Bye. Should have never came back. Waste of money and space.
Paul Pogba officially leaves Manchester United
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We can have a conversation.
Whats to discuss? Pogba is one of the most talked about players in the game and apart from which of his socks he puts on first theres nothing else to know.
He did score a 8 or 9 ONCE a season. My biggest disappointment was on Europa final, as I know he is normally more motivated in those important game, but he still didn't show up.
Well you can have that and don’t butt into a conversation about him then.
One good game every season. Mostly half assed in his general play. Certainly won't be missed. Wouldn't even get a picture of a spitfire from me, on his way out. Maybe a haribo..
I beg to differ. Bobby Charlton's combover dancing in the wind was supposedly a thing of beauty. Nobby's hair was close to perfect, which helped to distract you from his mouth.
Ouch...
He’s going to Juve. He’ll enjoy it there, he’s only getting slower.
Imagine him going to PSG and then Mourinho becomes their manager 
That would be amazingImagine him going to PSG and then Mourinho becomes their manager
Juve or PSG. Probably Juve
I was going to say he could have been great in one of the Man Utd teams of old, but thinking about it some more I think he'd have lasted about 5 minutes before Roy Keane decked him. Completely the wrong mentality.
It's mildly amusing seeing all these players leaving and finding out what their actual market worth is.
It's mildly amusing seeing all these players leaving and finding out what their actual market worth is.
Such a waste of money seriously, came for world transfer record fee and left for free, always underwhelming in overall season. While true we never had a good set up, but dude couldn't even be arsed.
Trying to make it sound like he will choose Juve ahead of other options when there aren’t any. PSG need a functional midfield to support their attackers and Real Madrid have far better midfielders on their bench with another on the way.
His only offer is Juve.
His only offer is Juve.
I don’t think he’s trying to make it sound anything. These things only exist in your head.
Yeah, that’s right. Because footballers don’t have publishers, media reps, agents or anything like that. Their finances and potential to make money through brands and merchandising aren’t in any way connected to what stories are put out there about them.
You are extremely naive.
He would probably make a u-turn in terms of mentality towards Jose, flourish under him and both of them end up laughing at us.Imagine him going to PSG and then Mourinho becomes their manager
The one and only reason Pogba will go to Italy is the brain return policy https://wandererswealth.com/tax-incentive-italy/
Same reason Ronaldo went there for the two years he did.
Although I'm not 100% on whether it's been changed or still going, if anyone knows better than me please pipe up, but financially that sort of scheme is unbeatable. If Pogba takes a pay cut there, technically he will still earn more after tax, at least under that scheme if it's still a factor.
Same reason Ronaldo went there for the two years he did.
Although I'm not 100% on whether it's been changed or still going, if anyone knows better than me please pipe up, but financially that sort of scheme is unbeatable. If Pogba takes a pay cut there, technically he will still earn more after tax, at least under that scheme if it's still a factor.
He didnt look that great even compared to the mediocrity around him, he just couldnt be bothered to make the effort.
"More than you believe. Happy New Year."
Money lost versus what we received in return makes this one of the poorest transfers in our more recent disastrous transfer history.
That's not true. He has a marketing value that's worth millions worldwide, making the money argument irrelevant (or rather one in his favour). One can't say the same about other expensive recruits, including the captain.
But we can (and should be) discussing his return on the field compared to other players, and he is not the worst, not at all.
His marketing value meant little to us. We are Man Utd, he built his brand off us
In what way is he good for marketing?
Sponsors. Which is the main priority of the glazers. Hence we offered him a stupid wage to stay regardless if he suits the team
It means Adidas pays more money to have him at the club. He was already a big player when he came to United. And he kept building his brand, in parts thanks to United, but also thanks to his own success with France.
When you do this at the biggest sporting event in the World, you make yourself even more marketable.
I don’t think any fact backs this up. It will have improved Pogbas deal with Addidas but not ours. He was a player from a lesser watched league playing for a team with a fan base leagues below ours. What did he bring? Sancho will be the new face now, not because he’s a marketable superstar but because he’s a star who plays for Utd.
He played for Juventus, not for Genoa. In that period of time, Juventus were reaching CL-finals. The CL is still the most watched league. Not one single PL club played a final between 2013 and 2017... So yes he was already a star.
This is from a few years back, but we have now passed Juventus in this ranking. United now has 58 M followers on Instagram vs Juventus' 54M (no other English club has 40M+).
When it comes to players Pogba is in a league of his own, he is the PL's second most followed player behind Cristiano. Only Salah in third is somewhat close to him. Others have less than half of his following.
Adidas does pay United a special bonus for having Pogba. (very few Adidas players in the world can replace that). Juventus has a similar deal with Adidas, that deal will get hurt with losing Dybala, which gives them a big financial incentive to bring Pogba...
I hope you're right about Sancho. I love him.
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No one was interested in buying him. Now there’s a lack of takers interested in grabbing him on a free.
That’s what spending six years being a dosser does to your reputation.
That’s what spending six years being a dosser does to your reputation.
I'm delighted that Real have publicly stated they are not interested in him. The club needs to rebuild it's reputation and "salting the earth" around players like Pogba is one way they can do that. Woodward did a lot of damage to the clubs reputation but for me the worst thing he did was make us appear to be some sort of "sneaky" operation. swooping in on deals, releasing stories about interest in players as distractions and then leaving them high and dry always left a bad taste in my mouth.
Making it plain to other clubs the "issues" there have been with Pogba is the right way to go. it also acknowledges that we took a massive gamble on an immature player and messed up. With all that is going on in the world at the moment, people have very little patience for Prima Donna's. Do the work...we don't mind you taking the big bucks. Mess around and be high maintenance....get rid!
Making it plain to other clubs the "issues" there have been with Pogba is the right way to go. it also acknowledges that we took a massive gamble on an immature player and messed up. With all that is going on in the world at the moment, people have very little patience for Prima Donna's. Do the work...we don't mind you taking the big bucks. Mess around and be high maintenance....get rid!
Not sure if posted
Also not sure if we're ready
Also not sure if we're ready
We've got to get over this whole what would Fergie do, what would Keane do, stuff the whole time.
Totally different eras.
Were Juve the only big club interested in him?
Problem is that his so called great talent is just fiction. Some talent but thats it. He might be world greatest man. And I am sure he is nice player if you want to have fun in dressing room. But as a player football goes first and there have been zero professionalism duing his years. Amborse says workrate is issue. Well, as a player if you don't work what is point of playing you? We are also talking about a central midfielder. You could throw me in the middle of the park for less money.
how suprising and completely out of character
Yeah, I have been saying this for years. I have never heard anyone come out and say Pogba is a prick. Everything I see from him and others suggests hes a fun guy who would be a good mate to have around. Problem is, this isn't a pub team doing it for the socials. You don't want players that no one likes in your team but you also don't want players who don't give a shit if you win or lose. Players who don't work for the team or put the team above themselves. You can deal with greedy and self-centred players when they are carrying the team or putting in performances week in week out but you can't keep those players if they are putting in those performances 1 in 5 games. Salah is greedy but he backs it up with the goods.
If I was to rank what makes a good player, their personality and affability would rank very low once you were at "isn't a dick" levels. Work rate, desire, selflessness, consistency, application, output would all rank far higher. I don't dislike Pogba at all beyond his lack of effort for United but its hard to argue that he has given it even close to his all since coming back.
He will regret it at the end of his career I imagine. Perhaps not.