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No chance that will happen with that cnut Souness around. Neville's not much better either, to be honest.
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Richards - "We're here to be neutrals"
No chance that will happen with that cnut Souness around. Neville's not much better either, to be honest.
Tore Leeds apart and ripped theirs scum hearts out. Completely dismantled them. The positions he took up off the ball when Greenwood, Bruno, and James were up running around were top class. The movement around and ahead of him was nothing short of class. Leeds were out classed again at OT.
I feel like he's entering the peak years of his career at the moment and there's a massive chance of Utd finishing top of the table come the end of the season if he can stay fit. Last season when he was fit he was a difference maker and we saw in the Euro's how high his level is. His vision and ability to play a final ball is as good as you'll find in world football at the moment. Want to see him get into more goal scoring positions because i believe with how cleanly he can strike a football he should EASILY be hitting double figures. When he has the ball 30 yards from goal with space infront of him its almost like half a chance with how well he can strike a football.
This is it for him. The club has finally surrounded him with quality all over the pitch, he's started the season in sizzling form, I want to see him grasp this opportunity and run riot this year, shove it down the throats of all of the doubters, grab the league by the scruff of the neck and dominate. Really excited to see what the next couple of months bring for him.
Nah no way
I think it is true for short passing. But, not for long passing. He is not even Carrick's level yet or does not show it enough at this point.
not true. we're still light in terms of quality in arguably the most important part, midfield.
This better be in his end of season highlights.
Don't get me wrong, Pogba had an excellent game like several he has had in the past. Now let see him do it for 2 months consistantly and against top of the table teams and not a middle of the road team. He won't get that time and space against Chelsea and City.
More propaganda
Pogba and anyone making a run off the ball have an underrated connection.
Scholes doesn't dwell on the ball and his consistency on the balls came late in his career. I would wait before making a comparison.
Except when he played for England.
Anyone else think Ole is letting Pogba play a free role and less discipline so that Pogba may think twice about staying?
Scholes was a better short passer. Had a fantastic range. Scholes had great pass selection too and this allowed him to keep the ball more often than not, and he was also better at making himself available for a pass than Pogba.
Pogba is a better final passer though for my money, Scholes simply didn’t create the same volume of direct chances and with the same range of final pass either. He’s obviously created goals and chances too, but not at the same volume. His passing was more into channels.
If I had to summarise, Scholes was undoubtedly the better passer in his own third (and the middle third), Pogba the better passer in the final third. And I think Pogba may slightly edge the long-passing too, although both excelled here. Just think Pogba has a bit more variety in his bag in terms of volleys, inside/outside etc.
Then there’s also the fact that every pass Pogba can hit with his right foot he can also hit with his left.
I was going to post that I think he's the best passer I've seen play for us. He definitely plays some passes that no one else at United could. He can hit the ball with such power over long distances that he's perfect for launching counter attacks.
Nah, he had a similar role in the later part of last season too.
Perfectly summarized.
I agree. I think Pogba is a better final 3rd passer than Scholes.
His final 3rd passing is criminally underrated by the media and fans.
Neville is out of touch with reality here and unfortunately many go along with the his same argument, that Pogba should come out and discount what his agent says. Managers, family, ex players, international coaches, FIFA Presidents (Ronaldo and slavery) blab all the time about players at club level, how often do players sit there and hold a conference and clarify their position - almost never but, Pogba is a villain for it.
Depends on the game. Leeds was a very high octane game played at a mad intensity. Plus he was a LW who set up so many great chances, so his pass completion rate doesn't really matter in this case.
He is such a joy to watch when he is at his best. Regardless if he signs a new contract or not, I’m going to enjoy him tearing it up this season. Cant wait to see him play with Sancho; it’s really going to open up the pitch. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when Rashford is back and fit. Competition is great for the team and we are going to have some exciting options coming off the bench!
The circus is his agent and family and he should be doing better to shut it up. I can understand that he's only human and as great as he is he hasn't been able to win much during our dark times. But when United are on the up, I would expect him to get on board with the project.
That being said, what a match he had! If he can be fit, available and put in the effort like he did, he changes the outlook of the team completely. I have been right pissed at him during the off season but if he's staying I m cheering him on even if for a season.
Also, Paul Scholes He scores ( scored? ) goals.
I agree, there should be context for everything. I was checking for consistency as context was something that was missed when pass completion % was used previously.
Final third? Yes. Overall Not a chance.
Scholes was incredible passer both short and long, with insane accuracy. We used to attack from wings consistently, most of the time our wingers faced 1v1 with the defenders, one of the reason for that was Scholes ability to pick the wingers with ease and consistently.
Disagree. Pogba might be slightly better at through balls but that's it. A huge part of passing ability is the ability to do it in all sorts of conditions - including situations where space is at a premium. The difference is that Scholes' football brain worked faster than most which meant that in the situations where Pogba's holds on to the ball too long or misplaces passes due to panic/poor decision making, Scholes had already worked out exactly what he wanted to do. As much as I enjoy watching Pogba he doesn't have that playmaking ability. Plus, Scholes short passing in terms of pure ability was better. Pogba's is fine but it's the creative plays where he excels. Short passing exchanges is not something he's very good at.
I’m on board with praise for Pogba’s performance v Leeds. I gave him a 10, although if 9.5 were an available option that’s what I would have given him (glorious chance missed early in the game).
But there is no way anyone here should be claiming Pogba > Scoles as a passer.
But there is no way anyone here should be claiming Pogba > Scoles as a passer.
He has a better final ball than Scholes. But Scholes was a better short and long passer, and could control the tempo of the game with his passing. Pogba is more two-footed though. Different kinds of players at the end of the day, Pogba is more like Gerrard in that sense.
I always love watching Pogba play. Such a classy player. I'm eagerly waiting to see Cavani, Varane and Sancho come into this team playing alongside Pogba and Bruno.
I always love watching Pogba play. Such a classy player. I'm eagerly waiting to see Cavani, Varane and Sancho come into this team playing alongside Pogba and Bruno.
This was when he was 36 and few months later he announced his retirement. Also he played just 10 mins vs Arsenal as a sub and that was a masterclass.
His passing (both short and long) was unreal, also what sets him apart from others like Pogba is, his one touch play, ability to make himself available for passes and quick decision making.
Scholes and Pogba would have been amazing together
In addition, Scholes was a master at long passes to wings to switch up play. While Pogba can play those passes, he can be quite hit and miss in accuracy of those passes whereas Scholes was inch-perfect!
This is brilliant to see.
I remember few pundits including obvious Souness refused to praise Pogba when he played well, saying "for a 100 million player you should expect that" "for a record transfer you should expect match winner, someone who wins the game on his own".
Lets see how much they will analyze the new record transfer, instead of ejaculating whenever Grealish takes a good first touch, they should set the standards "At least a goal or assist every game" like they did for Pogba.
Lets see how much they will analyze the new record transfer, instead of ejaculating whenever Grealish takes a good first touch, they should set the standards "At least a goal or assist every game" like they did for Pogba.
Yep, it's clear that Pogba is better at through balls. And Scholes is the better overall passer and better at setting the tempo (something I would kill to have in this side). Pogba is the better dribbler and Scholes the better goal scorer.
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Didnt Bruno do that same thing, pointing to Pogba's name on his shirt. Some relationship there that I haven't noticed before.
I knew he had got the ball while on the ground, but I didn't know he did that skill to do it. And look at Fred's pass to Bruno
Yeah, he posts pics with Pogba regularly on his twitter.
I knew he had got the ball while on the ground, but I didn't know he did that skill to do it. And look at Fred's pass to Bruno
Bruno had presence to take that touch, Fred just smashed it with a hope someone will get it
Pogba might have more variety in his passing, with both feet but to be good at passing involves more than the types of passes you can execute. The reading the the game, being one step ahead, consistency and the ability to give and go are things Scholes is better at than Pogba and what makes him a superior passer. As sexy as a half volley 30 yard cross field pass with your weaker foot might be, the ability to recognize that 9 times out of ten the short 3 yard give and go followed by the 15 yard chip to the wing stretches the defense more and overloads the offense more favorably is what makes Scholes one of the best ever. This is even without mentioning Scholes ability to dictate the tempo of the game with his passing, something Pogba hasn't really been able to do consistently.
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