Is Pogba getting the blame for Gavranovic running right past Kante?
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Bruno who played about 2000 more minutes than Pogba for us during the season and came on and did well in an unfamiliar position vs “world class” Pogba with “world class Pogba unlocker Kante” against an average team? Same thing alright.
Pogba has been benched by Scott Mctomminay, Fred for United at times. Whats your point?
Bruno for Utd is on another level. I don't care about France. I'm not French and I support United ffs.
If he turned up for us like he does for France we wouldn't even be having these debates would we?
We already have plenty of scapegoats.
Bruno isn't good enough, AWB is shit, McFred is worst pair in top 10 teams, Rashford is shit, Martial is lazy and should be sold.
Apart from Shaw, I dont think there is any ManUtd player who is rated by most fans, looks like there is a huge split in every thread.
Absolute lazy nonsense. First of all France should have been out of sight thanks to the positions he put his attackers in all game long, and they certainly should have had more players behind the ball at the time he lost it on the halfway line.
I have it in for people saying Bruno is shite. We need to build around Pogba instead etc. We tried to build around Pogba for 4 years and we were all over the place. He’s a good player but he’s not the player a lot of you have been saying he is since this tournament kicked off. It’s not Fred’s fault or Oles fault he’s switched off defensively or he jogs around. That’s his game for better or worse
True but we have another Midfielder who loses the ball closer to our box every game for example.
Although his isn't due to taking too much time in the ball but because he has a shite touch.
How often do you see Kante drive at the back line. Or Griezmann flick a ball on?
still leads to the same thing no matter how it occurs.
lazy biased nonsense..
Grealish finds himself on the bench for England too. Not only England’s coach that is a moron.
I see Griezmann flicks a lot but it's Pogba who releases these attackers quickly. He has played so many great passes from deeper position, he is their only reliable passer.
And the fact that France had 5 players in attack, and Kimpembe going to ground, and world hunger.
Gonna be like that until we start winning things!
Which is perfectly understandable, we can't have this player cults forming based on National team peeformances.
And Pogba has a lot of cult fans not seeing things with a clear view.
Our manager (rightly) doesn't trust Pogba in CM against any half decent sides particularly when Bruno is in the team, I don't think pairing him with a prime Makelele will change Ole's view on him.
Best for us to part ways this summer and let's hope he has no plans to leave on a free transfer.
Best for us to part ways this summer and let's hope he has no plans to leave on a free transfer.
Forever a problem but we've rarely used a system to get the best out of him IMO. He's an advanced playmaker, he's never really been used as one. Ole when he first took over used him as one and was used as a wide playmaker this season - and they both brought his most consistent and best periods of form. If we had Iniesta, would we play him deeper in midfield? Of course not, nor would he be much use as a pure #10 in a counter attacking team. Zidane also just plain wasn't a deeper midfielder, but wasn't really a pure #10 either. Pogba isn't the same class as them, but I think he needs similar requirements. He's not going to dictate the tempo of games from deep, that's not his game, and he isn't necessarily a final touch #10 like Bruno where he gets loads of goals or assists. Biggest problem for me is people just using him incorrectly, so it results in an inconsistent Pogba as you ask him to so things that aren't natural to him too often.Where do you play him then? That's a discussion that's never been had
Did say it didn't but Fred does it in more Dangerous areas.
Was shocking for it at the latter stages of the tournament.
This one was just terrible by the France team as everyone was pushed way too far up for no reason. When a player loses the ball in the opposition half ideally it shouldn't be leading to such an easy goal.
Poor by everyone. Pogbas, Kante, Kimpembe etc etc
Agree. We have very good players, but most of them play in suboptimal roles and are hounded for not looking as good as they can.
People bang on about the Pogba goal, but that touch for the second goal was class.
4 goals so far for him in the tournament and played well vs Portugal.
He gets so much more time and space at International level. It suits him.
PL midfielders don't give him an inch and he struggles badly.
PL midfielders don't give him an inch and he struggles badly.
If somebody photoshopped Pogba playing for United into France NT kit, I swear some people would be saying "look! he's so much better playing for France!".
Pogba is just being Pogba. Playing him deep means no control over midfield. Playing him higher makes him more dangerous, more effective, is safer and the team is more balanced (even more balanced than with Bruno, who is shit off the ball).
I can see us selling Pogba this summer, if there is a midfielder that suits us more than him and available for decent money. Especially with Sancho coming, I can't see a place for Pogba in the team (I liked him o the left).
Pogba is just being Pogba. Playing him deep means no control over midfield. Playing him higher makes him more dangerous, more effective, is safer and the team is more balanced (even more balanced than with Bruno, who is shit off the ball).
I can see us selling Pogba this summer, if there is a midfielder that suits us more than him and available for decent money. Especially with Sancho coming, I can't see a place for Pogba in the team (I liked him o the left).
Yeah I agree.
Bruno’s fan club get on the beach with your boy and hope he has a better season than he’s had since December. He’s been great statistically for us but I have reservations about his performance levels on a very regular basis.
Pogbas been fantastic this tournament. Keep it up Paul. We’re behind you
Sorry was watching Kante break the lines again.
Okay, if you see that. Personally I don't see it as much as you say.
That doesn't excuse what Pogba did though does it? He should be aware of what's going on. That's absolute lazy nonsense from you.
Player of the year two years running. Pogba hasn't won it once in 5 years.
Bruno is clearly better for us. Pogba seems to suit International football more.
I don't support France though so I don't care.
No way.
. From all people he is the last poster for whom i would think that would criticize player like Pogba. I thought that he is like me; skill above everything
That's true also every minor mistake is highlighted so much, its as if all other players are perfect and don't make any mistakes.
I mean the game is played at such a pace and with no time on the ball and space but people love to freeze frames to explain what should be the option taken with all the benefits of hindsight and a ultra slow-mo replays. Then the same mistake is held against them for months.
We shouldn't be in this position, should be fighting for trophies but that doesn't mean everything is shit.
Both times very lucky
Pogba set up numerous attacks that led to missed quality chances: Fact
France had half their players in attack at the time the ball was lost: Fact
The ball was lost at the halfway line: Fact
The problem is with him he’s not consistent enough scoring and assisting for a pure attacker with no defensive duties. Bruno is better and a lot more intense
Box to box isn’t happening as we’ve seen over and over as he abandons his partner or loses it in dangerous spots by overplaying
DLP would be tailor made for him if he wasn’t so languid on the ball and kept getting caught on it overthinking it.
DM nope
He’s a classy player and will probably bang in or assist the winner but his best position is the same as Bruno. We wouldn’t have had to buy Bruno if Pogba was fit and consistent enough and actually wanted to stay here. Posters on here then slamming the less skilful lads who worked their asses off to get us second because they supposedly don’t suit Pogbas game. Madness
No way.
I have no reason to make that up
Lazy complacent twats and frauds.
and he doesn’t have a best position.
It was about Pogba for French NT in this Euro.
Maguire vs Lindelof
Martial vs Rashford
Fred vs McT
DDG vs Henderson
Pogba vs Bruno
This fanbase can’t help themselves.
Martial vs Rashford
Fred vs McT
DDG vs Henderson
Pogba vs Bruno
This fanbase can’t help themselves.
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