Phenomenal footballer. Good luck to him wherever he goes next because he deserves better than this shite
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He was fun to watch today. The second half dip wasn't down to him exclusively, because it happened to the whole team. But, his performance in the first half especially was great.
Him and Sancho were head and shoulders in 1st half, 2nd half he faded like most of the team.
Nice goal, did well in the air defensively. Burnely always suit him.
But out of possession he's moving like a 34 year old.
But out of possession he's moving like a 34 year old.
Still way off the mark regarding match fitness, but as against Boro one of the best performers on the pitch.
Thought he was very average today other than the goal. Also, he still shouldn't be playing 90 minutes, he was knackered too soon
Very good in the first half but poor in the second. Lost most of his 50/50s in the second half.
You are aware of the level of Pogba's performances for us over the last few years, right? Or was the first half the only 45 mins you've seen him play for us?
Agree. He has had two very good first halfs now, but disappeared around 60th minute (prob match fitness).
Defensively midfield is still appalling! Like a bunch of headless chickens.
Defensively midfield is still appalling! Like a bunch of headless chickens.
Football isn’t for you
As of now we can't afford to let him go as McTom, Fred & Matić are heading dangerously into championship level.
Failed to control the game for 90 minutes. That eventually cost us the game. We badly need quality in the middle, Pogba isnt the answer.
Mate watch his game last season at turf moor to see how good a top performance from him can be. Today his game was significantly less impressive than that and his passing in particular was mediocre. I'm not saying he was bad, just that it was a very average performance
Our best player yet again.
If you can't see his obvious talent then maybe you should re think how you watch the game
We’ve loaned everyone out so we’ve barely got a midfield to rotate him out with at this point
Fitness is not there yet. Big guys like him can take a while to get back up to speed after a spell out, what is he 6-4 and probably near 90KG, which for a footballer is a lot of bulk to carry around a pitch for 90 mins. Skinny at that size for a normal person.
I do think that he and Bruno played well together, there was some promise in that duo, Bruno a little deeper, Pogba finding Sancho and Rashford on the diagonals. Scott is not a real sitting player though, lacks the composure on the ball to start the passing.
Scored a goal. Thought his job was done for the day and basically disappeared in the second half.
Good goal. And an overall ok performance. He’s played a lot worse, that’s for sure. I like the surging runs but cannot fecking stand the way he constantly seeks a physical battle almost every time he gets on the ball. Especially when he’s about as likely to lose them as he is to win them. It’s just a really bad flaw in his game.
He could have controlled the game better in the second half. noticeably lost most of the 50/50s in the second half.
Pogba, Sancho and Varane were by far our best players today. But as always with Pogba you have the usual suspects on here trying to put a negative spin on it. The team faded second half so it’s understandable that any and all of our players will have a lesser impact. We should’ve affected the game earlier by bringing off dross like McT and Cavani.
It’s infuriating. You can see it coming a mile off when a simple five yard pass will suffice.
Yes but this guy has only posted in three player performance threads after the game. He thinks Rashford and Dalot played well but has come here to criticise Pogba. His agenda is pathetic really so I wouldn’t die on that hill when he’s criticising one of our best players tonight and defending players who didn’t play anywhere near to Pogbas level.
He was good again first half but a total passenger second half. Pretty synonymous of his United career really. Never seen a player like him who can go from one extreme to the other in a single match quite as often as he does. This is why he frustrates so much as the ability isn't the issue with him. It's putting it to use consistently.
He's still not deserving of 400k a week.
He's still not deserving of 400k a week.
What did you make of Bruno tonight? For me he was a level below Pogba first half and about three levels below second half.
Can’t really evaluate him but this guy seriously wasting his career here.
He's a millionaire. We are the ones wasting our time and money watching this crap
I wouldn’t call it looking for a physical battle per se. If someone is on him when he gets the ball, he’ll hold them off, or try to, and then lay it off when a pass comes. If a first time pass is on, he’ll pass it.
It’s just like a striker holding the ball up against a defender. If you play the ball to a target man, with a defender on his back trying to get the ball, you will want him to hold the defender off and keep the ball for your team until he can lay it off. It’s typically called ‘good centre forward play’ in such circumstances. When a defender is trying to put Pogba under pressure, he will often back in and ‘hold it up’ until he can lay it off. And sometimes he won’t, and the defender will win it, hey.
Shame it's one game in 5 for the last 5 years. You need more than talent to succeed.
You should watch more games then. Because it happens in almost every game. Especially in a game where there is a clear contrast between a period of you being dominant and being dominated as a team. You can literally pick almost any footballer and say the same. Like, in any given game you could say Gnabry was brilliant in the first half causing all sorts of problems but if in the second half Bayern are under pressure and can’t go forward then that analysis of Gnabry will likely be limited to the first half. There was a clear contrast in Manchester United in the first half and second half tonight, expecting somehow for there to be no difference in Pogba’s game from both is optimistic. What is far more likely, in fact, is that you do not see many players play brilliantly for 90 mins nearly as often as you seem you think you do until you enter the PP thread. It’s not actually the norm. Games have flows to them.
And are you the only person seeing all of these ‘Pogba won’t stay unless he’s given £400k a week’ articles as you have been stuck on what seems like an arbitrary figure for almost 2 years now. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t want to see us pay him 400k either, but I don’t see why the fact we don’t want to see that remains such a topic. Literally nobody is talking about that.
Well, he's been as much a part of the problem as anybody else. Let's not rewrite history and pretend he's been like Steven Gerrard was in that shite Liverpool side, for example. Because he's been nowhere near that level at any point of his time here. He's been a highlight reel player that has rarely ever dominated a game, but can produce the odd moments here and there to give you hope he still might become the colossus we expected. Yet he doesn't.
If he's wasting his career then what about Bruno, who has been infinitely better in a shorter space of time.
Maybe he should play centre forward then, because that way of playing precentages isn’t good in midfield. Luckily Maguire at least doesn’t do that (or is that maybe exactly what he does nowadays?).
To be fair, I thought Pogba had a good game today 7,5/10 first half, 6/10 second half. He forgot himself a couple of times going back, but nothing really big. He can really play a part in such a team as we were in the first half. Second half, he was no better and no worse than most of our other players.
I'm shocked others aren't seeing this. He looked like when you call up a talented 17 year old out there in those challenges today.
He'll start giving a feck at a better club and do well there.
He's underrated here because decent performances like this get swept under the rug. By next week people will say he hasn't been good in 2 years or whatever massive exaggeration is normal in Pogba discussions. Half of it isn't even related to football. Meanwhile favourites like Bruno or Rashford to a lesser extent have their poor play swept under the rug. Found myself getting annoyed with Pogba a lot but he has always been very useful, even when playing average. That ability to get on the ball from slightly deeper is some of the best in our squad.
Or just play football. Holding opponents off is a part of football, and is fairly useful to do all over the pitch. And if Harry Maguire finds himself with the ball and an opponent on his shoulder without an immediate pass on, he will hold off his man for a couple of seconds too. And he does, every game, around his own corner flag as most defenders do. Usually before trying to either clear the ball or kick it off their man and win a goal kick or throw in. This really is a non-issue tbh.
Regarding the performance, I see it pretty much the same as you. Seen him play better, seem him play worse. Was a good game, but not the type of ‘good game’ that is referenced in the whole ‘one good game every 5 games’ analogy. Those games are usually great/amazing games. These ones are ‘good games’ for now, as we are in the immediate aftermath of it and claiming he was terrible would obviously be a stretch, we all finished watching the game 5 minutes ago. That said, give it a month or two, and this is the exact sort of performance that gets silently shifted into the ‘other 4 bad games’ category. Maybe not this one because it was marked by a goal, otherwise, it would be forgotten before long. To be fair, it wasn’t a memorable game goal aside, and if not for a goal, would certainly not make the ‘5 good games a season’ list in a post season review. The games that would be referenced would be the ones where big goals/assists were scored as we would still remember those as positives.
Anyway, thankfully this tiresome back and forth should be drawing to a close fairly soon.
It's not low percentage football. Getting a defender to commit is needed for creating forward passes when none are immediately available. Every time someone closes they leave a gap behind. He isn't just doing it to show off his strength. Underrated ability.
I agree completely. It's the equivalent of a perimeter player drawing a hard double in basketball. It is designed to create an advantage by creating spaces. Not many players can withstand being pressed the way Pogba can.
Absolutely agree with you there. He is our most talented player be a distance, its just been such a shame his drive and attitude hasn't matched his ability. Will be difficult to watch when he moves and decides to put some effort in wherever he ends up.
He has succeeded, though. Well, everywhere but here, but no one succeeds here anymore. He's not some Ravel Morrison type. He's been a key player for trophy winning France and Juventus teams. He'll be back to competing for the big trophies next season whilst we continue to flounder.
Good half hour when given time and space but then vanished when the going got tough.
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