AltiUn
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New contract might be on the cards.
New contract might be on the cards.
New contract might be on the cards.
You do realize that management techniques are applicable across many fields, right? For example, if you're a drug-kingpin, and there's this talented but dangerous uppity low-level dealer who thinks he should be in charge of more than he is, and you test his loyalty out by giving more product to someone who everyone knows is inferior to him and he flips out, then you know where his priorities lie.
If you can't grasp that, don't worry about it.
@Solius, keep in mind, this is exactly the type of cringey stuff that you have to realize isn't nou_camp vacillating and 'avoiding'. There's no way anyone can consistenly respond to non-sequiturs/strawmen like this. I gave the iniesta thing as an example of specifically how like nou_camp can't possibly respond and someone just takes it literally and comes in with maximum derpage thinking I was arguing that, too. Totally understand moderating isn't easy. Just saying that across the past few pages, nou_camp was being very consistent and not avoiding/ignoring. I understand I may not have seen long-term abusive behavior on his/her part.
That was one of the more ridiculous yellows I’ve seen recently. Only made worse by Roma players failing to drag him to the ground at every opportunity without any punishment.He is banned for the final if he gets a yellow in the next game no?
If that's the case he shouldn't even play. Not worth the risk! Too valuable
I wonder does Nou Camp go into Shaws thread every games and shits on him for being terrible in almost every other season?
Like Pogba he is class now so I hope you have the same energy for him? I expect not.
Maybe just maybe we just needed a better team like everyone had been saying for years.
Pogba may have been inconsistent but he was always up there with a few others as the best of a bad bunch.
And he isn't inconsistent now so the point is moot.
That was one of the more ridiculous yellows I’ve seen recently. Only made worse by Roma players failing to drag him to the ground at every opportunity without any punishment.
I think he has to produce these kind of performances for a longer period of time before he sheds that tag.
For various reasons he hasn't given us a full season of the type of stuff he's been doing over the last month or so.
Until he does I think it's fair enough to question his consistency.
I think he has to produce these kind of performances for a longer period of time before he sheds that tag.
For various reasons he hasn't given us a full season of the type of stuff he's been doing over the last month or so.
Until he does I think it's fair enough to question his consistency.
What? So in your opinion Sir Alex happily threw away title winning points to set a test and prove a point?For people who still don't understand, SAF had him pegged from the get go. The Rafael/Park-in-midfield game for example was a very specific test for narcissistic traits, and he failed it.
That was one of the more ridiculous yellows I’ve seen recently. Only made worse by Roma players failing to drag him to the ground at every opportunity without any punishment.
What? So in your opinion Sir Alex happily threw away title winning points to set a test and prove a point?
This is stupid though, no player bar Messi/Ronaldo in the past puts up world class performances like last night every game. Just because his next game might not be at that level doesn’t mean he’s “inconsistent”. Inconsistency would be dropping a stinker in between ever great performance.
This is the Pogba we were all hoping we would be seeing consistently when he first signed, but we've only seen this in a minority of matches during his United career. I hope that this player we see now, will be what we get for the next few games, and subsequently, for the next few seasons if he signs a new contract. My concern is that he really wants to go to Madrid, and with Riola, a new contract will be a big increase on his current salary, which the club would not be able to afford. I hope that they come to some arrangement which is acceptable to both parties.
A few months ago I desperately wanted Pogba to go, but this is pretty much the player I've been waiting a few seasons to see, so I hope sanity prevails, and we can get another three or four years out of him.
I've had this discussion before, some of you guys are so literal. When I say a full season I don't mean literally every single game. I'm talking about the consistency level we've seen from City and Liverpool players over the last few years.
Yeah that's a legitimate worry.
But if it happens we cash in and buy a replacement. Just hope it doesn't drag on all summer.
This is the Pogba we were all hoping we would be seeing consistently when he first signed, but we've only seen this in a minority of matches during his United career. I hope that this player we see now, will be what we get for the next few games, and subsequently, for the next few seasons if he signs a new contract. My concern is that he really wants to go to Madrid, and with Riola, a new contract will be a big increase on his current salary, which the club would not be able to afford. I hope that they come to some arrangement which is acceptable to both parties.
A few months ago I desperately wanted Pogba to go, but this is pretty much the player I've been waiting a few seasons to see, so I hope sanity prevails, and we can get another three or four years out of him.
I apologise for the dumb post and I regret that you can't bring yourself to respond to it. Maybe I'm just a stupid twat who doesn't understand the intricacies of football, or maybe I'm just light-headed from fasting.This is almost too dumb to respond to. 'Member the time he played Gibson against Bayern? 'Member the eight-defenders game?
Nice bit of mental gymnastics to somehow reach up your bum and pull that 'opinion' all the way down through everything.
the reason I pulled that "opinion" out my arse is because that's exactly how the bolded part reads.For people who still don't understand, SAF had him pegged from the get go. The Rafael/Park-in-midfield game for example was a very specific test for narcissistic traits, and he failed it.
I apologise for the dumb post and I regret that you can't bring yourself to respond to it. Maybe I'm just a stupid twat who doesn't understand the intricacies of football, or maybe I'm just light-headed from fasting.
Your post said
the reason I pulled that "opinion" out my arse is because that's exactly how the bolded part reads.
All I asked was whether sir Alex deliberately threw away points to set a specific test for someone who in your own words "sir Alex knew wouldn't sign anyway".
I don't know why you had to mention Darron Gibson in a Munich game, maybe it's another thing my simple little mind doesn't understand.
New contract might be on the cards.
I hope Ole can find a way to play Pogba in a more advanced role without moving Rashford to the right. If we keep on playing this formation, with Pogba on the left, I actually struggle to see how we can fit Rashford into the team at all, when Greenwood, in my opinion, has proven to be more effective on the right. If gives us some great rotational options though, and even better if we sign Sancho as well. As you say, we can use Pogba as a nr. 10 in some matches and give Fernandes a rest once in a while, or maybe try a new formation.To be fair to Pogba he’s nearly always thrived here in a more advanced role. When he was the most attacking midfielder under Jose his goal involvements were really good. Same when Ole came in and basically played him as a 10. The problems only really started when he fell out with Jose or when he was given major defensive duties before and after Bruno. I thought his best position was Bruno’s spot and he wouldn’t win it back so it was probably best he left but now I think he should be given rashfords spot on the left in any game Cavani can play in and he’s also a very strong rotational possibility with Bruno. That’s basically all the creativity we need. Pogba Bruno and Greenwood/Rash/James feeding Cavani and we've got more than enough to win most matches as overly simple as that sounds.
No doubt he had a bad spell, but Bruno this year alone performed to the standard needed in about half his games too. Pogba also played with Pereira, Lingard and whonot at the beginning which was very hard to pull the team up, when we were not backed in the transfer window. His lengthy injuries and covid obviously mean that media have a firepower and even more bash him like if he played and underperformed. Some of the British media are the shittest in the world really and it's easy to get carried away with what they repeat week after week tryna ride their agenda from the beginning. Pure jealousy, money spend, and Manchester United success in the past means they will try their best to squeez a bad line so people talk about it. Pogba no doubt didn't have significantly more worse games than Rashford either tbh.pogbas inconsistence is a bit of a media story as many pundits wanted him to fail from the beginning alone because of the price tag. in fact i think he was good to superb most times he played for us till now. he was unlucky with injuries/covid and his bad games came when he wasnt fully fit which is normal for a physical player like him. he would be a corner stone of a title winning team - really hope he signs a new deal
Please!!Express quoting The Athletic in a claim that Pogba is ready to sign a new contract.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...act-u-turn-Mino-Raiola-Europa-League-Roma-win
I'd love for him to stay here but I have 0% trust in him not being a drama queen again if the squad does not develop as hoped
Good point. We'd have the advantage whether he wants to stay or leave in the future if we can get him to extendThen feck it and sell him for 90 mil. Still better than letting him go with another free transfer to Juventus.
A good and fair comment from Raiola. Basically add to the squad sufficiently and show some ambition and he will stay, if not he will go.
Very Fair and it's exactly what I'd do in his position. No reason to stay if the club have another lackluster summer. We need quality additions. It's a very reasonable stance.
If we didn't have such a poor summer last year he probably would have signed that new contract by now. The problem for our players is they can't trust that we will be ambitious.
It has to happen for them to believe it. That's the difference between us and other clubs.
A summer of Rice and Sancho and he stays as I have always said imo. Basically he wants what's best for the team and himself.