Cant blame when he is about to leave in 5 months for free. He should just extend if PSG dont pay up this summer.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Covid told me we'd be friends forever
That's what reports say the club is negotiating for. Or you feel he should just sign whatever is in front of him?
Of course they do, but that's not the point is it? Perceived value prior to signing and his actual value are two entirely different things. Do you expect less from Rashford because he was a youth product, or almost nothing from Cavani because he was a freebie? You expect them all to be of a certain quality. When you decide whether you resign a player or if they are an important member of the team, then the transfer fee you paid 5 years ago has absolutely no bearing. Criticism of his transfer fee falls squarely at the feet of the people that negotiated and agreed it.
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If you think a player has no control over what the agent he employs says about him, you probably shouldn’t advise others on head-use.
Why would he want to do that? That's just not realistic.
We waited way too long to offer him a new contract. You put yourself in a really shitty situation if the player has only 1 year left
Who said that? Clearly we should give him a good offer.
I did kind of hint that we had fecked ourselves. It also is realistic for him to do the honorable thing given he has spent most of his footballing career at United. He came from our academy and has always been shown respect by the club. No reason for him to purposely run down his contract given we are even willing to sell at what we previously bought him for. Ive also seen reports that we are looking to increase his wages.
Interesting article in the mirror quoting moyes.
Moyes told beinSports: "I have to say I learnt a lesson a little bit from the owners of Manchester United at that time.
"I think Wayne eventually put a transfer request in, and the owners of Manchester United turned around and said, 'You don't think we listen to transfer requests? We've had far better players, many better players put in transfer requests. We tell them when we want them to leave Manchester United’.”
Sounds as if the Glazers would rather see out his contract than sell on the cheap, the issue is simple, no one has the money to buy him.
Moyes told beinSports: "I have to say I learnt a lesson a little bit from the owners of Manchester United at that time.
"I think Wayne eventually put a transfer request in, and the owners of Manchester United turned around and said, 'You don't think we listen to transfer requests? We've had far better players, many better players put in transfer requests. We tell them when we want them to leave Manchester United’.”
Sounds as if the Glazers would rather see out his contract than sell on the cheap, the issue is simple, no one has the money to buy him.
Pogba agent stated he wants to leave at the end of the season, in before a very big game. Didn't that destabilize the team then? Has Pogba said something to clarify that's not his position? He didn't from what we know, at lease not publicly so no, I don't think that's respectful from Pogba.
I couldn't care less what comes from the club about the players, I'd expect nothing less than he's a great guy.
Again, an agent is your representative and speaks with specific intentions. I have no problem with Pogba wanting out, but I have no sympathy for him the together with Raiola they handled that situation. It's fine if you like him, just let's not pretend he has nothing to do with his agent actions.
We'll see. I hope I'm wrong.
You've said there are a whole host of players and then compared him to the 8th wonder of the world that Ronaldo is.
Those two aren't even in the same league when it comes to drive hunger and determination.
This was at the point where it was civil war between him and Jose. Jose had the press label him a virus and the fans turned on him, of course he wanted to leave.
Ever since Jose went and Ole came he's been completely different. Raiola has barely said a word since that point.
Is it true Pogba wanted to leave then? yes. Is it true he's happy here now, his family are settled and he's considering staying? yes.
Maybe he will want to try a different challenge? who knows. People need to get over the fact a footballer doesn't want to spend his career all in the same place.
I'm sure though if he can see the team is being ambitious and will be aiming for trophies he will be happy.
Would you drop Mbappe if you were Pochettino?
Perhaps - perhaps not.
But it certainly could have, which is bad enough.
Generally, I think it's fair to hold Pogba responsible to some extent for his agent's outbursts. Pretending he has no influence over what Raiola says about United is quite bizarre - and completely unnecessary, I could add: Pogba isn't a horrible twat for letting his agent play a certain game, that's just business as far as I'm concerned - the bizarre part is, again, pretending he's 100% innocent.
I agree, if Pogba told him to sit on his hands or I'll agent up with someone else, he would, wouldnt he? So even though I'm fully behind Pogba, he's not totally blameless for Raiola's comments.
Or Dybala, Goretzka, Camavinga and Dembele for their respective clubs?
Funny how Raiola only feels the need to talk shit about us for Pogba every year whereas for the rest of his clients he keeps his mouth shut until they want a move.
Yes - clearly. Pogba is extremely marketable - Raiola wouldn't want to lose him.
His agent made some blatantly disrespectful comments about United (on multiple occasions). Many people reacted to those comments, fans were outraged, etc. Pogba did nothing to distance himself from it in any shape or form.
Again, to me that doesn't make him a horrible cnut - but it seems obvious enough that he didn't have a problem with what his agent had to say.
Can’t believe he’s forcing the club to post videos on our app of him scoring audacious goals in a bid to get PSG or Real to pay up for him
Also in the clips he’s laughing….and I know he’s laughing at us
Virus…get rid.
Also in the clips he’s laughing….and I know he’s laughing at us
Virus…get rid.
Can’t believe he’s forcing the club to post videos on our app of him scoring audacious goals in a bid to get PSG or Real to pay up for him
Also in the clips he’s laughing….and I know he’s laughing at us
Virus…get rid.
Dkm
Huh? When has Pogba played number 10 for us for more than 1 match or late in a game?
Pogba really loves Matic doesn't he.
Grant didn't want to touch the ball in case it was infected
Yeah you're right. Pogba can't evade responsibility for Raiola's actions, I entirely agree. I just object to people calling Pogba a virus - that's nasty, dehumanising language, and United fans shouldn't be using it to describe our own players. He deserves balanced criticism, that points out his sometimes erratic form and the destabilising impact of Raiola's fat mouth, but also the fact that by all accounts he's a great influence in the dressing room, he's regularly produced match-winning performances for us, he's always turned up at training sometimes ahead of schedule at the club's request. When people call him a virus they're saying that he gives nothing positive to the club, which is just not true.
i know you're not saying that, but that was the quote I was originally responding to.
PAUL we have signed your international team mate and still trying to get the young midfield talent who looks up to you, what more can we do for you to actually sign that contract
Sign Mbappe
Unfortunately we haven't got City's Football Manager like bottomless pit of cash
€75-100m we still haven't learnt how to sell players I see.
we still haven't learnt how to sell players I see.Nope, PSG can pay 400k to Pogba and then renew Bruno Shaw and Maguire at 300k each when their agents make noises.
We can't.
new signing ?
It means dont kill me
Yes he clearly is going to publicly shame and slam his agent isn’t he.
Swear people think the footballing business is like a football video game
On the bolded part, I seriuosly doubt people have problem with Pogba wanting to leave. It would be interesting to do a pole, but judging by the Cafe I think 99% don't take it personally.
The problem is how this situation is being managed and how it puts the club in difficult situation.
Couldn't agree more.
Fair enough. I don't know if calling him a virus is a thing here, mostly people "joking" about it.
I do think however the post quoted below:
is a fair judgment of situation.
He'll sign a new contract, and stay.
Oh I’m not a sociopath
I’m happy to let him leave on a free next summer. Or sell him for 35/40/50m This summer. Why? Resigning him to 5 year contract this summer would mean a financial commitment of £100m in wages, plus the non-stop circus that is Pogba. I’d rather bring in Camavinga, who will have less than half his wages.
I’m also concerned that the Caf will implode if we have another 5 years of nonstop Pogba debate. Seriously, he’s too polarizing of a player...