[breakout67]

If Pogba had half as much desire and professionalism as Zidane, he could still become a world class player.

Comparing Pogba to Zidane at this stage is doing an injustice to one of the great players of all time.

Zidane at this stage in his career had just left Bordeaux for Juventus. In fact, I would say that Pogba at this current age is better than Zidane at the same age.

Zidane didn't really get going until his late twenties and had plenty of these performances when he was 24.

Someone already did an extensive comparison between the two and it was quite convincing. Zidane was a similar player to Pogba in that he needed other players to do fundamental things for him (ie Makelele and Figo). Zidane was doing all the aesthetic stuff on the ball, but when it came to supporting the team, other players did that.

 

[Inter Yer Nan]

I'm a Pogba fan and think he gets a little too much stick but today was appalling. He was beyond poor today. Might as well have played with 10 men.

 

[Sylar]

Was terrible today. Looked like he couldn't be arsed and couldn't complete simple passes (again trying to overdo it at times too)

I'd love to see training to see actually what goes on and what he's being taught

 

[Inter Yer Nan]

Zidane at this stage in his career had just left Bordeaux for Juventus. In fact, I would say that Pogba at this current age is better than Zidane at the same age.

Zidane didn't really get going until his late twenties and had plenty of these performances when he was 24.

Someone already did an extensive comparison between the two and it was quite convincing. Zidane was a similar player to Pogba in that he needed other players to do fundamental things for him (ie Makelele and Figo). Zidane was doing all the aesthetic stuff on the ball, but when it came to supporting the team, other players did that.

Yeah, Zidane had weeks, months of so-so form. He wasn't this consistent machine people want to remember but what I'll say though he always had an appetite for the big games though. You are right too about his coming into his own mid to late 20's however he wasn't an especially fast or strong player or the physical specimen that Pogba is. Pogba's type do tend to get into their peaks at a younger age. The next 12-24 months will determine if Pogba is going to be a truly great player. The talent is there he's just not put it together yet but time is on his side.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Genuinely wonder, is it the passing of his father (close to the one yr anniversary no?) or something else personal that's depressing him?

 

[Tapori]

Just looked completely off
3 key transitions and each time when the pressure was on he fecked up

Something isn't right.

 

[Aresma7]

That one pass over the sideline and the fact that we conceded two after he came on sums it up

 

[carvajal]

Maybe he's frustrated by the style of play, but he should not show it on the field.
I think he should be judged playing with another coach (if Mourinho does not continue)

 

[redflash]

Quick question why all hate towards pogba? He wasn' the problem tonight? And genuinely think he' been one of our est players this year.

He's not anywhere near consitent enough but has been brilliant in some games.

Big mistake tonight for me was leaving out mctominay for fellani.

I don' understand why so many now want pogba out?

 

[Minimalist]

Quick question why all hate towards pogba? He wasn' the problem tonight? And genuinely think he' been one of our est players this year.

He's not anywhere near consitent enough but has been brilliant in some games.

Big mistake tonight for me was leaving out mctominay for fellani.

I don' understand why so many now want pogba out?

You missing keys off your keyboard pal?

 

[breakout67]

Quick question why all hate towards pogba? He wasn' the problem tonight? And genuinely think he' been one of our est players this year.

He's not anywhere near consitent enough but has been brilliant in some games.

Big mistake tonight for me was leaving out mctominay for fellani.

I don' understand why so many now want pogba out?

To be honest, this has gone on long enough that there is a question to whether he is one of our best players. When a player does not put 100% on the pitch then it severely downgrades their performances for me.

De Gea, Valencia, Lingard, Lukaku, Martial, Matic all have a claim to be performing better this season. All of them had a dip in form, but continued to fight through this dip and came out of it with some seriously good performances.

Pogba's form is going from a dip to his consistent level. He's just made a 30 minute cameo and looked like he couldn't give a damn. He's not playing like a player that is invested in the club going forward.

 

[redflash]

You missing keys off your keyboard pal?

My phone!! Ffs

 

[Denis79]

Quick question why all hate towards pogba? He wasn' the problem tonight? And genuinely think he' been one of our est players this year.

He's not anywhere near consitent enough but has been brilliant in some games.

Big mistake tonight for me was leaving out mctominay for fellani.

I don' understand why so many now want pogba out?

He isn't on good terms with Mourinho, he's in a patch of bad form, his girlfriend left him, his favorite tv show got cancelled, there is no excuse for a player that almost cost 100M to walk out at Old Trafford in Champions League knock-out game and simply not give a shit because life isn't treating him the way he expects. In all honesty he can feck off and quickly please.

 

[redflash]

To be honest, this has gone on long enough that there is a question to whether he is one of our best players. When a player does not put 100% on the pitch then it severely downgrades their performances for me.

De Gea, Valencia, Lingard, Lukaku, Martial, Matic all have a claim to be performing better this season. All of them had a dip in form, but continued to fight through this dip and came out of it with some seriously good performances.

Pogba's form is going from a dip to his consistent level. He's just made a 30 minute cameo and looked like he couldn't give a damn. He's not playing like a player that is invested in the club going forward.

Sorry I just don't get it? I don't see how anyone can look at that performance tonight and single out one player? And to say he's not trying???? Not effective I'll give You...lethargic and slow agreed but I'd level that at 1-14 of out players tonight (maybe not lukaku).

He's also supposedly injured.

Smalling, fellani, young, Sanchez, matic, were all far worse in my opinion tonight.

 

[engulfing]

Maybe he's frustrated by the style of play, but he should not show it on the field.
I think he should be judged playing with another coach (if Mourinho does not continue)

Mourinho isn't leaving so pogba either wakes up or next summer he will be on the market. This summer is too soon but one more failed season and its time to replace him.

 

[Acole9]

I'm really starting to lose patience with him. £89 million? He ain't worth 89 quid let alone £89 million.

Disgraceful watching him tonight, kept giving the ball away and played like he couldn't give a damn, I'm disgusted.

The excuses are running out for him now, I didn't actually rate him when he left the first time, just strutted around like a chicken and acted like he owned the place.

 

[Enigma_87]

Sorry I just don't get it? I don't see how anyone can look at that performance tonight and single out one player? And to say he's not trying???? Not effective I'll give You...lethargic and slow agreed but I'd level that at 1-14 of out players tonight (maybe not lukaku).

He's also supposedly injured.

Smalling, fellani, young, Sanchez, matic, were all far worse in my opinion tonight.

Not a single player on the pitch was worse today than Pogba. Come to think of it not even the reserves that didn't get on.. At least they didn't do any damage. Shit on a stick, regardless of how you want to sugar coat it.

 

[Jaybomb]

I don’t want him sold. Cause what will that change?

I just wish he would bust a gut more. Drop all the silly nonsense and take football more seriously. All I want to see him doing is run around, ping a few passes, score a few long shots and put a few crunching tackles in. At 350k a week, I’m not asking for the fecking world am I?

At Juventus, he was one of the best midfielders in the world. At United, he’s all about his image because of the exposure Manchester United gives him.

 

[breakout67]

Sorry I just don't get it? I don't see how anyone can look at that performance tonight and single out one player? And to say he's not trying???? Not effective I'll give You...lethargic and slow agreed but I'd level that at 1-14 of out players tonight (maybe not lukaku).

He's also supposedly injured.

Smalling, fellani, young, Sanchez, matic, were all far worse in my opinion tonight.

I'm saying what I see on the pitch. Sanchez is having a mare, yet he is busting his bollocks off for the team. Lingard was the same, having a mare, but trying and trying. Lukaku was so fed up of the players behind him, that he decided to do stuff for himself and was quite good.

When Pogba came on, it was like playing with 10 men, because he did virtually nothing. When I look at a players performance I want two things. Off the ball work (pressing, running behind, moving between the lines, tracking runners etc.) and quality on the ball.

Pogba did not work off the ball and provided no quality with the ball. He was useless.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

He has been poor ever since that tottenham game, with only a few minutes of good play. Don't know what is wrong with him. Maybe that Sanchez is on bigger wages or something. Whatever it is, he deserves being dropped and work his way back into the team.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Pogba wasn't even trying tonight.

Everyone bar Lukaku was terrible but Pogba was a genuine embarrassment.

 

[Giggs86]

Honestly he can piss off in the summer with these half assed performances.

 

[ti vu]

He has been poor ever since that tottenham game, with only a few minutes of good play. Don't know what is wrong with him. Maybe that Sanchez is on bigger wages or something. Whatever it is, he deserves being dropped and work his way back into the team.

Not accurate. Burnley was the game when he noticeably started to look less and less energetic. That's weird because he himself was great against Stoke and with us having plenty of rest between games (than normal) and just be back from a Middle East trip, he should be refreshed than being burned out

 

[dirkey]

The midfield was bad all game. It was bad before he came on and it was bad when he was on. We could have easily conceded before pogba got on the pitch. It was just a bad game all around for the entire team with the exception of Lukaku and maybe bailey

They had a lot of the ball but no good chances until he came on. We completely gave up the midfield battle when he came on, and he didn't track the man for the all important first goal. So, while he didn't lose us the game, he certainly played a bigger part than most on it.

 

[tentan]

He doesn't want to be here and play for Mourinho, I wouldn't mind if he goes.

 

[Toddler]

Not good enough. But, I dont thinks all his fault. I mean look at Sanchez now, utterly useless when playing in this system. The root of the problems of our players lie somewhere else than in the players. Irritating.

 

[Giggs86]

Fergie was a good judge of character, he saw that about Pogba and that's why he let him go in the first place. He got all the talent in the world but mentally he's a bum.

 

[predator]

I love United, I live about 10 mins walk from OT - in Chorlton. Having said that I am also a massive football fan. I play it, i get a thill from watching beautiful and admirable football. I watched Pogba at Juve and he was limited for lots of the time but almost unplayable at other times. For us, as of this season tbf, he is limited and at other times awful.

It's a shame. I'd love nothing more than to see him excel at United, grab us 25 yard volleys, out manoeuvre some of Europe's best midfielders etc but he kooks dangerously alien lately.

Hopefully it'll all blow over and next season things will change.

 

[izec]

He was so bad today, unbelievable. Even a 12 year old kid in the crowd could have played better. That was appaling. Shame on you Paul, if you want out, then go this summer please. Absolute shambles.

There was an article last week that United would sell any player not getting behind Jose‘s philosophy/style. Think that could have been telling Pogba to up his game or leave

 

[Backrow Singer]

That one pass over the sideline and the fact that we conceded two after he came on sums it up

I think he has to be injured. He’s been releasing the ball as early as possible whether he should or not, he hasn’t been running at players which is his main strength. I think it was Newcastle where he took a knock and he hasn’t been the same since off memory. He doesnt look like he’s moving well to me.

Either way though something is clearly wrong and it needs fixing.

 

[deafepl]

I think he has to be injured. He’s been releasing the ball as early as possible whether he should or not, he hasn’t been running at players which is his main strength. I think it was Newcastle where he took a knock and he hasn’t been the same since off memory. He doesnt look like he’s moving well to me.

Either way though something is clearly wrong and it needs fixing.

Thought same, he's not same as he was before Basel Injury.

 

[Nipower888]

They had a lot of the ball but no good chances until he came on. We completely gave up the midfield battle when he came on, and he didn't track the man for the all important first goal. So, while he didn't lose us the game, he certainly played a bigger part than most on it.

He was a good 10 feet away like. Matic was closer and bailly and smalling were the ones who let the guy split them for the pass. With bailey not doing enough to stop the goal. Like how can you sit there and say its his fault when 3 players are closer and have more impact on stopping it. He wasnt gonna get there what do you expect from him. Hes not a player that can magically fly all over the pitch. They had plenty of chances but they were wasteful. They controlled the midfield from the get go. Bailey even made a last ditch tackle to stop one of them from scoring before pogba came on. Once they got a striker on they finally scored.

 

[Nipower888]

Fergie was a good judge of character, he saw that about Pogba and that's why he let him go in the first place. He got all the talent in the world but mentally he's a bum.

pogba left and Fergie didnt want him to leave how is that letting him go. You people need to stop with the fergie let him go nonsense because its been proven over and over thats a lie.

 

[Giggs86]

pogba left and Fergie didnt want him to leave how is that letting him go. You people need to stop with the fergie let him go nonsense because its been proven over and over thats a lie.

If Fergie didn't want him to leave he would've kept him, end of. He could've offered him a new contract or reassurances regarding first team selection. The fact that Fergie fancied Park/Gibson/O'Shea over him in midfield doesn't go hand in hand with the claim that he wanted to keep him.

 

[Nipower888]

If Fergie didn't want him to leave he would've kept him, end of. He could've offered him a new contract or reassurances regarding first team selection. The fact that Fergie fancied Park/Gibson/O'Shea over him in midfield doesn't go hand in hand with the claim that he wanted to keep him.

But they did offer him a new contract and he rejected it. I f i recall they convinced him to stay but it was too late so he went to juventus. Saying he wanted to keep him does go hand in hand with the claim that he wanted to keep him though.

 

[Giggs86]

But they did offer him a new contract and he rejected it. I f i recall they convinced him to stay but it was too late so he went to juventus. Saying he wanted to keep him does go hand in hand with the claim that he wanted to keep him though.

Saying is one thing, doing is another. Pogba wasn't Ronaldo that Fergie couldn't keep him if he really wanted to. IF Fergie really wanted him to stay, he would've kept him.

 

[Jngun]

It all started after Sanchez was bought and given 500k/w and those news stories leaked about how Pogba wasn't happy with that

That's really bad reaction from him then, if he wasn't happy, he should show that he deserve more than Sanchez by his performance on the field.
Nobody going to pay him more if he keeps performing like this. I think we would still be on level with Sevilla if he didn't replace Fellaini.

 

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Sometimes I wonder if Pogba will be another Zidane or another Paulo Henrique Ganso. I'm still optimistic about him, but every now and then he acts exactly like Ganso when he played for Santos, São Paulo and now for (sigh) Sevilla: lots of skill and flair, but walks on the pitch expecting that everyone bleed for him.

Well, time is on his side and football is a funny (and infuriating) thing. Maybe he turns out to be another kind of player, who knows.

 

[Nipower888]

Saying is one thing, doing is another. Pogba wasn't Ronaldo that Fergie couldn't keep him if he really wanted to. IF Fergie really wanted him to stay, he would've kept him.

That’s not a good argument for him wanting him to leave. He wanted to keep him made a decent effort to keep an 18 year old to the point the 18 year old wanted to stay and tried to stay but it was too late and he left.

 

[Harry190]

Sometimes I wonder if Pogba will be another Zidane or another Paulo Henrique Ganso.

He will never, ever be on the same level as Zidane. He doesn't have it in him on the football field.