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Yup.

Wijnaldum, a key player for Liverpool, hasn't signed a contract and most likely will leave on a free. Guess what, Liverpool don't really care and will still start him every game because right now they don't bother about long term this, or building for the future that. Klopp wants to win as much as he can, so he's making use of the talent at his disposal.

I want us to do the same for our players. Some fans would love to ship Pogba, Martial, Matic, and some others out ASAP, but I think it's better to realize we have quite a few good players and try and use them to enhance our immediate prospects, before their inevitable departure.

You think putting Gini Wijnaldum in the same basket as Pogba, Martial and Nemanja Matic in terms of CURRENT IMPACT.....makes sense?
 
Did VDB's agent ever come out with the quotes Raiola has tonight? It's one thing questioning playing time and another saying the player is leaving

My point is that agents have been known to go public if they feel their players aren't being used correctly. That's part and parcel of the job. That being said, we all know Raiola is a cnut and is unprofessional with how he deals with certain situations.
 
What are the teams that could be in for him in january?
Im thinking just PSG and Inter maybe. Anyone else?
Will be interesting to see what kind of offers we might receive.
 
What did Mourinho do? He started singling out Pogba more and more, until that costed him his job, since Pogba was one of the leaders in the dressing room and the team became alienated.

Are we able to comment without being immature then? Great stuff.

Regards Jose, Pogba was one of our best players in that period.
 
If he is not an automatic starter for us then why would a top club want him, I cannot wait to see the amount of money offered
 
If the quotes from Riola are true Pogba can't play tomorrow night.

Even if Pogba had no idea Raiola was going to make it public?

Maybe Pogba said to Raiola he's unhappy at United. Think we've known that for a while. Players speak to their agent if they're not happy.

What I can't imagine him doing is asking Raiola to make it public.
 
What are you showing me exactly?
Maybe I should show you this to further mess up your thinking process?



Feck the Sun, but this is just used to prove a point in this conversation. I'd like to highlight this comment from Reddit:

It's definitely Pogba. 30 miles from Manchester – Liverpool. it's not LFC 'cause we definitely not playing them to bring Mourinho happy. So it's Everton.

look at January 1, 2018. Away win 2-0 (Pogba made 2 assists).

January 18. Sun posted about new Rolls-Royce

Now pay attention to what Mourinho says at the end, when he started laughing.
 
Maybe I should show you this to further mess up your thinking process?



Feck the Sun, but this is just used to prove a point in this conversation. I'd like to highlight this comment from Reddit:


Now pay attention to what Mourinho says at the end, when he started laughing.


I just want to know what point you're trying to actually make?
 
Its disrespectful to United and unprofessional but whats new? Pogba/Raiola have been acting the maggot for years now despite being underwhelming on the pitch.
I actually feel a bit for Pogba supporters - Theyve been dancing merrily behind the pied piper for years fending off the Pogba critics and find it hard to accept the reality. Like some guy whos girl has been cheating on him all over but clinging on in the hope it was false and there will be a miracle change.
The alternative reality of Dougal in father Ted springs to mind
 
Reading this, it feels like Ole threw Pogs under the bus a bit at the start of the season.

No preseason, fresh from COVID, and he's straight into the starting lineup. And when he played badly, Ole didn't really come out to defend him (to my knowledge). Now it seems like the fanbase has given up on him, when the situation could have been easily explained.

So just believe Pogba?

Hes been a fraud for ages. Not just the last few weeks.
 
Difficult to say the fee we would get for him. Maybe a player swap of some sort is what will happen? Valverde anyone?
 
What about Van de Beek's agent?

Fact is, whether right or wrong, ultimately agents want the best for their players and will make sure their voice is heard if they feel their player isn't being used correctly.

Absolute Bull shit.

Pogba is a prick and so is his agent who in fact is the biggest prick of them all.

feck off to the pair of them.
 
Even if Pogba had no idea Raiola was going to make it public?

Maybe Pogba said to Raiola he's unhappy at United. Think we've known that for a while. Players speak to their agent if they're not happy.

What I can't imagine him doing is asking Raiola to make it public.

I'm a big pogba fan. I want him to succeed at the club. But there has been many occasions now of this, Pogba could have stopped this a couple of years ago and told Riola not to talk about him in public.

Coupled with Pogba's own comments on numerous occasions when on international duty, it really is time the club take a stance and restore authority.

If not, it's a green light for any other player to disrespect the club and manager when they feel like it too.
 
I'm a big pogba fan. I want him to succeed at the club. But there has been many occasions now of this, Pogba could have stopped this a couple of years ago and told Riola not to talk about him in public.

Coupled with Pogba's own comments on numerous occasions when on international duty, it really is time the club take a stance and restore authority.

If not, it's a green light for any other player to disrespect the club and manager when they feel like it too.

Exactly, he has all the skills and quality to succeed but his attitude and this sort of behaviour lets him down. He just needs to leave now.
 
You were doing so well without the emoji's.

Wouldn't it have been best to explain through typing instead of videos?
I don't have the patience to keep explaining the same thing over and over again.

Tried to do it in the Rashford thread and one guy put me on the ignore list, because I wasn't letting him run away with his anti-Rashford agenda. But that was so exhausting, I had to repeat my arguments more than 5 times.

I know from your posting history that nothing gets to you when it comes to Pogba. So a bit of cynical and more troll-worthy comments from my part were perfectly valid, at least in my eyes.

If you truly don't get my overall point, I feel sad for you, because your obsession with defending an individual player is unhealthy.
 
I'm a big pogba fan. I want him to succeed at the club. But there has been many occasions now of this, Pogba could have stopped this a couple of years ago and told Riola not to talk about him in public.

Coupled with Pogba's own comments on numerous occasions when on international duty, it really is time the club take a stance and restore authority.

If not, it's a green light for any other player to disrespect the club and manager when they feel like it too.

Fair enough.

I think we should sell in the summer, as I personally believe it'll be best for both parties.

I do think Raiola is a troublemaker but I get what you're saying about Pogba possibly doing more to stop that from happening.

That being said, until we get to the summer, where we may potentially sell him, he's our player and should really be used. No point paying him and not using him, especially if he's fit.
 
Bruno's come in and in less than a year completely blown Pogba out of the water.

He performs much better and more consistantly. He's more concerned about the team and not what hair style he'll have next game. He doesn't perform stupid S club 7 dance routines after 1 goal in every 20 game.

Brunos everything we wanted Pogba to be and more. If we can get £50m or even a top level swap this January, take it and run. Good riddance.
 
I don't have the patience to keep explaining the same thing over and over again.

Tried to do it in the Rashford thread and one guy put me on the ignore list, because I wasn't letting him run away with his anti-Rashford agenda. But that was so exhausting, I had to repeat my arguments more than 5 times.

I know from your posting history that nothing gets to you when it comes to Pogba. So a bit of cynical and more troll-worthy comments from my part were perfectly valid, at least in my eyes.

If you truly don't get my overall point, I feel sad for you, because your obsession with defending an individual player is unhealthy.

Said something similar an hour back and you're still replying.

Glad to have kept you so entertained.

Have a good evening!
 
Fair enough.

I think we should sell in the summer, as I personally believe it'll be best for both parties.

I do think Raiola is a troublemaker but I get what you're saying about Pogba possibly doing more to stop that from happening.

That being said, until we get to the summer, where we may potentially sell him, he's our player and should really be used. No point paying him and not using him, especially if he's fit.
Raiola wants him sold as soon as possible, talking about the next transfer window, not the summer.
 
Threatening? I'm just moaning, for fecks sake. Obviously this shite bothers me so I'm not happy, just like the majority of United fans on the Caf and around the world.

Threatening, moaning - whatever!

I'm looking forward to my team playing tomorrow. Couldn't care less about anything else.
 
Why not?
I mean we literally all knew he was gone for months.
He is a professional. Tomorrow is a must win game. If he is the best option to play and he might be, he definitely should play.

This is nothing new. Pogba almost said it all himself and has been saying it for a long long time, most recently 2 months ago.
Exactly. I find all those reactions really weird. This isn't anything new right ?
 
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