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Formula is simple. Play him left in 433 with top class dmc and Bruno as second mc. Too attacking? Maybe. But i would do it
Then Ole better do it, because there's not much time left for key decisions to be made now, that will have positive or negative consequences in next 2-3 years... and I doubt any manager in a big club would survive that long with constant bouncing between CL & EL.
 

@JPRouve More free, from the man himself ;)


He isn't talking about actual freedom but freedom to be in the box which is true for all France midfielders, he also added that he doesn't do it often because it's not needed. It's not something that is limited to Pogba and why he isn't all that free because he can only go forward when the others don't.
 
I find with Pogba it is best to ignore everything he and his agent says because they either court headlines, or he (not his agent) is misquoted to fit a dramatic narrative. Only ever interested me what he did on the field.

With regards to his contract, I think it is time to play hardball. We definitely shouldn't be losing him on a free, and anyone who says he isn't a good player is nuts. We should be offering him a 4+1 deal on generous terms and tying him down, at the very least agreeing to let him go for a reasonable fee if he wants to leave. If he and his agent don't agree to that, and are determined to leave on a free, we should heavily limit his game time next season before a world cup year. It's the only leverage we have.

I still rate him as a player and a person. but the influence of his agent remains toxic.
 
I find with Pogba it is best to ignore everything he and his agent says because they either court headlines, or he (not his agent) is misquoted to fit a dramatic narrative. Only ever interested me what he did on the field.

With regards to his contract, I think it is time to play hardball. We definitely shouldn't be losing him on a free, and anyone who says he isn't a good player is nuts. We should be offering him a 4+1 deal on generous terms and tying him down, at the very least agreeing to let him go for a reasonable fee if he wants to leave. If he and his agent don't agree to that, and are determined to leave on a free, we should heavily limit his game time next season before a world cup year. It's the only leverage we have.

I still rate him as a player and a person. but the influence of his agent remains toxic.

When it comes to Raiola everything is overstated. Raiola doesn't do anything special, Barnett runs his mouth fairly regularly last month he was telling the world that he had a great relationship with Real Madrid(he was talking about Camavinga) ,Zahavi is a known difficult negotiator who is currently openly talking about Lewandowski's plan to play in Spain and then the US
 
Brilliant ball by Pogba to Lucas Hernandez in the lead up to France's opener against Germany. They can't live with him right now
 
That ball was insane. At the risk of being cynical - he looks much more energetic for France than he does for us.
 
It's clear as day as per that Pogba is a number 8. Left side or right doesn't matter.

Buy a DM and play Bruno and Pogba as 8s. Atleast in the games versus below the top 6. It will tear the team's apart
 
That ball was insane. At the risk of being cynical - he looks much more energetic for France than he does for us.
He does, but he seems to be allowed to roam a bit more as well. He's making runs into the box and that knowing kante has him covered
 
In my opinion, his best stuff here was next to Herrera who, like Kanté, could seemingly cover the midfield alone defensively. He just excels with a partner who can carry that load; taking the shackles off him as a result.
 
No secret that Pogba is a tricky player to fit into your side but France obviously do it better than we do, so no surprise if he performs better for them. I wouldn't put it down to his attitude/effort being different or anything.

I mean who wouldn't look better alongside Kante rather than Fred?
 
He does, but he seems to be allowed to roam a bit more as well. He's making runs into the box and that knowing kante has him covered

A bit disenegious considering Kanye himself has been making those runs forward as well.

France just know how to use him and it's not purley because of Kante.

Sure Pogba was great in the world cup. Even in the final when Kante had a stinker.

Our issue is we don't have a DM and the two we play try do a job but aren't great at it even though there is two.

The ideal for us is 433 with a DM. Atleast versus the teams below the top 6.

Maybe against the top 6 we can go a bit more defensive
 
Basically you need a super human worker in midfield to make it work. France have Kante who is probably better than McFred on his own.
 
No secret that Pogba is a tricky player to fit into your side but France obviously do it better than we do, so no surprise if he performs better for them. I wouldn't put it down to his attitude/effort being different or anything.

I mean who wouldn't look better alongside Kante rather than Fred?
Is he? Only us failed to do it. France and Juve never had an issue.

Could just be an us problem. We aren't the best run club.

The sample size isn't definitive enough to say either way imo

Agreed in the Fred points. Our midfield options are simply no where near good enough
 
Is he? Only us failed to do it. France and Juve never had an issue.

Could just be an us problem. We aren't the best run club.

The sample size isn't definitive enough to say either way imo

Juve got the best out of him in a 5-3-2, while (up to now at least) France have used the likes of Matuidi/Sissoko as auxiliary midfielders along with Kante in their 4-2-3-1. In neither situation would I say it was a case of easily slotting Pogba in to a cookie-cutter formation.
 
No secret that Pogba is a tricky player to fit into your side but France obviously do it better than we do, so no surprise if he performs better for them. I wouldn't put it down to his attitude/effort being different or anything.

I mean who wouldn't look better alongside Kante rather than Fred?

Disagree. They’re playing a pretty basic 433. One person is always left at the deepest, there was a point near the beginning of the game where France broke, Kante and Rabiot went forward and Pogba wasn’t even in the picture because he stayed back.

I’m not sure Bruno is an 8, as he would have to be so disciplined to make it work, I know other watchers of Sporting said he has played there. He’s got the work rate though.


Basically you need a super human worker in midfield to make it work. France have Kante who is probably better than McFred on his own.

Only because he doesn’t sit as much like you would expect in a 433. Kante presses up higher than Pogba and Rabiot, but has the legs to get back. I would imagine Ndidi could do it, but he sits more for Leicester.
 
Easily the best player on the park, not even close and the commentators are finding any chance to compliment Kante. Why does football media hate him so much?
 
I get the feel McCoist is very reluctant to acknowledge how well he's playing! Will be interesting to see what Keane says who is normally a big critict!
 
You wonder what it takes so he plays like that for us

Come on, it's not like he's never performed for united to this level he's showing at the moment for France. It's disengenous to suggest other wise when they're many such performances for united to draw from as examples.
 
Next level today. Kroos looks like a child.

Everything good went through him. You cant take the ball off him
 
He does the same stuff for us very often but in a worse team, so most of our agenda-driven fans don't notice.
 
An astonishing array of world class talent surrounding him.
OR just a single, solitary, actual DM next to him.

Just admit it people. It’s so obvious. The only thing letting him play like this for France is Kante next to him.

And he’s not even been that good, he plays this level for us quite often, we would see it most weeks if we had a decent DM (or an actual DM other than a lifeless Matic.)
 
He does the same stuff for us very often but in a worse team, so most of our agenda-driven fans don't notice.
THIS. Painfully obvious.

Just partner him with a decent DM with legs and watch him do this every week.

The agendas are embarrassing.
 
People were suggesting we sack him off and play McFred and we will improve :lol:

I don't know how many times I have to say it, but a DM is as big if not a bigger priority than a RW
 
There is so much pace in this French team. PP does look like he has more freedom is that strategy or pace?
 
Honestly they probably never will.

They notice, they just adjust their expectations just out of reach no matter what he does.

He plays as well or better than this for us regularly. If he did the exact same as he has in this match every game (where he has been the best player on the park) some fans would just be waiting to criticise him for not scoring from the corner.
 
A quality DM would help. But it's not like France are just playing the way we do except with Kante instead of Fred. They also have Rabiot playing in a different role than Bruno typically does for us.
 
Playing well.

He started the season poorly, but was clearly nowhere near match fit, carrying excess weight which was unlike him, but he had a strong second half of the season,
 
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