Was probably asked and rightly said the conversation is beyond him atm.
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He's said the right things to be honest. Its encouraging that by his own admission, he has to go back to basics and build his game up with consistency.
Can only help Fred and anyone else joining helps him a bit more. But he's on his last legs as far as chances go for us. If he doesn't perform this season there isn't really much of an excuse.
Can only help Fred and anyone else joining helps him a bit more. But he's on his last legs as far as chances go for us. If he doesn't perform this season there isn't really much of an excuse.
I desperately want him to succeed. He has so many haters and is judged by ridiculous standards.
To be fair he was for a good chunk in a defensive role this past season due to squad limitations. He had to play box-to-box which clearly isn’t his optimal position. 4231 with him and Matic anchoring with Lingard or someone else ahead of them so yea, it was difficult for him to push up with his defensive responsibility.
If he’s freed up and allowed to play further up the pitch this upcoming season (hoping that’s what Fred will allow), then yes he’ll be judged on his goals/assists. In all honesty he’s completely off the mark with his comparisons. Kante is a DM & Iniesta is a playmaking CM who links up build up plays up the entirety of the pitch something which Pogba isn’t capable of doing. Pogba doesn’t have the awareness to make quick passes in succession like him and rather holds on the ball longer trying to beat his man. Look at him at Juvé and the odd times this season where he was played ahead, he’s not Iniesta in that sense and his game is to make runs with or without the ball to cause havoc which all in all comes down from scoring or assisting.
...don’t know why Paul is making such comments. He’s just setting himself to be speculated upon and for others to misinterpret/twist his words - rather disappointing. And quite frankly he needs to smarten up. If there’s one thing he needs to fix it’s his fragile mentality and he shouldn’t be so weak in letting his guard down so easily and often. You can see it on the pitch when things aren’t going his or the team’s way and similarly when he talks publicly.
It's a good question because Pogba by his own admission admits he isn't a DM like Kante, so what should Pogba be judged on?
Aren’t those old quotes
Complete lack of self awareness from Pogba. Iniesta and Kante are praised because they do their jobs as well as anyone else. Pogba does not do his job anywhere near as well as he could. That's the difference.
Interesting he didn't compare his goals and assists to KDB, Silva, SMS.
Interesting he didn't compare his goals and assists to KDB, Silva, SMS.
I'm starting to come to the awful realisation that he's just not as good as I thought he'd be. Regardless of his fitness or attitude or what position he's in.
Is he just a good but not great midfielder?
Is he just a good but not great midfielder?
Maybe we will see at his next club
I don't think he's here for the long haul so we may not have to wait long.
If media are to be believed (most of them hate him for whatever reasons), he's very close to losing his starting spot for France which would be a huge blow for his ego.
The quote about Messi
, certain special players are afforded certain freedom because they deliver on a regular basis. Messi wasn't given that from the go, he had to earn by scoring over and over again. Pogba is seriously deluded
The quote about Messi
, certain special players are afforded certain freedom because they deliver on a regular basis. Messi wasn't given that from the go, he had to earn by scoring over and over again. Pogba is seriously deludedHope he shuts the haters down with his performances in the WC and next season.
Cringe worthy those quotes, thinking he is better than he really is by the looks of it. Messi? 
I hate all this talk about him leaving. It's as if some can't wait for it to happen.
Cringe quotes mind you.
Cringe quotes mind you.
The quotes on the last page where he admits he needs to improve and be more consistent and the quotes on this page which is basically "I am what I am" are so ridiculously apart its hilarious.
If he really doesnt understand why Messi is allowed to play like that and he isn't, well, not much to say really.
If he really doesnt understand why Messi is allowed to play like that and he isn't, well, not much to say really.
Ridiculous standards? Give me a break. Almost everyone on here wants him to succeed. Do you really think he has been good enough? If not then that is all.
There are no haters here. If he starts playing well next season you won’t see any “hate”. Like someone mentioned here he is running out of chances. If he doesn’t step up this season he definitely isn’t the player we thought him to be
He doesn't obviously. It's the usual "Me against the world" bullshit some players wrap themselves around. Anything you say to him that isn't sucking up to him is basically seen as the words of a hater. The relatives he 's talking about are the ones who are contributing to him deluding himself into thinking he 's better than what he is.
Who's talking about the forum?
Whether he is as good or not he has to prove it and so far he hasn’t. The odd great game or the fact that our poor team looks better with him in it does not prove that btw
Even outside the forum. A united record breaking signing and key player has not been performing close to the level we all thought for years. It’s not hate but just the truth
Yeah, was reading the article yesterday which talks about his home, relatives etc and it doesnt come across as an ideal environment at all. Can understand the cotton wooling given his past but you need people around you who'll push you to do better, not people who criticise the ones that push you.
He often gets criticised for things that have nothing to do with football. His standards on the pitch are not up to scratch. You won't get any arguments from me concerning that.
Not sure he has the intelligence, drive or maturity to ever be a top level player. Gives the impression he's not too fussed, he's super rich and seems to think he's made it already (a bit like Memphis Depay). Not sure we'll ever talk about him as one of the great midfielders of the game. If offered a swap deal for Sergej Milinkovic-Savic right now, would you take it?
I didn't have the chance to read it but I've seen enough interviews and shows of his home, his family and friends to have a little idea.
Those quotes, Jesus wept. Won't ever make it to the top with that mentality and he won't have anyone to blame by himself.
Not a mature attitude from Pogba. He should not point to other players to justify the critics he received.
Messi, Iniesta ? Pogba is so far far away to even compare his pledge with those 2.
Even with Kante. If we have Kante defensive play, even Matic or Mata can replace Pogba as ball passer.
To think yourself too high is one of sign of arrogant and mentally weak player. He should adapt all the tactics rather than blaming that he was not given his favorite positions, support and bla bla bla.
He is paid enormously to play football, so play well, and minimize the social media thing.
Messi, Iniesta ? Pogba is so far far away to even compare his pledge with those 2.
Even with Kante. If we have Kante defensive play, even Matic or Mata can replace Pogba as ball passer.
To think yourself too high is one of sign of arrogant and mentally weak player. He should adapt all the tactics rather than blaming that he was not given his favorite positions, support and bla bla bla.
He is paid enormously to play football, so play well, and minimize the social media thing.
It's more a case of has he progressed enough during his two seasons here?
I personally knew we were buying a player who drifted in and out of games but the hope was the older he got the less that would happen and tbf before his injury he was showing signs of having a very good season for us and once he returned and Sanchez was signed the form of everyone dipped
Like a lot next season really is make or break
His head does not seem to be in a good place at all, judging by those quotes. French fans love a scapegoat (especially a black one, from the banlieues) so this World Cup could turn him into even more damaged goods. I’m seriously starting to wonder if we might be better off moving on from the whole Pogba project.
Seems very defensive in that interview.
I'll probably be wrong but i think Pogba could have a great tournament. He thrives in the space he will likely get against the likes of Australia, Peru and Denmark. If France get their midfield settled and sorted early on he will have Kante+another cleaning up behind him and Mbappe, Dembele and Griezmann running ahead of him.
If he does have a great tournament then that's fantastic news for Manchester United. I wish I shared your confidence.
If media are to be believed (most of them hate him for whatever reasons), he's very close to losing his starting spot for France which would be a huge blow for his ego.
The quote about Messi
Who would be starting instead of him if that happens?
Btw. not sure how to read those quotes. Seems more like him being aware he is being seriously questioned both for the club and the country, so is being very defensive about it. And very contradictive at the same time, he admits he needs much to improve and then indicates he isn't judged by the same standards as other players.
Definitely not.
I've always felt sorry for Paul. No midfielder has ever been asked to be a perfect footballer more than he has.
Goals, assists, great defensive discipline, opening up defensives in the final third, dictating play.
I can see why he sometimes gets the hump. Its hard to "keep it simple" when he's asked to do so much.
Goals, assists, great defensive discipline, opening up defensives in the final third, dictating play.
I can see why he sometimes gets the hump. Its hard to "keep it simple" when he's asked to do so much.
Seriously, what kind of nonsense is that "especially a black one"? The last three players that have had problems with the majority are Giroud, Ribéry and Anelka. Don't bring skin color into the debate.
I never felt sorry as he sometimes sulks too much for my liking, but what you said is absolutely true. We bought him and then expected him to do absolutely everything. Control the tempo, box to box, be positionally disciplined and to decide games.
Need to find a more limited role, but the one in which he will excel. Hope Fred can also help.
I would give him next season at least with reinforcements coming in.
If he has a poor one I'd have no hesitation in selling after that.
If he has a poor one I'd have no hesitation in selling after that.
Personally think this is the conclusion Mourinho has reached as well and why Fred is the first one in and why he's allegedly earmarked Verratti as the marquee signing he wants to make. He virtually always picked a midfield 3 over the last couple of months of the season and also replaced Faria with McKenna who will apparently be running training sessions.
I think he's aware that the team and Pogba, among others, wasn't good enough or cohesive enough going forward and wants to address that with personnel and tactical tweaks. Next year is ultimately a major make or break year for Pogba, Mourinho and a bunch of players in the squad.
Corentin Tolisso from Bayern Munich has looked more energetic, incisive with his passing and focused than him. He is under serious threat tbh
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