Yeah, the way they put the headline in block capitals is really classy isn't it. They're clearly revelling in another person's despair.
Paul carries a lot of demons with him that he struggles with on a daily basis. He does well to cope as well as he does.
Incredibly harsh on Venables, actually quite am unpleasant statement you've made there.These are serious illnesses that Gascoigne suffers from. This idea that a football manager could cure or cause them is way off.
Gascoigne moved to London at the age of 21, an age when you need strong role models around you. It's not unpleasant to suggest a stronger role model might have helped him adjust and mature as a human being. By all accounts Venables favoured a light touch approach which might not have been the best for Gascoigne's long-term development.
Dont get that at all. Eating disorders and addiction aren't about maturing and adjusting.To say Terry Venables contributed towards one or more of his illnesses is wrong on many levels. He was his boss for a couple of years, Gazza's problems were already evident before the Spurs move. How does a football manager cure him of mental illness when highly trained, highly paid psychiatrist can't.
I don't want to get into an argument on this mate. We clearly have very different views on Venables' influence over Gascoigne's career, and the way a brilliant but fragile individual was handled. Let's just agree to disagree.
No argument from my point of view, just debate.
Yeah that's fair, probably better way of saying what I was trying to say. It could have been better, but still troubled. Alternatively, Gazza might have reacted poorly to Ferguson's authoritarian approach.
Said he was sober over a year recently.
Yep, it's hardly as if Fergie succeeded with everyone, like Ravel Morrison. Also had issues with Lee Sharpe. You can't fix everyone.
Actually probably everyone deserves blame for Gascoigne including himself.
Remember him especially well from Euro ’96.The same for me.
Don’t know what the trigger was but I think it’s pretty obvious that he suffers from alcoholism and seems to have severe mental issues. Was it ”just” the usual emptiness after retiring as a professional athlete? That’s all it often takes if you’re not surrounded by the right kind of people, getting support and having any plans for the future. Not saying Gazza didn’t have this. Looking at the photos it’s hard to believe he’s only 49.
He was in court a couple of weeks back about some comments he made in a live show - don't know the details. Presumably he didn't cope well in the run up to that and this is the aftermath.
What do you propose?
Best delete this post.
That is a truly evil thing to say.
Well aren't you the Samaritan...
I can fully appreciate that. I've suffered from addiction myself and know firsthand the pain it causes. Gazza has been offered far more help than your everyday man but seemingly doesn't want to help himself. He lost my sympathy a long time ago.
I think Gazza is a different type of drinker to Bestie. George Best drank all the time but kind of steadily, quite social with it. Gazza said himself that he has only been drunk for 18 months of his life, it is that he goes on really destructive severe binge drinking sessions when he does and seems to really lose it.
I'm sorry I came off so harsh and self-righteous, and I can understand your point of view, of course. Anyone with addicts in their family, or having fought addiction themselves, can understand that moment when you're just so, so beyond fed up with the lies, the negativity, the being pissed in the face at every turn, the feeling of pouring all your love and effort into a black hole.
As someone who has been battling addiction in the family for years, I am truly sorry but this doesn't make your comment any less inappropriate. You, of all people, should know it doesn't matter how much help an addict gets, it is still a disease with a cure that largely depends on willpower and hope, and only takes a gentle push in the wrong direction to destroy all the hard work and help. For someone like Gazza, especially, any amount of help is not enough. The Sun is a disgrace, how is this going to help any body?
Its a disease and if you truely did suffer from addiction you would understand this. Given that its a disease do you also lose sympathy for those who suffer from cancer after they have received a lot of help but relapse?
That's a fecking disgraceful comment.
Sorry, I know I'm late to the party here, but I always thought he was brilliant at Lazio? I'm also too young to have seen him play, but from what I've heard, after his injury, he was still brilliant for a few more years?
