[elnorte]

This is a nightmare. Pogba did OK when he came on but there's been next to nothing like that in terms of consistency these last few years.

In fact maybe tonight was close to as good as he's ever been which again is at times impressive but hardly outstanding.

He put in some effort this evening and had a clear ulterior motive for doing so but unfortunately it'll once again be enough to convince some that he deserves his place in the team.

 

[El-Manos]

Never been annoyed before at a United player for playing well. Of course it had to be him who almost inspired a comeback.

 

[TsuWave]

He was one of the best when coming on, but definitely the circus before game affected the team selection, and tactic going in this game. So I still blame him

Raiola gave that interview a week ago. Besides, if an agent speaking out gets these lot, manager included, rattled. Then we have far bigger problems to solve

 

[Godfather]

It says we care more about winning games than politics. Well, almost. We've played many players before that have said publicly and privately they wanted to play elsewhere. We cared more about winning games than posturing then.

We gave one the armband after it

 

[SuperiorXI]

Questionable priorities if you think about it

No, I've thought about it already before the game and my mind hasn't changed. I put the club and its reputation above any player and winning the odd game.

 

[Red Devil 26]

Should have come on at HT for McTominay. His ball retention and ability to work the ball in to good areas in the final third is far better than what our deeper CM's are capable of. Leaving it till 60 mins when we're 2-0 down was poor from Ole.

 

[Stadjer]

Questionable priorities if you think about it

Pogba out shouters usually say things like 'Pogba supporters support Pogba and not the club. Support the club not Pogba and leave with him when he leaves'

Pogba out shouters also dont want Pogba to do well for Manchester United and feel sick when he does....

It is very strange.

 

[RedTiger]

"Heeeeey Zinedine......... Did you see me out there?"

Looks like he cares now for the first time in 2 years.

Yet he's surpassed his Juve stats in less games for us while not giving a shit.

 

[Ludens the Red]

No, we're having a debate about whether or not he saved Joses job a few times which is what I said
Secondly that today it not the most we have seem him try, quite clearly (which is what you said)

Anyway I won't respond again, just pointing out you were wrong

Yuh I was wrong you were right. One half of football against Newcastle where he played out of position and managed not to throw a strop equates to games Pogba kept Mourinho in the job.

 

[Red00012]

Ole should have selected Pogba to be interviewed after the game

 

[Brwned]

No, I've thought about it already before the game and my mind hasn't changed. I put the club and its reputation above any player and winning the odd game.

Sure, one game. But this is a game that helps determine that club's reputation. Playing Pogba and going through would have been a less embarrassing outcome, all things considered. Ole clearly doesn't share such a black and white view and none of our previous managers ever did either. We very clearly bowed down to player power multiple times because that was what was required, taking a position based on some notion of honour would be an abuse of the position. Yes they were disciplined and authority was established but not to the detriment of the team. This was clearly to the detriment of the team. We put him on the pitch because we knew that. We just judged it wrong.

 

[horsechoker]

Pogba out shouters usually say things like 'Pogba supporters support Pogba and not the club. Support the club not Pogba and leave with him when he leaves'

Pogba out shouters also dont want Pogba to do well for Manchester United and feel sick when he does....

It is very strange.

It's called having an agenda.

Pogba is paid by the club handsomely to play football and that's what he should do with all his effort until he leaves. He's a professional.

If he is shit we criticism him and if he's good we praise him.

If people feel sick watching Pogba do well for United then they need to reflect on whether they support the team or not.

 

[Idxomer]

One day people will realize the main problem is our managers and the structure at the club that let players like Pogba and many before him seen as a failure.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Too good to be here

Nah mate, it’s a bunch of Caf keyboard warriors wet dreams to play alongside McAverage, the ghost of Matic & Harry ‘Worlds most expensive CB’ Maguire so you’ll get stick for this.

 

[2cents]

Quite typical that despite an improved performance he still came very close to gifting them a fourth with that brainless no-look hook over his shoulder outside our box.

 

[Born2Lose]

Usually and fairly I think give this guy pelters. Played well when he came on and showed his class, but it's once in an ice age as usual and the fact that this Brand footballer is at the club says everything about what a mess Woodward has turned us into.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Sure, one game. But this is a game that helps determine that club's reputation. Playing Pogba and going through would have been a less embarrassing outcome, all things considered. Ole clearly doesn't share such a black and white view and none of our previous managers ever did either. Yes they were disciplined and authority was established but not to the detriment of the team. This was clearly to the detriment of the team. We put him on the pitch because we knew that. We just judged it wrong.

I respect your opinion but sorry I don't agree.

 

[Carlsen19]

Quite typical that despite an improved performance he still came very close to gifting them a fourth with that brainless no-look hook over his shoulder outside our box.

Just came to post this. It was a nice cameo but he does this at least once a game it’s ridiculous.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Whether people like him or not, he was streets ahead any other player when he was introduced tonight.

 

[simplyared]

Lost interest in the player. Sooner we get rid the better!

 

[RooneyLegend]

If he faces the media now and say Raiola is a shit bag and I didn’t tell him to say that sh*t and I want to stay here and be successful he could of hold his head high tonight as he came on was a clsss above the rest of the team.

unfortunately he wont....

Why would he? This club is going nowhere and that has been the case for a very long time now. Not the place for high quality players, it's that simple.

 

[sammsky1]

Some very good moments in his cameo in which he applied himself with high intensity and motivation, and pivotal for both our goals.
Who knows what that means.

 

[Devil may care]

Showed quality on the ball We'd lacked deep all game, but it doesn't matter at this point, it's arrivederci in January.

 

[united_99]

Come on Juventus, come on PSG! Did you see this? He always plays so well. Please, please buy him in January. We will let you pay in 10 instalments if you want!

 

[mancan92]

Lads honestly, are we seriously having a debate about whether Pogba gave or didn’t give his all under Mourinho?

They are right pogba literally saved his Job for 2 months.

 

[Zlatan Ibrahomovic]

Best player on the field when he came on, per usual.

 

[ghaliboy]

Important cameo in the scheme of things. Wasn't overly good wasn't overly bad but what came off and what the tangibles were actually has a huge impact on what will happen to him over the next 6 months.

 

[giggs-beckham]

Never been annoyed before at a United player for playing well. Of course it had to be him who almost inspired a comeback.

Sounds like a thing that samski bloke would castigate people for saying when we win under ole.

 

[Bwuk]

Should of started tonight. Ridiculous to play Matic/McTominay ahead of him.

 

[I'm David Moyes damnit]

Admittedly he was very good when he came on, but at the same time, I don’t think he should’ve been brought on in the first place, purely out of principle.

Plus, his impact tonight is completely negated by the comments made by his agent the night prior, which may well have deeply impacted the moral of the squad. That’s one possible explanation for why a number of players seemed so zoned out and at sixes and sevens initially.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

It would be funny if he plays now fantastic in nearly every match

 

[Heinzesight]

Played alright when he came on but he shouldn’t have even been on the bench. Disgusted to see his name on the teamsheet.

 

[Bwuk]

Admittedly he was very good when he came on, but at the same time, I don’t think he should’ve been brought on in the first place, purely out of principle.

Plus, his impact tonight is completely negated by the comments made by his agent the night prior, which may well have deeply impacted the moral of the squad. That’s one possible explanation for why a number of players seemed so zoned out and at sixes and sevens initially.

If the players are that affected by one of their team mates agents making comments in a paper that has nothing to do with them, then I suggest they aren't mentally tough enough to play for Manchester United.

 

[Yagami]

I don't agree with those saying he should play no part in the squad now. Whilst here and fit, he should be making the match day squad everytime as he's one of our best players. Even if he's not starting he can be a game changer off the bench.

Until he leaves, we should use him as it benefits us.

Do people remember Scholes pulling a Tevez before Tevez by refusing to play a league cup game against Arsenal in 2001 for Sir Alex? We quickly forgave and forgot because he was an incredible player. We should do the same here and part ways when the time comes.

 

[VivaObertan]

If the players are that affected by one of their team mates agents making comments in a paper that has nothing to do with them, then I suggest they aren't mentally tough enough to play for Manchester United.

Don't really agree with this - there's enough hysteria that surrounds United even when we're winning and the whole Raiola piece coming out yesterday has potentially influenced our squad selection and also impacted our preparation for the game. Can see how these scenarios can impact a player.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

You all missed the no look pass to nearly put a Leipzig player through, then? Classic Pogba.

 

[thepolice123]

Even an office worker needs to serve a notice period if he is resigning, he will continue with his work until the company finds a replacement. What so fecking hard to understand about this? Pogba not going to get dropped because he wants to leave, if he is playing good why shouldn’t we continue using him? He is still getting paid ffs. So many people here are out of touch with reality.

 

[I'm David Moyes damnit]

If the players are that affected by one of their team mates agents making comments in a paper that has nothing to do with them, then I suggest they aren't mentally tough enough to play for Manchester United.

If these comments were made a few days before the match then I’d agree, but when it’s on the eve of the biggest match of the season and from one of your most high-profile teammates, you’d expect Raiola’s comments to cause at least some disharmony and even division within the dressing room.

I wouldn’t expect this to cause issues for an entire match, but would wage that justifiable anger at one of your teammates selfishness so close to a big match wouldn’t leave the team (or at least some of the players) at peak levels of concentration right from kickoff.

Once the match fully gets going then the adrenaline should be enough to put aside any off the on pitch shenanigans, but by that time we were already 1-0 down.

Plus it clearly is about the players to some extent, seeing as Raiola’s repeated agitations to get his client a move is obviously an implication that Pogba is too good for the club, and Pogba refusing to distance himself from these remarks validates that he sees things this way too.

As a player, I’d be even more pissed off if the teammate agitating for the move at such an inappropriate time had been largely dogshit for the 4+ years he’d been at the club.

Would be especially curious to know how Bruno, being by far our biggest leader despite not having the captaincy, reacted when he heard Raiola’s comments. I’m betting he had words with Pogba, or at least gave him the cold shoulder.

 

[thepolice123]

If these comments were made a few days before the match then I’d agree, but when it’s on the eve of the biggest match of the season and from one of your most high-profile teammates, you’d expect Raiola’s comments to cause at least some disharmony and even division within the dressing room.

I wouldn’t expect this to cause issues for an entire match, but would wage that justifiable anger at one of your teammates selfishness so close to a big match wouldn’t leave the team (or at least some of the players) at peak levels of concentration right from kickoff.

Once the match fully gets going then the adrenaline should be enough to put aside any off the on pitch shenanigans, but by that time we were already 1-0 down.

Plus it clearly is about the players to some extent, seeing as Raiola’s repeated agitations to get his client a move is obviously an implication that Pogba is too good for the club, and Pogba refusing to distance himself from these remarks validates that he sees things this way too.

As a player, I’d be even more pissed off if the teammate agitating for the move at such an inappropriate time had been largely dogshit for the 4+ years he’d been at the club.

Would be especially curious to know how Bruno, being by far our biggest leader despite not having the captaincy, reacted when he heard Raiola’s comments. I’m betting he had words with Pogba, or at least gave him the cold shoulder.

Doesn’t matter if its few days or few minutes before the match. If you are a world class professional you do the job regardless. They are not going to get more “mentally prepared” or let the news “sink in” with that additional few days. Even fans like ourselves aren’t even surprised by it. The goals we conceded were high preventable and down to basic schoolboy errors. Its entirely down to the team.

Players play with teammates who want to leave the club or get thrown curveballs prior a big match all the time. We had so many instances of infighting and controversies within the club before a match throughout the years and players still go out and perform.

Comments like this are why the modern footballer are so entitled and protected. I mean how perfect do you want things to be?

 

[jem]

Best player on the field when he came on, per usual.

How is that even remotely the case?