I'm the first person to criticise him for a bad game, but he is a professional athlete, and will play to win whether he is staying or leaving, and even if you don't belive that, if he is trying to earn a huge offer from somewhere else he is going to be wanting to play like a superstar to get it.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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When Pogba left United for Juventus the same agent was scathing towards our greatest ever manager.
When rumoured to be rejoining United, the agent was vocal in the press about his clients future.
Since joining, that agent has continued the trend of infrequently chatting nonsense.
Raiola if anything is a constant in this situation where as a number of the posters who say they don’t like Pogba because of his agent are the same people saying we should bring Haaland in, a player who. . . has the same representative.
The people that hang on the words Raiola says most are the fans, Pogba has dealt with the man for years & could quite simply just look at the outbursts as par for the course.
The fake outrage at Raiola on here is clear to see if you do a quick post check in transfer threads involving his agents when they’re linked to us.
Playing us like puppets indeed.Can’t believe he’s forcing the club to post videos on our app of him scoring audacious goals in a bid to get PSG or Real to pay up for him
Also in the clips he’s laughing….and I know he’s laughing at us
Virus…get rid.
Great. Reminds me of all those times he was equally exquisite in real matches.
Yes. Especially the handballs in the box that lost us matches, the bad tackles for penalties. Will go down as an Old Trafford legend! Our greatest midfielder who was a serial winner, with a League Cup and Europa League trophy in just 5 years!
Yes of course I expect everyone who plays to be of a certain quality.
But if someone has been signed for a world record fee or close to it then that player should routinely produce world class performances. If they don’t for whatever reason that is going to be under way more scrutiny than a home grown player.
Home grown = minimal cost apart from wages. They will always get an easier ride due to perceived loyalty and Man Utd’s history with bringing players through from the youth team and how important that is to us.
Rightly or wrongly that will always be the case here.
Yet he's representing the club, and is marketing our new kits. Would that be the case if we knew he was going?
How many shirts have been sold with his name on the back? I understand your theory. But that's exactly what it is. Just theory.
I'd actually hate to be wrong. But still think he's stalling for a new contract.
I am a not a fan of his agent either. As most aren't.
Good so certain posters can actually read it everyday why the fans want him to go not due to unprofessional conduct.
I told you already PSG are interested. The issue is that we demanded 70m and the agent demanded high agent fees. And this can easily be solved if we are willing to accept 50m and Pogba tells his agent not to demand high agent fees to allow the move. Just take a look at Varane’s case.
It already has happened before.
If we do give him a new contract, we should put in some kind of gag against Raiola making public statements about Man Utd or the manager. Penalties for talking crap basically.
Given that Haaland is looking more promising now, I wonder if that’s why we’re playing nicely with Raiola still.
The Pogba contract chat does strike me a little as a club going through the motions, or at best trying to protect his value, rather than a sincere desire to keep him beyond next Summer.
The Pogba contract chat does strike me a little as a club going through the motions, or at best trying to protect his value, rather than a sincere desire to keep him beyond next Summer.
That's a weird thing to be concerned about. I would happily take meltdowns here if Pogba stays and does well.
This is something i also suspect. Going to French league is not something he should at this stage of his career.
It might be that it takes some activity in the transfer market to create the demand. Most people know the Premier League clubs are the wealthiest this window, but there will be a knock on effect.
For example if Lukaku goes to Chelsea for €130m then Inter may become interested. If that happens rather than PSG believing it's a choice between €70m now or nothing in 12 months, it becomes now or never.
With the top 6 in the PL still likely to spend £300+m they'll be a lot of activity resulting from this. I thought any Pogba transfer was going to be towards the end of the window.
If that had to happen, it would have happened already, and from Pogba's side. That it hasn't means he's perfectly happy with his agent using the media as a marketing/negotiating tactic, and the club knows they can't control everybody.
This is why I predict he wont sign and leave for free to Spain or Italy
On a FREE then.
What’s my ‘theory’?
People are theorising that Pogba is somehow behind/in agreement with his agents comments with no grounds to do so; all I’ve said is his agent has always talked a lot - not a theory an observation.
Where have I talked about shirt sales & marketing? Was this post even meant for me?
I think a positive start to the season by the team and some free flowing football can sway him to sign a new deal and commit. PSG is an uncertain project, I think he'd be sensible to renew.
Madness, But I think Pogba will stay for this season and go on a FREE Next year.
Telegraph (horrible rag these days, but not necessarily wrong on this) are saying Pogba will start the season in our squad and then make his mind up before the transfer deadline. Not the way to do things if you have any regard for your current employers being able to plan ahead - though my impression of all this is that none of the very few clubs that could afford him is minded to shell out fees and salary right now, so the face saver is going to be 'I've chosen to stay / we've chosen to keep him".
The bit about Raiola is not strictly true
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.sky...summer-transfer-window-says-agent-mino-raiola
if memory serves I think there might be one from last season too
Yeah I was a bit annoyed by that because our options will be closed by that time. They should give him a deadline and be prepared to move on it
But club cannot really do anything if he refuses to go to PSG and wait until the summer and go on a Free.
Just hope that if this is the case his performances don't drop for us this season. It's a big risk, imo.
Fair enough, to be honest i'd forgotten that one.
I think this was when Raiola was talking at the golden boy awards right? he was speaking to an italian paper. Raiola says a lot of things and backtracks on them, I think his way of negotiating is very aggressive and public.
IMO the way I see it - Raiola is doing his job and trying to get Pogba the best contract possible. He doesn't care whether it's at United or elsewhere, and will do or say anything to get the job done.
It seems at some point (mainly when he was having injury issues) we refused to match what he wanted, so Raiola wen't public and said he's unhappy, wants to leave etc.
Since that point he recovered his form, injuries are behind him and the noise has become a lot more positive.
It's no coincidence he's running his contract down as he will end up getting a higher wage offer elsewhere that he can use as leverage. It's up to the club to decide whether it's worth matching that or letting him walk.
As long as he is fully commited here and keeps playing his best that's all I care about. If he ends up leaving to PSG for a huge contract then crack on, we will move on.
Lukaku won’t leave next year for free though. Pogba will. Big difference why we need to lower our demand and give ourself only two choices whether cash in or tell the player to sign a new contract.
Yeap I think so too.
Think he will leave on a free next year too. It's the best way to get a massive contract and a big payout for Mino.
Do you think it would sway the caf into not being so fecking negative? I hope so...
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To be honest a lot of negativity comes from uncertainty and Pogba hadn't helped himself in that regard.
I feel like we should be working on contingencies up until we can't. We've improved drastically at handling signings and I see us making the best out of whatever happens. Shit happens, and we'll deal with it.
I've moved on from that, shit happens. Looking forward to the season regardless
Pogba and Mbappe are both free agents in 2022.
What if we entertain a Pogba + 20m trade offer? I don't believe Pogba actually wants to join PSG and Ligue 1, but in a imaginary scenario. Could we tempt Mbappe to our project and make him forget about Real?
What if we entertain a Pogba + 20m trade offer? I don't believe Pogba actually wants to join PSG and Ligue 1, but in a imaginary scenario. Could we tempt Mbappe to our project and make him forget about Real?
It would be more like 100m plus Pogba seeing as PSG are Still valuing Mbappe at over 150m apparently.
Absolutely. The point is there is no point in significantly reducing our demands when there's a lot of business left this Summer.
If PSG are still the only interested club in a couple of weeks once the likes of Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc have spent another £300m between them then I'd agree.
If he gives everything for the team and help win the title/CL this season and then leave for free then I won't hold any grudge.
I'm sure they'll have both angles covered. Keep him, good. Not signed a contract in Jan, keep scouting and sounding out players. I mean players are sold unexpectantly and replaced every summer and January by clubs aren't they, and this shouldn't be too much of a suprise if he goes.
I don't get why his performances drop off if he doesn't sign a contract tbh, never have. If he wants to go to a top club, then he'll need to play well. And the other side to this is that he seems to me, to be the sort of player who just enjoys playing football.
Why are you limiting the options? If, and its a big if, the club do still believe they can keep Pogba and they believe him to be World Class, then why would you shut that door completely?
I get all the arguments about consistency etc but there should also be an undoubtable stance from everyone in here that his talent and ability is up there with the very best in World football. If you are the club and Manager who have someone like that and he's popular, hard working and professional then I think you've got to do your best to keep him and get the best out of him.
Not a chance in hell. People love to moan and shout into the wind.
This squad is so exciting and laden with talent that I love to watch, Pogba being right up there.
Paul Pogba is ‘absolutely amenable’ to signing a new United contract as per @AndyMitten (Talk of the Devils)
Nothing to do with consistency etc. It has something to do with the fact that Pogba has a lot of value in him and if we lose him for free next year then it will be disaster because we will struggle to get a new midfielder while we would lose high value player for feckin free!!
If he signs a new contract now then we wouldn't be losing him for free. If we cash in now, we would have 50m to get a midfielder that has potential also benefit for the team to challenge the league. If we cash in sooner, that's even better as it will allow the manager to make a plan to who he can get with that 50m that suits the team and transform the team.
I was half joking… the Caf has always been a platform for irrational debate.
But seriously, After 5 years here, has Pogba “done well”? I would say no. Why would you need / want another 5 years?