiple people provided X?

2 man midfield said:
Turns out it’s a pretty big problem when you turn it down out of disgust, wait for the phone to ring then find the only other offer you get is one for half that. That probably stings a bit.
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??? what is a big problem? And problem for whom? It seemingly isn’t for Pogba. He’s made it known money wasn’t is primarily motivation here. United’s offer was still there if he wanted.

None of that has anything to do with what I asked though. “What exactly has he done wrong here?”
 
Commercially and from a marketing point of view, joining ManUtd was the best thing that could've happened to Pogba, especially during the kind of circus we had going on at the club, he took the chance to become the lead clown and is now going to be relevant for things besides football because the hype has been created.
Any decently run club with self respect would've nipped this behaviour in the bud and he'd have to actually play football to make money.
Truly a match made in heaven.
 
TsuWave said:
??? what is a big problem? And problem for whom? It seemingly isn’t for Pogba. He’s made it known money wasn’t is primarily motivation here. United’s offer was still there if he wanted.

None of that has anything to do with what I asked though. “What exactly has he done wrong here?”
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If money wasn’t his primary motivation why did he get butthurt about our offer?

As for the second part how long have you got?
 
Stringer said:
There is a big difference between feeling dissatisfied with an offer and dismissing it as "nothing". Furthermore, when you factor in that the offer involved large sums of money (even for a professional footballer) then of course it is going to annoy people who hear him talk like that. It's baffling that you don't understand that to be honest.
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Can we just be objective, without attaching things to people, for a second

Again, Pogba, like any professional, can be dismissive of an offer if they don’t deem it a good one/fair/whatever.

I asked what exactly has Pogba done wrong here - and all I’m hearing is people furious because their lives suck, which is OK, and understandable, so long as we’re being honest and know he hasn’t done anything inherently wrong here.
 
He should have joined City. He could be the difference so they will dominate in the next 3 months instead of 3 years.
 
I've lost all my sympathy for him now. I maintained that an incompetent set-up prevented him from reaching GOAT-level midfield status - I don't care anymore. It's like he did me a favour, saves me from regret on his behalf
 
Red00012 said:
He’s got nothing but abuse on here
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To be fair he hasn’t done much the last few years to make people back him, poor performances, lots of injuries, many public statements away from the club, running down his contract for the past 2 years letting the club believe he may take another contract

it works both ways
 
He should be able to see why we waited before offering him a contract, if he's honest with himself about how the last few years have gone.

I don't think we've made a mistake in letting him go.
 
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